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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #2296
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by CavsBasketballFan
    Back to the question at hand, who's a C the Cavs could move Waiters for if they got one of the SFs in FA like a Hayward or Parsons or even (yuck) Ariza. Don't forget they also have Sergei Karasev as a 2/3 option as well ,if they want to move Waiters, who is very highly thought of with the Cavs FO

    Is there even anything available that's an upgrade over Andy/Hawes? Idk many teams jumping to trade their starting Big for Waiters..

    Outside chance that maybe the Bucks would do something with Sanders, but you would have to take back Mayo and then add Andy or someone to balance the contracts. Idk


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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #2297
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by SteelersFreak
      LOL at paying Jodie Meeks that kind of money. Dude is trash.

      Man they start Singler at SG lol.. They had to.


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      • turty11
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        • Apr 2013
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        #2298
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        what about KCP?
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        • ojandpizza
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          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #2299
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by turty11
          what about KCP?

          KCP/Meeks - SG
          Smith/Singler - SF

          They desperately need to find someone who would trade for Smith.. If not a sign and trade with Monroe almost seems necessary.. Gotta move Smith to PF if he stays.


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          • Vni
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2011
            • 14833

            #2300
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Meeks isn't trash but wow.

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            • turty11
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              • Apr 2013
              • 8923

              #2301
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              well if kyrie is getting 18 a year, why not give meeks 6..
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              • CavsBasketballFan
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                • Jul 2014
                • 26

                #2302
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                Is there even anything available that's an upgrade over Andy/Hawes? Idk many teams jumping to trade their starting Big for Waiters..

                Outside chance that maybe the Bucks would do something with Sanders, but you would have to take back Mayo and then add Andy or someone to balance the contracts. Idk


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                Hawes is a FA and AV is hurt and getting older. Waiters has a lot more value then that, 16 PPG in only his 2nd year. he can probably hit 20-22 PPG with another year of experience, I don't think its unreasonable for him to make 2 more shots or 1 more shot and 2 more FTs for 20 PPG which puts him 10th in scoring for guards in the NBA, PG and SG combined. and that's only if he improves a minimal amount.

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #2303
                  2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by CavsBasketballFan
                  Hawes is a FA and AV is hurt and getting older. Waiters has a lot more value then that, 16 PPG in only his 2nd year. he can probably hit 20-22 PPG with another year of experience, I don't think its unreasonable for him to make 2 more shots or 1 more shot and 2 more FTs for 20 PPG which puts him 10th in scoring for guards in the NBA, PG and SG combined. and that's only if he improves a minimal amount.

                  I mean Waiters could be a leading scorer on a bad team, and a 2nd scorer on a good one. I'm not trying to put him down, I just don't think teams are willing to trade their starting big man for him..

                  Outside shot at Pekovic? Minny could probably use a better scoring threat, and Dieng looks like he could be their future starter.. If the lose Love I'm sure they'll be in some sort of rebuilding process anyways. Idk.


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                  • Sportsbuck
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                    • Jul 2006
                    • 4326

                    #2304
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

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                    • CavsBasketballFan
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 26

                      #2305
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by ojandpizza
                      I mean Waiters could be a leading scorer on a bad team, and a 2nd scorer on a good one. I'm not trying to put him down, I just don't think teams are willing to trade their starting big man for him..

                      Outside shot at Pekovic? Minny could probably use a better scoring threat, and Dieng looks like he could be their future starter.. If the lose Love in sure they'll be in some sort of rebuilding process anyways. Idk.


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                      starting Cs aren't as valueable as scoring guards IMO Howards what on his 3rd team in 5 years before he's even 30? Detroit didn't even make a solid attempt at keeping Monroe. Hawks let Josh Smith go, and are rumored to be willing to move Horford. how many young 20 PPG guards do you see getting let go and traded? I also don't think there are that many great centers in todays game at the moment either.

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                      • ojandpizza
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                        • Apr 2011
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                        #2306
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Man, if Bosh isn't going to take the big pay cut just do a sign and trade. I guess back to Toronto, Lowry and Patterson/Johnson, then sign Channing Frye and a rim protector. Maybe Carter/Marion/Stuckey/Hill/someone lol


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                        • CavsBasketballFan
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                          • Jul 2014
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                          #2307
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          Man, if Bosh isn't going to take the big pay cut just do a sign and trade. I guess back to Toronto, Lowry and Patterson/Johnson, then sign Channing Frye and a rim protector. Maybe Carter/Marion/Stuckey/Hill/someone lol


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                          Why does Bosh agree to a sign and trade and let Toronto get worse? this deal is likely to be the last one for him if its more then 4 years or so.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
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                            #2308
                            2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by CavsBasketballFan
                            starting Cs aren't as valueable as scoring guards IMO Howards what on his 3rd team in 5 years before he's even 30? Detroit didn't even make a solid attempt at keeping Monroe. Hawks let Josh Smith go, and are rumored to be willing to move Horford. how many young 20 PPG guards do you see getting let go and traded? I also don't think there are that many great centers in todays game at the moment either.

                            Howard forced himself out, idk how that's comparable.. Josh Smith is a PF/SF, Monroe is only expendable because Drummond is a stud.

                            Big men are the most overpaid players in the league for their production man. Roy, JaVale, Sanders, Asik, there is a reason teams over pay for them, it's easier to find a guy who can score than it is be a serviceable injury free big man.

                            Dragic, Thomas, Martin, Ellis, Crawford, Young, Klay, Afflalo, Beal, Wes, Hayward, Green, Waiters, Meeks, Johnson, Bradley, Smith.. All those guys have scoring comparable to and some better than Waiters.

                            It's just easy to take a talented player, give him more shots and let him score.


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                            Last edited by ojandpizza; 07-01-2014, 04:29 PM.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #2309
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              Man, if Bosh isn't going to take the big pay cut just do a sign and trade. I guess back to Toronto, Lowry and Patterson/Johnson, then sign Channing Frye and a rim protector. Maybe Carter/Marion/Stuckey/Hill/someone lol


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                              You really do not like Bosh, do you man? Lol
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                              • turty11
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                                • Apr 2013
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                                #2310
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                he said and a rim protector...had me goin vni, had me goin
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