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  • KentStinger
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    • Jul 2014
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    #2761
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Just some FWIW, the Clippers and Cavs are talking about S&T Hawes or Deng for Jamal Crawford.

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    • KentStinger
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      • Jul 2014
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      #2762
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
      There's better options than Melo and Pau landing in Chicago together with that core? I'm not talking about Pau replacing Taj. There's a scenario where they keep Taj and sign Pau to a two, three year deal at most. Pau is 34 man, ain't nobody looking at him for a long term plan. Come on 23


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      Where are the bulls going to get all this money from? your going to have to trade/amnesty boozer just to MAYBE have room to get Carmelo and thats if he wants to take a paycut.

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      • turty11
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        • Apr 2013
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        #2763
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        so by trading butler/gibson after signing melo the bulls CAN get love if they amnesty booz

        but they were saying on espn FA special that melo absolutely wants taj to be on the bulls, so they wont be getting melo and love.
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        • iLLosophy
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          • Sep 2005
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          #2764
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by turty11
          melo absolutely wants taj to be on the bulls, so they wont be getting melo and love.
          So if you simplify this equation using a few properties of algebra, what you actually end up with is this:

          melo absolutely does not want love.

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          • ojandpizza
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            • Apr 2011
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            #2765
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Butler only makes like what, $2 mil or so? So I'm guessing for their even to be an outside possibility they would have to trade Butler AND Taj?

            Love is great and all, but if your goal is to win now you don't ship out two starters and wind up with the worst bench in the league just to land him.

            Makes 100% more sense to me for them to just try and land Gasol after they get Melo. Worst case scenario is them maybe shipping off Dunleavy to have the cap room, that's far better than dumping half your core.


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            • turty11
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              • Apr 2013
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              #2766
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              i think the news of pau staying in LA with melo help the lakers a bit.

              also heard last night on nbatv that melo/kobes wives are good friends. and we all know the wife is gonna have some say in this. still think its chicago or NY, but id move LA to 3rd now over dallas but still very unlikely
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              • KentStinger
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                • Jul 2014
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                #2767
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                Butler only makes like what, $2 mil or so? So I'm guessing for their even to be an outside possibility they would have to trade Butler AND Taj?

                Love is great and all, but if your goal is to win now you don't ship out two starters and wind up with the worst bench in the league just to land him.

                Makes 100% more sense to me for them to just try and land Gasol after they get Melo. Worst case scenario is them maybe shipping off Dunleavy to have the cap room, that's far better than dumping half your core.


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                Again, where is Chicago getting the money for Melo and Gasol? they already have to dump boozer just to hope Melo takes a somewhat significant paycut (talking 5 mil range). if Gasol was going to take 6-8 Mil then why not just go play in Miami and have a better chance then Chicago to get a ring?

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                • JJJones135
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  #2768
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by KentStinger
                  Just some FWIW, the Clippers and Cavs are talking about S&T Hawes or Deng for Jamal Crawford.
                  I would take it for the sole purpose that they need a solid big on the bench. (Assuming Big baby isn't coming back.) I also think deng (praying he stays healthy) could provide a very good lock down defender that the clippers were missing last year.

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                  • turty11
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                    • Apr 2013
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                    #2769
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    because chicago with melo is better than miami...a pau/melo combo would likely see boozer sent to LA
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                    • KentStinger
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                      • Jul 2014
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                      #2770
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by turty11
                      because chicago with melo is better than miami...a pau/melo combo would likely see boozer sent to LA


                      No they aren't and its not even close.

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                      • turty11
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                        • Apr 2013
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                        #2771
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        cavs guy new account?

                        not even close.. smh

                        bulls doing the right things while miami is doing nothing, atleast that we know of
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                        • KentStinger
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                          • Jul 2014
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                          #2772
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by JJJones135
                          I would take it for the sole purpose that they need a solid big on the bench. (Assuming Big baby isn't coming back.) I also think deng (praying he stays healthy) could provide a very good lock down defender that the clippers were missing last year.
                          I don't see the Cavs moving both for Crawford, likely Deng because the Clips don't really have a great SF option IMO plus he does get them the defense they need like you mentioned. I think the Cavs really want to keep Hawes because he's a fit in their new system but he seems like he wants to go out west closer to home

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                          • JJJones135
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                            • Jan 2011
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                            #2773
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by turty11
                            i think the news of pau staying in LA with melo help the lakers a bit.

                            also heard last night on nbatv that melo/kobes wives are good friends. and we all know the wife is gonna have some say in this. still think its chicago or NY, but id move LA to 3rd now over dallas but still very unlikely
                            I just can't see those 2 playing together. It would be like the thunder offense where Kobe goes ISO one possession them Carmelo the next. A KD Westbrook combo is far better than a Kobe coming off injuries and Carmelo.

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                            • KentStinger
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                              • Jul 2014
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                              #2774
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by turty11
                              cavs guy new account?

                              not even close.. smh

                              bulls doing the right things while miami is doing nothing, atleast that we know of


                              You know Miami has seen 4 straight finals right? must be a bulls fan. Rose has missed 2 and a half years, the chances are he returns as good as he is, or even staying healthy at this point are pretty slim.


                              outside of Rose who do they have? Noah that's about to be 31 (or 30 IIRC) and an aging Gasol as your 2 and 3 options? Yeah that's not even close to Lebron-Bosh-Wade who still averaged 27-16-19 PPG plus they could add some solid bench defense pieces. Be realistic here.

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                              • JJJones135
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                                #2775
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Originally posted by KentStinger
                                I don't see the Cavs moving both for Crawford, likely Deng because the Clips don't really have a great SF option IMO plus he does get them the defense they need like you mentioned. I think the Cavs really want to keep Hawes because he's a fit in their new system but he seems like he wants to go out west closer to home
                                Right I was saying I would take it if I were the clippers. If I'm the cavs I don't mind giving up deng for Jamal but to lose a stretch 4 especially with David blatt coming In just isn't worth it. Unless they can sign Pau (highly unlikely tho)

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