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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #6406
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    This is who published that story. You sure you want to take that as gospel at this point?
    Yeah, I should probably go ahead and delete my account. Thanks for the laughs and stuff everyone.

    -deletes account, burns laptop and leaps out a window-
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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    • lilteapot
      MVP
      • Aug 2013
      • 4550

      #6407
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      That trade sounds dumb fo real.just keep what you have now Cleveland and see where it takes you next season.you may not even need love.

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #6408
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by Jimmy Waterhouse
        I gave you clear, indisputable evidence as to why he has not made the playoffs, pointing out how bad his teams have been. You've now TWICE said "other players have done more with less" without any evidence and unless you can clearly show me who has done more with less, you're talking out of your ***.

        You don't need to tell me anything on the Wiggins front; I've made my stance on that very clear and my argument with you has nothing to do with Wiggins or if they should trade Wiggins for Love (no they should not). This is about the unfair label Kevin Love has been given as a loser because he has never been placed in a position to win. Don't underestimate how important that is. How many teams succeed if they are not setup into position to succeed?

        Again, show me who has done more with LESS than K Love has and I will re-examine my stance, but until then your argument has zero merit.
        Even though the "talent" argument is all subjective anyway(You're going to knock down the talent he has played with while I build them up and on the flip side I'll knock down the talent of the guys I mentioned while you'll build them up), I'll play this game(I'll leave out Lebron because he is the exception and not the rule)just a few examples:

        Jason Kidd - Early 00s Nets
        Carmelo Anthony - Early 00s Nuggets
        Kobe Bryant - Mid 00s Lakers
        Chris Bosh - 2006 Raptors
        Dwyane Wade - 2009 Heat


        I'll say this in that the days of Elite guys being surrounded by complete bums(AKA Guys who have no business being in the league)don't happen much anymore today, or at least not like they used to. I mean even two of recent Twolves teams you mentioned, they were projected(barring injury obviously)to contend for one those 8 playoff spots in the West.

        Of course, injuries to some key players happened over the course of those seasons and then things went south from there, but it's not like he didn't have talent(unless either one of us has paid THAT much attention to their teams, which neither of us have outside of a few games) that wasn't good enough to even compete for the 8th spot in the West, which has always been the one spot up for grabs, save for 1 or 2 years.
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • Sgt_Carnage
          Banned
          • Feb 2014
          • 949

          #6409
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
          Dirk Nowitzki. See the majority of the 2000's

          EDIT: See also, Bryant, Kobe 2005, 2006
          You mean when Dirk was teaming with the likes of Steve Nash,Michael Finley,Antoine Walker,Antwan Jamison,Josh Howard,Jason Terry,Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Tyson Chandler?

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          • cabra1
            MVP
            • Dec 2013
            • 1055

            #6410
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by Sgt_Carnage
            You mean when Dirk was teaming with the likes of Steve Nash,Michael Finley,Antoine Walker,Antwan Jamison,Josh Howard,Jason Terry,Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Tyson Chandler?
            ?

            Checkout the latest Dallas Mavericks Roster and Stats for 2005-06 on Basketball-Reference.com


            That team won 60 games

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            • Sgt_Carnage
              Banned
              • Feb 2014
              • 949

              #6411
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by cabra1
              ?

              Checkout the latest Dallas Mavericks Roster and Stats for 2005-06 on Basketball-Reference.com


              That team won 60 games
              That was my response to someone claiming Dirk did more with less.

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #6412
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Don't the Rockets have cap space to sign A Max player still?

                They could sign Bledsoe . Not saying he deserves Max
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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #6413
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by mars5541
                  Don't the Rockets have cap space to sign A Max player still?

                  They could sign Bledsoe . Not saying he deserves Max

                  Do they after signing Ariza?


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                  • DJ_Solis
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 2216

                    #6414
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    Originally posted by mars5541
                    Don't the Rockets have cap space to sign A Max player still?

                    They could sign Bledsoe . Not saying he deserves Max

                    No, I don't think they have that much room.


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                    • MattUM
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1051

                      #6415
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Rockets are $5.1M under the cap.

                      They really ****ed up this offseason.
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                      • ERA
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1579

                        #6416
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        I can honestly see Bledsoe going to the Bucks or the Sixers. They both have the money, and I know they wouldn't hesitate using it..

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                        • cabra1
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1055

                          #6417
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by MattUM
                          Rockets are $5.1M under the cap.

                          They really ****ed up this offseason.
                          What was the reasoning behind them declining Parsons' team option again? Why wouldn't they just wait until next year to re up his deal?

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                          • SteelersFreak
                            All Star
                            • May 2004
                            • 9582

                            #6418
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by Sgt_Carnage
                            You mean when Dirk was teaming with the likes of Steve Nash,Michael Finley,Antoine Walker,Antwan Jamison,Josh Howard,Jason Terry,Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Tyson Chandler?

                            Lol you really included Antoine Walker though.

                            Nash and Finley are the only guys Dirk played with in their primes.
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                            • Sportsbuck
                              The Predator
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 4326

                              #6419
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by cabra1
                              What was the reasoning behind them declining Parsons' team option again? Why wouldn't they just wait until next year to re up his deal?
                              He would've been an unrestricted free agent next year, and by declining it, he stayed unrestricted and gave them the right to match any offer, and gave them a good window to do so.

                              Their gameplan was to leverage this by bringing in a 3rd star player (Bosh, Melo, etc.), sign them to a max deal, and then extend/match Parsons after that and go over the cap with his bid rights in order to do it.

                              It didn't work out for them, but I'm pretty confident Morey already has a few tricks left up his sleeve. Ariza has a pretty tradeable contract, and with the cap rising they'll have even more room to pursue another key player.
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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #6420
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                                Lol you really included Antoine Walker though.

                                Nash and Finley are the only guys Dirk played with in their primes.

                                Jamison was in his prime wasn't he?...I will never understand why that team didn't do better...

                                Not jumping in the convo...just wondering lol

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