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  • NYJets
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 18637

    #4606
    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by MattUM
    Yeah, Bron/Bosh/Wade all signed similar contracts. They were for 6/$110m while the absolute max have been about 6/$125m.

    That's a unique situation though, they all planned that and took the maxium amount that they could while still getting all 3 of them on the same team. It's a little different asking a guy to take less money with no guarantee of how that's going to help the team.
    Originally posted by Jay Bilas
    The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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    • slowdifference
      Pro
      • May 2012
      • 518

      #4607
      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

      DWade and Duncan are their own men. If they choose to take a paycut, alright by me. What angers me is when the media and fans acts as if a player wanting to get paid their worth makes them a bad teammate or greedy. They're not greedy, they're getting what they deserve before they're kick to the curb by the organization that's looking for the next super athletic 25 year old
      Am I trolling? Am I serious? Did Dennis Green and the Cardinals really "let them off the hook"? What about the children? Find out next week

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      • ZB9
        Hall Of Fame
        • Nov 2004
        • 18387

        #4608
        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

        Deron Williams at $5 mil a year? Sounds good!!

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        • MattUM
          MVP
          • Aug 2013
          • 1051

          #4609
          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

          Do we really think FOs aren't savvy enough to let the player know what they're going to do with the paycut money? Duncan takes a paycut, they sign Lamarcus Aldridge and David West. Dragic leaves money on the table, we resign Wade. Dirk takes a paycut, Mavs get Chandler Parsons and almost get He Who Will Not be Named. I have a hard time believing the FO doesn't lay out a plan for after the paycut.

          Then there's the guys who take pay cuts knowing they're going into a winning situation to chase a ring. A lot of these guys turn down lots of money to go to a better situation. If money were the motivator why did Ray Allen take $7m a year less to play with us? That's just one of the many examples

          What I can't support is taking a paycut because owners are cheap. F that
          Fan of:
          Miami Hurricanes
          Miami Heat
          Lebron James

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          • DieHardYankee26
            BING BONG
            • Feb 2008
            • 10178

            #4610
            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

            Bottom line is you shouldn't be telling people to take paycuts unless you go into your boss on Monday and cut your check to help the company.
            Originally posted by G Perico
            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #4611
              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

              I assume most of these players are smart enough to know not to take the FO at their word.
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • NYJets
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 18637

                #4612
                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by MattUM
                almost get He Who Will Not be Named. I have a hard time believing the FO doesn't lay out a plan for after the paycut.
                But they didn't, that's the point. Dirk leaves money on the table, and now he's on a team going nowhere. Way different situation than Lebron, Wade, and Bosh teaming up, or Ray Allen taking a paycut to join the best team in the NBA.
                Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #4613
                  Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                  According to Marc Stein, Joe is safe in Brooklyn since they found a way to get rid of Deron.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #4614
                    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                    DeAndre Jordan ‏@deandrejordan6 5m5 minutes ago
                    I am humbled by @DallasMavs & @MCuban kindness and understanding. I am sorry to have a change of heart.


                    DeAndre Jordan ‏@deandrejordan6 11m11 minutes ago
                    I want to publicly apologize to one of the best owners in the world @MCuban, the @DallasMavs and their fans.

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #4615
                      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                      Why are we even having this discussion though? I think we all agree that there's nothing wrong with a guy getting every dime they can, correct? I don't have a problem with it, the only issue I take is when a guy takes every dime he can and then starts bitching about the talent around him and forcing the front office into making stupid decisions to try to meet some sort of deadline to appease what that guy wants.

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                      • lilteapot
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 4550

                        #4616
                        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by RedSceptile
                        Taking a paycut is the least logical thing for a person to do. I don't care if you're making 20,000,000 or 20,000 money is money at the end of the day. We're taught since little to aim to bring home the big bucks. That's what some guys just aim for. LeBron is probably looking at getting according to speculation a 200 million dollar contract once the cap jumps happen. I don't blame him, good for him.
                        Lebron should ask for more if anything.

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                        • slowdifference
                          Pro
                          • May 2012
                          • 518

                          #4617
                          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          According to Marc Stein, Joe is safe in Brooklyn since they found a way to get rid of Deron.
                          I don't believe it
                          Am I trolling? Am I serious? Did Dennis Green and the Cardinals really "let them off the hook"? What about the children? Find out next week

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                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #4618
                            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by 23
                            DeAndre Jordan ‏@deandrejordan6 5m5 minutes ago
                            I am humbled by @DallasMavs & @MCuban kindness and understanding. I am sorry to have a change of heart.
                            "I am sorry to have a change of heart" sounds so sarcastic reading it.
                            Originally posted by G Perico
                            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #4619
                              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              I get what you're trying to say and to an extent, you're right. However the reason they can't GET paid and win at the same time is because of the salary cap. In order for the FO to "create that flexibility" somebody has to sacrifice somewhere or the player is going to have to show some patience.
                              Players can get paid and be patient at the same time.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #4620
                                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                Players can get paid and be patient at the same time.
                                They can, but when do they ever do that? Cause I haven't really seen any evidence of that recently.

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