2015 Offseason Thread

[z Revis]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

If it weren't for Roy's mental instability or whatever you want to call it he would be that 7'2 guy who had a good run in the league. He's had many good runs in his career, but can never sustain it. Dude goes from a 7'2 man to a 13 year old girl getting pushed around by Pero Antic in a blink of an eye.

[Vni]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

I believe one day we'll get a 7'2+ guy who has a good run in the league...

I was watching this show about tall people on Netflix and they said something about how any above 7'1 is a "condition" or something like that. They brought up Roy Hibbert and mentioned that even with his height, he's proportioned better than most of the guys you see his size. Guess it makes sense, he's clumsy as hell, but he runs the floor well and honestly doesn't get hurt that much....really a shame he can't be more dominant...

Maybe Porzingis. He looks good so far against LA.

[ojandpizza]

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I think GMs just need to get over it. Going back on verbal commitments is no different than a college player verbally committing somewhere and signing somewhere else last minute. It happens, people change their minds. Where you sign changes your life, it's not like it's something that isn't a big deal.

If you want to fix the problem stop waiting around to see what other teams do. Sign who you need to sign and move on. If you wait around on one guy and then miss out on him that's their fault, should have went with pieces who for sure wanted to be there rather than waist your time with someone on the fence.

I think DJ would have been a huge addition for them, and I'm not in the group that thinks he's only effective because of CP3.. With that said there are only a handful of players worth risking all your time and money during free agency and missing out on other pieces, and Jordan isn't one of them.


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[Boltman]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

I believe one day we'll get a 7'2+ guy who has a good run in the league...

I was watching this show about tall people on Netflix and they said something about how any above 7'1 is a "condition" or something like that. They brought up Roy Hibbert and mentioned that even with his height, he's proportioned better than most of the guys you see his size. Guess it makes sense, he's clumsy as hell, but he runs the floor well and honestly doesn't get hurt that much....really a shame he can't be more dominant...

What was that show called? I'm extremely interested in watching it.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

Who's fault is it for missing out? The team?

[ojandpizza]

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Who's fault is it for missing out? The team?

Any team or player that waits around for "the chips to fall" over one person signing, especially when that person isn't a LeBron, Durant level player.

Cuban should have at least made a deal to bring back Tyson. Even with signing DJ he could have went over to keep Tyson and been fine when the cap jumps. Now he has neither. It's his fault for investing everything into to one verbal agreement.


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[Boltman]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

No one's fault, I think the idiom of choice here would be "don't put all your eggs in one basket".

[The 24th Letter]

2015 Offseason Thread

What was that show called? I'm extremely interested in watching it.

Extreme Bodies-hopefully it's still on Netflix

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I could've swore Cuban said he didn't have an issue with memorandum in his last interview....thought his issue was more with Dre himself....

[NYJets]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

Any team or player that waits around for "the chips to fall" over one person signing, especially when that person isn't a LeBron, Durant level player.

Cuban should have at least made a deal to bring back Tyson. Even with signing DJ he could have went over to keep Tyson and been fine when the cap jumps. Now he has neither. It's his fault for investing everything into to one verbal agreement.


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How were they waiting around? Jordan agreed, as that was going on they made other moves. You can't just keep signing everbody.

Doubtful Chandler would have even wanted to go back to be a backup, nor would giving him the type of deal the Suns gave him be a smart idea, when nobody had any reason to believe Deandre Jordan wasn't coming.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

I just think Cuban is mad at something because he didn't get his way. He's talking like there were certain "dominos that fell" because of a verbal commitment when its technically his fault for making his moves knowing that a verbal commitment isn't set in stone.

Cavs are about to pay their back up big 80-90 million and he's not Tyson level defensively or offensively. I believe Dallas had his bird rights, they should have told him they would match anything he was offered. Unless of course he just wanted out, which might be the case.

I'm sure if another top name big man heard that Deandre backed out and decided to change their verbal agreement and head to Dallas that Cuban wouldn't be saying anything. He's just being a sore loser at this point. No player is going to agree to changing how it currently works and lose their bargaining power, any GM who has a problem with it just needs to get over it.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

No one's fault, I think the idiom of choice here would be "don't put all your eggs in one basket".

I can't think of a team that's done this other than the Knicks and that was 5 years ago.

[Majingir]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

We laugh at Vince McMahon demanding that his commentators tell certain stories but I think it is a SHAME that the Warriors D-League team won the D-League championship and it was not acknowledged by ABC. Not sure why this story wouldn't be pushed. Not to mention the Warriors won the Vegas Summer LEague last year as well. Just simple booking in my opinion to be honest. The NBA needs to push the D-League the same way the WWE has recently pushed NXT. Make it something that casual fans feel like they should seek out. It is your product @NBA .

D-League isn't supposed to outshine the NBA! D-League is basketball, NBA is sports entertainment lol. Accomplishments outside NBA mean NOTHING!


Seriously though, NBA does need to improve D-League alot. Make it much more important and improve quality alot as well.

MLB has their minor league system going real well for so long. Not exactly a minor league system,but CFL is second to the NFL in terms of football leagues,and it's real popular(at least in Canada obviously).

AHL is minor league system for NHL and it has strong interest and huge impact for NHL. That's what D-League needs to be for NBA. A league where they could test out potential rule changes in NBA, where we could see players called up from D-League throughout season and actually making an impact on main roster.

[NYJets]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

I just think Cuban is mad at something because he didn't get his way. He's talking like there were certain "dominos that fell" because of a verbal commitment when its technically his fault for making his moves knowing that a verbal commitment isn't set in stone.

That's how every team operates, that's how you have to operate.

Not saying they necessarily have to change any rules. To me it's more just "**** happens, tough break for the Mavs." But I don't see at all how it's their fault or they can be blamed.

[ojandpizza]

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That's how every team operates, that's how you have to operate.

Not saying they necessarily have to change any rules. To me it's more just "**** happens, tough break for the Mavs." But I don't see at all how it's their fault or they can be blamed.

I agree with that, I don't really feel like anyone is to blame it's just a bad break for them.

But he's trying to point to a fault in the system when technically it is his fault. Nobody forced him to make signings based on that, nobody forced him to even try and sign Jordan in the first place. Not trying to say he shouldn't have, it's just silly for him to go and complain about it after he lost out.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

1. Mentioning the Cavs paying Thompson $80-90 Mil is nowhere near the same because seeing as how tight he is with Lebron and that Lebron wants the team to pay him, they have no other choice but to pay him.

2. The funny thing is Cuban isn't even blaming the system like 24 said, nor is he bitter. It's the OTHER Owners and Executives who choose to remain anonymous(as usual)that have an issue with this, hence Silver making those comments.