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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #16
    Re: GM Role Play Thread

    Originally posted by Kovalev
    Theres nothing that says Bosh was more important, sorry
    There's nothing that says Love is important right now at all. This series against the Hawks and then the NBA Finals if they make it will be very telling. They did just fine against Chicago without him.

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    • Cavsfan4life
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 1039

      #17
      Re: GM Role Play Thread

      Love can shoot 3s, therefore he is a stretch four? Am I doing this right? Honestly, is there another player in this league with a similar skillset?(Just realized started this off with 3 questions) Simply put you resign Love at the max and be done with it. Unlike when Miami built their big 3, we still have picks, young talent, and the Haywood contract. We are not far off depth wise, just need a wing and PG and we will be set, injuries being the only hurdle(and MMA fighters)

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      • Kovalev
        Banned
        • May 2015
        • 59

        #18
        Re: GM Role Play Thread

        Originally posted by cima
        There's nothing that says Love is important right now at all. This series against the Hawks and then the NBA Finals if they make it will be very telling. They did just fine against Chicago without him.
        Theres alot that says he is, rebounds, shooting, passing, scoring threat, etc, etc . Good thing it doesn't really matter if you agree or not, all the signs point to the Cavs wanting Love around long term.

        Last i checked the Bulls beat the Cavs twice, and the Cavs needed a Miracle Lebron 3 to win game 4. with Love i dont see how the Bulls win a game.
        Last edited by Kovalev; 05-17-2015, 12:57 AM.

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        • Kovalev
          Banned
          • May 2015
          • 59

          #19
          Re: GM Role Play Thread

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          But there is tons that says Love has been? I'd love to find someone else who agrees with that logic.


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          their Career numbers for starters, stats dont lie and Love has been far more impressive. its a shame Love gets hated on for being a white basketball player.

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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #20
            Re: GM Role Play Thread

            Originally posted by Kovalev
            Theres alot that says he is, rebounds, shooting, passing, scoring threat, etc, etc . Good thing it doesn't really matter if you agree or not, all the signs point to the Cavs wanting Love around long term. you'll learn to deal with it.
            I don't have a problem with it, I originally stated that they will keep him. I just don't necessarily agree to pay him max money for his role. You yourself even said "the Cavs also dont need love for Defense, they need him to be a spread 4, a scoring F/C which he is the perfect fit with AV/Mozzy/Thompson"

            If that's the case, why not just trade him to NO for Ryan Anderson? Thompson already has the rebounding and defense part covered.

            And not that it really matters but I was on the Wiggins train, I didn't want him traded once LeBron decided to come back. However I think it worked out because they likely wouldn't have Shumpert and Smith if they still had Wiggins so it's worked out well for them.

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            • ojandpizza
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              • Apr 2011
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              #21
              Re: GM Role Play Thread

              Originally posted by Kovalev
              Theres alot that says he is, rebounds, shooting, passing, scoring threat, etc, etc . Good thing it doesn't really matter if you agree or not, all the signs point to the Cavs wanting Love around long term. you'll learn to deal with it.

              The ENTIRE heat game plan was built around Bosh and LeBron's ability to switch and hedge on to any player in the league. It let them play small ball, let them have their "swarming" defense, and gave LeBron complete isolation on the post offensively..

              Yes Love gets rebounds, but his impact on this team THIS YEAR is a lot smaller than the overall impact Chris Bosh had on Miami. If you seriously don't realize that you should stop staring at your stat sheets and watch some games my friend.

              With that being said "learn to deal with it"??? What the **** is that about.. Nobody here is mad that they might resign Love, I'm sure every Cav's fan would love for them to resign Love.. Not sure what you are getting at..

              We just aren't naive enough to actually believe they can't replace his production if he does decide he wants to take his talents elsewhere.


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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
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                #22
                Re: GM Role Play Thread

                Originally posted by Kovalev
                Last i checked the Bulls beat the Cavs twice, and the Cavs needed a Miracle Lebron 3 to win game 4. with Love i dont see how the Bulls win a game.
                So what? The Bulls needed a miracle to win game 3 and the Cavs dominated them in games 2 and 6. In the end the Cavs still won the series, without Love.

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #23
                  Re: GM Role Play Thread

                  Originally posted by Kovalev
                  their Career numbers for starters, stats dont lie and Love has been far more impressive. its a shame Love gets hated on for being a white basketball player.

                  I'm white.. That's why I hate Kevin Love??

                  I love Kevin Love, but numbers aren't the whole story, and your comparing his career numbers to Bosh's, even though Bosh spent 4 years as a 3rd option?? That's clearly accurate [emoji23][emoji23]

                  What about Love's defense compared to Bosh's? How do you explain that landslide


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                  • Kovalev
                    Banned
                    • May 2015
                    • 59

                    #24
                    Re: GM Role Play Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    I'm not saying Wiggins over Love.. I'm saying Wiggins plus the cap to sign 3 other guys over Love..

                    They wouldn't have the Cap to sign 3 other players, how hard is this for you to understand? Play 2K too much and think the NBA just hits the turn off cap space button or something?

                    It doesn't matter because the trade already happened anyways.

                    The problem is half the damn league can give you 20 points a night, and the Cavs rebound great without Love anyways. They just out rebounded a strong rebounding team in Chicago without Love. They were one of the best rebounding teams in the East last year without Love and LeBron. Thompson averages more rebounds per 36 than Love does, and he defends better, and gives them more possessions from his offensive boards..

                    the Problem is thats yet another lie of yours. Quick name all the players in the league who can put up 26-12 as the first option on their team, AAAAANNNND GO.

                    Kevin Love is a great player. He's a HOF guy, he's an All-Star in today's league.. But the Cavs pay him that much money to stand in the corner right now.. And they don't lack in rebounding..

                    It's a little late now, because they've already built their team around Love.. Adding shooting guard defense and a rim protector because starting Kyrie and Love was hurting them.. But hypothetically they could have kept Wiggins and had money to sign like Ryand Anderson, DeAndre Jordan, etc..

                    Good thing they built around Love, sounds like the smart choice over having Wiggins, Anderson and Jordan. Much better chance to win titles.

                    Next years line up, Kyrie, Wiggins, Bron, Thompson, Jordan, stretch four Anderson off the bench..

                    What an ugly and terrible offensive team that would be, they would need to stop teams from scoring 80 points.


                    That's a lot of money for one guy when you aren't even letting him be "that guy" he was in Minny. Blatt hasn't figured out a way to utilized him to his full strengths. If he stays that's great they've built this team around him being a part of it, if he leaves they definitely aren't doomed.. They can snag 2-3 guys and more than fill his void.


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                    but they dont NEED him to be that guy, they need him to be what he is doing in Cleveland, and those guys dont just grow on tree's.

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #25
                      Re: GM Role Play Thread

                      They need to pay him 20mil to stand in the corner and shoot 3's. Ok then


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                      • Kovalev
                        Banned
                        • May 2015
                        • 59

                        #26
                        Re: GM Role Play Thread

                        Originally posted by cima
                        I don't have a problem with it, I originally stated that they will keep him. I just don't necessarily agree to pay him max money for his role. You yourself even said "the Cavs also dont need love for Defense, they need him to be a spread 4, a scoring F/C which he is the perfect fit with AV/Mozzy/Thompson"

                        but you very very clearly have a problem with it, look how upset you are getting in this thread about the idea of them keeping him and making ridiculous assumptions.

                        If that's the case, why not just trade him to NO for Ryan Anderson? Thompson already has the rebounding and defense part covered.

                        Because Ryan Anderson can't put up 10+ Rebounds any given night like Love? you also cant play Anderson and Thompson at the same time unless your benching Mozgov and Varajeo and you still have to cover for Andersons worse than Love's defense. Anderson is maybe 1/10th as valueable as love.

                        And not that it really matters but I was on the Wiggins train, I didn't want him traded once LeBron decided to come back. However I think it worked out because they likely wouldn't have Shumpert and Smith if they still had Wiggins so it's worked out well for them.
                        i dont know why Wiggins would have stopped them from getting them. they both would be getting PT over Wiggins and that deal was also part of a deal to get Mozgov.

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                        • Kovalev
                          Banned
                          • May 2015
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                          #27
                          Re: GM Role Play Thread

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          The ENTIRE heat game plan was built around Bosh and LeBron's ability to switch and hedge on to any player in the league. It let them play small ball, let them have their "swarming" defense, and gave LeBron complete isolation on the post offensively..

                          Wrong. the game plan was built around Lebron, Bosh didnt matter.

                          Yes Love gets rebounds, but his impact on this team THIS YEAR is a lot smaller than the overall impact Chris Bosh had on Miami. If you seriously don't realize that you should stop staring at your stat sheets and watch some games my friend.

                          Nope, total lie. and the stats are productions of the games, what do you think Stats just appear out of thin air?

                          With that being said "learn to deal with it"??? What the **** is that about.. Nobody here is mad that they might resign Love, I'm sure every Cav's fan would love for them to resign Love.. Not sure what you are getting at..

                          Yes people are very mad that Love will be a Cav, thats very evident in this thread. Why are so many people against it if they aren't mad?

                          We just aren't naive enough to actually believe they can't replace his production if he does decide he wants to take his talents elsewhere.


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                          Whats Naive is thinking Ryan Anderson can replace Kevin Love, im not Naive im just the only one here who knows anything about basketball, surrounded by people who just want to troll.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #28
                            Re: GM Role Play Thread

                            It's not about putting up 26 and 12 as a first option because he will never be a first option on this team. It's about complimenting LeBron and Kyrie because the ball is in their hands 90% of the time.



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                            • Kovalev
                              Banned
                              • May 2015
                              • 59

                              #29
                              Re: GM Role Play Thread

                              Originally posted by cima
                              So what? The Bulls needed a miracle to win game 3 and the Cavs dominated them in games 2 and 6. In the end the Cavs still won the series, without Love.
                              and the Cavs got bitch slapped in game 1, with Love the Bulls dont even win a game. its not that hard to figure out really.

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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
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                                #30
                                Re: GM Role Play Thread

                                Originally posted by Kovalev
                                Whats Naive is thinking Ryan Anderson can replace Kevin Love, im not Naive im just the only one here who knows anything about basketball, surrounded by people who just want to troll.

                                Nobody said Ryan Anderson would replace Kevin Love..


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