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  • Justin7
    Pro
    • Oct 2014
    • 533

    #3301
    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    That is a ****ty idea, no offense.
    None taken lol, I have no idea how to help smaller market teams to have a fair shot at a star. Or to spread the stars around the league and to make it so they ain't all on the same team.

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    • Vni
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2011
      • 14833

      #3302
      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

      ESPN sources say Dallas and unrestricted free agent-to-be Harrison Barnes have struck a verbal agreement on a four-year, $94 million deal

      Is this old ?

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #3303
        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Vni
        ESPN sources say Dallas and unrestricted free agent-to-be Harrison Barnes have struck a verbal agreement on a four-year, $94 million deal

        Is this old ?
        they offered it to him first and now he has officially agreed, especially since KD committed

        Rmember GS has 3 days to match but they won't

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #3304
          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by 23
          they offered it to him first and now he has officially agreed, especially since KD committed

          Rmember GS has 3 days to match but they won't

          Must have been a tough choice between Barnes and Durant for Golden State.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #3305
            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by Vni
            Must have been a tough choice between Barnes and Durant for Golden State.
            Haha, as hard as it would be for me to fire doc riversnif i owned the clippers

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #3306
              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by Justin7
              None taken lol, I have no idea how to help smaller market teams to have a fair shot at a star. Or to spread the stars around the league and to make it so they ain't all on the same team.

              Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
              Funny thing is the current CBA actually gives an advantage to the player's original team by giving them that 5th year and extra $30 Mil that other teams can't offer unless they wait 2 years. And we're at a point where players aren't afraid to pass up that extra year and money.

              If a player wants to win and has a great opportunity to join a winner, there's not really anything you can do to prevent them from leaving.
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 13478

                #3307
                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                Here's the rub: parity isn't *actually* what people want in the NBA. The league has always been at it's peak when there were juggernauts.

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                The salary cap and the salary cap floor just create all these inflated or artificial numbers that cause more problems than doing good. Kobe said it best years ago:

                “It’s the popular thing to do,” Bryant told reporters. “The player takes less, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it’s a big coup for the owners to put players in situations where public perception puts pressure on them to take less money. Because if you don’t, then you get criticized for it.”
                Players should NEVER be forced into taking hometown discounts for the sake of the team. Guys like TD and Dirk did it, but why shouldn't they have been able to make the amount of $ they were actually worth all of these years? Because the flawed system forces them into choosing between $$ and winning, and like Kobe said, if you look out for yourself, you're scrutinized, when it reality, that's what the owners are doing for themselves.

                The Spurs are far and away the best example of how to build a franchise. They drafted all of their players that netted them their 5 championships. They were able to keep the team together because guys made financial sacrifices to stay together in a SMALL MARKET. In theory with no salary cap, the Spurs could've still stayed together but the players could've made $ they're actually worth. Clearly them being a small market isn't an issue.

                You can still have a strict set of rules with no salary cap; you can still have the rule where the team with your bird rights or whatever can sign you to a 5 year contract and all other teams only can sign you for 4. You can still have an extremely high luxury tax if the Knicks or Lakers want to try and Yankee the league.

                Do I expect the salary cap to be gone in the new CBA? No. It will probably be discussed though. Two years ago Cuban said in the last negotiations that getting rid of max contracts and guaranteed $ was on the table and will likely be re-visited again next year. It's going to be interesting to see it all play out.

                I just always get a kick out of people that are against a no-salary cap and point to MLB as the reason why. Ummm MLB arguably has the most parity of the 3 leagues and the Yankees have proven that having all the $ in the world and buying a team doesn't automatically equate to winning titles.

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                • dsallupinyaarea
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2764

                  #3308
                  re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  None taken lol, I have no idea how to help smaller market teams to have a fair shot at a star. Or to spread the stars around the league and to make it so they ain't all on the same team.

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                  Define fair shot. They had their draft picks, they got their stars, they gave it a run for 5-6 years and it didn't work out. **** happens. Hell, they still have a star left which is more than most teams can say. What more do you want?

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                  • areobee401
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 16771

                    #3309
                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Justin7
                    None taken lol, I have no idea how to help smaller market teams to have a fair shot at a star. Or to spread the stars around the league and to make it so they ain't all on the same team.

                    Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
                    You know what made OKC so good all these years? Homegrown talent built through the draft and player development.

                    You know what made KD to GSW possible? Homegrown talent built through the draft and player development.

                    Identify and development talent properly and the doors to proven All-Star caliber FA's wanting to join your team will open.
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                    • cima
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 13478

                      #3310
                      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by areobee401
                      You know what made KD to GSW possible? An inflated salary cap and sheer luck.
                      Fixed that for you

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                      • J_Posse
                        Greatness Personified
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11255

                        #3311
                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by 23
                        Dallas is sending a future second-round pick to Golden State for Andrew Bogut, league sources tell The Vertical.
                        I hate Mark Cuban so much. Why the **** is he helping them shed salary to sign Durant? Just keep Zaza Pachulia and Salah Mejri while improving other areas of the roster.

                        Why waste cap space and a roster spot on a declining and injury prone big man to help a conference rival facilitate a huge signing?

                        ****ing Mark Cuban, man.

                        from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ
                        Last edited by J_Posse; 07-04-2016, 04:31 PM.
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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #3312
                          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by areobee401
                          You know what made OKC so good all these years? Homegrown talent built through the draft and player development.

                          You know what made KD to GSW possible? Homegrown talent built through the draft and player development.

                          Identify and development talent properly and the doors to proven All-Star caliber FA's wanting to join your team will open.
                          Oh so if you trade that talent errtime you have to pay them then you can't win?

                          Ok i see you

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #3313
                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by J_Posse
                            I hate Mark Cuban so much. Why the **** is he helping the shed salary to sign Durant? Just keep Zaza Pachulia and Salah Mejri while improving other areas of the roster.

                            Why waste capspace and a roster spot on a declining and injury prone big man to help a conference rival facilitate a trade?

                            ****ing Mark Cuban, man.

                            from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ
                            Because he voted not to move from seattle and they did it anyway

                            Look man Cuban is desperate.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #3314
                              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by cima
                              Striking a balance between player fairness and league parity is tough, but as far as league parity goes, I'd argue the NBA is far and away the worst of the 3.
                              Let's be real: When it comes to the subject of parity, fans don't know what they want.

                              We say we want different teams but then will complain about the lack of stars(And yes I know this is an NBA Marketing issue before the usuals bring that up).

                              So when fans say they want parity, I always call bull**** because that's not what they really want.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • J_Posse
                                Greatness Personified
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 11255

                                #3315
                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by 23
                                Because he voted not to move from seattle and they did it anyway

                                Look man Cuban is desperate.
                                I hated that move as much as anyone, but helping form super teams is just as bad, IMO.

                                Whatever, the best of luck to those dudes in GS. Hopefully the Spurs can find another wing player so I don't have to see Kyle Anderson on the court.

                                Other crazy part with Spurs, Ginobili may not return if the Spurs can't fork over more than the room exception (which was like $2.9 million last season) to offer him. I love Manu, but if Timmy is calling it quits I can't see them paying Manu more than an exception to return. He's old, fragile and will only breakdown further.

                                I can't believe I'm typing this nonsense....

                                from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ
                                Last edited by J_Posse; 07-04-2016, 04:38 PM.
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