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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #841
    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by redsox4evur
    Too bad they can't get Conley though. As they don't have any cap space and he is a FA.


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    That's why I said trade. Sign + trade would work.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #842
      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

      I'm still a fan of Kyrie, but has he always been this bad of a distributor? Or is it a product of his environment?

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #843
        2016 Offseason Thread

        His AST% has gone down each year he's been in the league from 36% to currently 26%(was at 25% last year).
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #844
          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          I'm still a fan of Kyrie, but has he always been this bad of a distributor? Or is it a product of his environment?


          I think he likely never wanted LeBron to be there and the team not be his honestly.

          And I think LeBron is actually pushing for him to be more "the guy", but Kyrie right now doesn't have the instincts to do that. It just leads to bad shots, lack of movement, all to go along with some average-ish defense.

          I think he tries to hard to be a scorer at times. Far too often it looks like he's used a full quarters worth of energy on just two trips up the court, I can't see that ever being effective.

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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #845
            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            His AST% has gone down each year he's been in the league from 36% to currently 26%(was at 25% last year).
            The bigger drop from once LeBron arrived is expected though since he's the primary assist man.

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #846
              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by ojandpizza
              I think he likely never wanted LeBron to be there and the team not be his honestly.

              And I think LeBron is actually pushing for him to be more "the guy", but Kyrie right now doesn't have the instincts to do that. It just leads to bad shots, lack of movement, all to go along with some average-ish defense.

              I think he tries to hard to be a scorer at times. Far too often it looks like he's used a full quarters worth of energy on just two trips up the court, I can't see that ever being effective.
              As much as we get on Westbrook he has some pet plays he can get to and can make quick reads off the dribble...you just don't see that wi th Kyrie....

              It could very well be the situation he's in, maybe it hurt his growth in that dept...but dude can barely make an entry pass..even when he's in a lineup surrounded by shooting by himself he's not playing the distributor role...

              He's waaaaay too talented man, jusy want to see him grow, even if that means leaving

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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47651

                #847
                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                Apparently Knicks and Nets both trying real hard to get a 1st round pick.

                Too bad Knicks won't ever trade with Ujiri again. Knowing Ujiri, he'd probably find some way to get Porzingis out of NY for the 9th,27th,Wright and Ross.

                Only person from Nets I'd really want would be RHJ. And don't think they'd deal him away in any kind of deal where the main return is something like a late 1st and/or Wright.


                Just wanted some unbiased opinions from people here, what kind of F do people think could be had if the return is the 9th pick in this years draft + Delon Wright(20th pick last year,3rd highest WS/48 among qualified rookies) + Terrence Ross.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #848
                  re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by Majingir
                  Apparently Knicks and Nets both trying real hard to get a 1st round pick.

                  Too bad Knicks won't ever trade with Ujiri again. Knowing Ujiri, he'd probably find some way to get Porzingis out of NY for the 9th,27th,Wright and Ross.

                  Only person from Nets I'd really want would be RHJ. And don't think they'd deal him away in any kind of deal where the main return is something like a late 1st and/or Wright.


                  Just wanted some unbiased opinions from people here, what kind of F do people think could be had if the return is the 9th pick in this years draft + Delon Wright(20th pick last year,3rd highest WS/48 among qualified rookies) + Terrence Ross.
                  LOL no he wouldn't.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #849
                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    Where'd you hear the Nets were trying real hard to get a 1st round pick from?

                    Last update I heard from that was they were trying to get another 2nd and that was around 9pm today.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47651

                      #850
                      re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Where'd you hear the Nets were trying real hard to get a 1st round pick from?

                      Last update I heard from that was they were trying to get another 2nd and that was around 9pm today.


                      It doesn't flat out say 1st round pick, but how many teams, especially weeks before the draft, try to aggressively acquire at least one 2nd round pick? You'd just have to think it'd be a 1st.

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #851
                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                        How many teams never have any draft picks though? Lol

                        But that doesn't mean he's looking for a 1st. Could very easily be looking for a high 2nd(which is what I've heard from other writers who follow the Nets)which isn't much different than a late 1st rd pick anyway considering the talent that's available at that point.
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #852
                          re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by Majingir
                          https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/s...98307193450496

                          It doesn't flat out say 1st round pick, but how many teams, especially weeks before the draft, try to aggressively acquire at least one 2nd round pick? You'd just have to think it'd be a 1st.
                          They are trying to land second round picks.
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                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #853
                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            Yeah, cant speak for the Nets although I'd assume they're the same, the Knicks have been working guys out and trying to get into the second round for a little while now.
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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #854
                              re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                              The Knicks are pursuing a 2nd rounder, all the guys they've been working out are second round projections.
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #855
                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                Of course...

                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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