Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?

[ojandpizza]

Re: Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?

I didn't say you introduced the Lebron talk, I said you were leading the charge... which is what you've been doing more and more lately. It's like his name is a bat signal for you, lol. YOU'VE been here long enough (and expressed your opinion on the topic enough) to say to yourself "another LBJ vs MJ comparison, lets just keep it moving" but you can't help yourself. And unfortunately, your posts are venturing farther away from giving Lebron his props while still allowing Jordan his separately. They're now reduced to "I think MJ is the GOAT... BUT" followed by explaining how great Lebron is, how unfair it is that people don't even give him a chance at reaching GOAT at some point, etc, etc, etc.

And yeah, all that crap you said about Jordan is ridiculous, lol. You mention what happens outside of OS... so why start a back and forth on OS as if you're talking to those people if you realize it's different here? In the same sense, why grab a quote from an article you think is trash. The quote being in that article alone makes it lose credibility. Things like this are why King is saying you do everything you can to pump up LBJ.

Can anyone actually give at least one decent reason why I can't have the opinion that I think his name has grown over the years? Other than just saying over and over again that I'm wrong and whatever I post is wrong, and whatever example I give is wrong and pointless?

I mean if you want to change my mind then actually attempt to change my mind, otherwise why tell my I'm off base over and over again with nothing constructive to say?

[ojandpizza]

Re: Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?

That dude is lost. Only thing I can think of man.

"Jordan's legend got bigger AFTER he retired". Maybe in small town Arkansas, that's probably what ya'll believe. And if that's the case, then you need to leave and enter the real world, lol.


There you go still being naive again.

So now it's because I live in Arkansas lmao.. Right, I live in this sheltered environment that is disconnected from the real world and i'm clueless. Thanks.

[wwharton]

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Can anyone actually give at least one decent reason why I can't have the opinion that I think his name has grown over the years? Other than just saying over and over again that I'm wrong and whatever I post is wrong, and whatever example I give is wrong and pointless?

I mean if you want to change my mind then actually attempt to change my mind, otherwise why tell my I'm off base over and over again with nothing constructive to say?

For the record, I "let you slide" on it lol.

But seriously, you've already been given reason. At his peak he was arguably the most famous human being on the planet. His name couldn't have possibly grown... maybe stay at the same level, but that's even not true. He's still very, very, very popular/well known... but still not like when he was playing for the Bulls.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I think if people weren't alive or old enough to be "aware" during that time then they will never really know what it was like. You had little old ladies living back in the Boondocks who didn't know a thing about basketball knowing the name Michael Jordan. He was ****ing everywhere. I have a whole tub of MJ junk - the dude had his own pogs, numerous special edition card sets, Starting Lineups, not to mention all the clothing and his endorsements. Plus, there's Space Jam. The man was everywhere every ****ing day while he was playing. Even in this high powered, easy access to the internet and digital social networks I don't think anyone compares to that. MJ reached every square footage of the planet in his prime - and he did it every day.

OJ (honestly man, how many phones do you go through with all that texting?) sounds like he's trying argue about the tenure of MJ's legacy more than anything.

To me this would be about the same as arguing the Beatles are bigger today than they were in their prime. It just doesn't make sense.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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So now it's because I live in Arkansas lmao.. Right, I live in this sheltered environment that is disconnected from the real world and i'm clueless. Thanks.

Nah, just naive is all.

All good though.

[ojandpizza]

Re: Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?

MJ's legacy more than anything.
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Exactly that. I'm not arguing that he's more popular today than when he was playing. That wouldn't even make sense.

I'm saying the gap between his legacy as a basketball player is larger in comparisons to other players, and seems to keep growing every year.





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[ojandpizza]

Re: Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?

For the record, I "let you slide" on it lol.



But seriously, you've already been given reason. At his peak he was arguably the most famous human being on the planet. His name couldn't have possibly grown... maybe stay at the same level, but that's even not true. He's still very, very, very popular/well known... but still not like when he was playing for the Bulls.

You're still missing the point that I'm not even talking about his popularity. I'm well aware that he isn't literally a more popular figure right now than when he was playing.




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[EJQJ99]

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On offense Lilliard right hand crossover aswell as his smooth transition pull ups from deep would neutralize MJ's ancient skillset. On the defensive end Klay Thompson on point weakside rotations aswell as his lateral quickness would give old *** MJ fits.

You must have fallen and hit your head hard. You might think about a visit to the DR.


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[ojandpizza]

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Vni man all these people taking you serious lol


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[Vni]

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Vni man all these people taking you serious lol


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It's funny because what I wrote barely makes sense. I tryed to humbly imitate AlexBrady's style of post but failed miserably haha. It sounds funny though.

[CaseIH]

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Can anyone actually give at least one decent reason why I can't have the opinion that I think his name has grown over the years? Other than just saying over and over again that I'm wrong and whatever I post is wrong, and whatever example I give is wrong and pointless?

I mean if you want to change my mind then actually attempt to change my mind, otherwise why tell my I'm off base over and over again with nothing constructive to say?

Didnt you know opinions are a thing of the past, you can only have a opinion now days if its inline with the people your having the discussion with,lol.

Even if you think Lebron is better than MJ, which I guess I havent noticed in any of your comments as thats what your saying, but maybe I missed something. But even if you actually do think that, its your right, imo your wrong, if you think that, but I respect your opinion. Quite frankly Lebron continues on for 2 or 3 more years of getting the Cavs to the finals, then I think there is a awful good arguement to be made of him being the GOAT, and I dont care if he gets to 6 rings or not, if you continue year after year of getting your team to the finals, all the while dominating, your in the discussion with the GOAT.
As I have said before I dont like discussing GOAT in sports as a whole, rather GOAT at their position, and even then their is so many variables to take into account, like teammates, era, rule changes to name a few things that make it hard to fairly judge. Thats why GOAT is jut a opinion of a person, and everyone has a right to what they think.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?

Nobody said he couldn't have that opinion though or that is has to be "inline" with everyone else though.

People have listed "decent reasons"(whatever the **** that is)but if he doesn't want to listen to it or put any weight in them then that's cool.

But let's not act like the reasons everyone mentioned since the question/statement was originally posted, doesn't have any weight or significance(just throwing this out there in general).

[areobee401]

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Training camp get here soon enough.

[ojandpizza]

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Nobody said he couldn't have that opinion though or that is has to be "inline" with everyone else though.

People have listed "decent reasons"(whatever the **** that is)but if he doesn't want to listen to it or put any weight in them then that's cool.

But let's not act like the reasons everyone mentioned since the question/statement was originally posted, doesn't have any weight or significance(just throwing this out there in general).

The thing is, nobody ever answered with a response that was related to my point. Which is what I was getting at the whole time.

People were assuming I'm talking about him from a popularity standpoint, the responses to my posts were made as if I was saying "Jordan is more popular now, more people know him now".

[Fresh Tendrils]

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But we/people have responded to your points. You've just chosen to not accept them as counter-points.