No doubt. I actually had him starting at PF on my list. You guys have some serious bigs. Can't forget Dave DeBuscherre or Charles Oakley either. Monsters. I put those two and Allan Houston on the bench, but you could substitute Houston for Porzingis too.
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No doubt. I actually had him starting at PF on my list. You guys have some serious bigs. Can't forget Dave DeBuscherre or Charles Oakley either. Monsters. I put those two and Allan Houston on the bench, but you could substitute Houston for Porzingis too. -
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Just hope that you don't have to touch your bench beyond Manu, haha.Comment
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Pg: Rajon Rondo SG: Paul Pierce SF: Larry Bird PF: Kevin Garnett C: Bill Russell
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Point guard: Mark Price
Shooting guard: Kyrie Irving
Small forward: LeBron James
Power forward: Larry Nancy
Center: Nate Thurton
6th Man: Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Price is probably the best player we had before 2003. He was the best player on those early 90s teams, just unfortunate he played in a time filled with great guards.
Kyrie is probably the most controversial here because he's only in his sixth year but he hit the game winner in an NBA Finals Game 7. He's an Ohio hero.
LeBron needs no explanation. The greatest Cavalier of all time. Without him, people wouldn't know who the Cavs are. We were just that team Jordan used to dominate.
Nance was another big player in those 90s teams. A little before my time but things that I've seen of him make me confident putting him in my team.
Nate Thurmond was only in Cleveland for two years in the early days but his impact is so important to this franchise. He was the first big name to play in Cleveland. My dad idolised him so much when he was younger, he named me after him.
Big Z is the modern day Mr Cavalier. 14 years, a whole bunch of records and part of those championship caliber teams of the 00s. It's just a shame he chased the ring like Varejao did.
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Man, it hurts to see how many great players we have historically to make a great team and how few we have presently lolOriginally posted by G PericoIf I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
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Pg:Tim hardaway
SG: d wade
Sf: lebron
Pf: Alonzo Morning
C:Shaq
6th man would be bosh
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We're talking about all-time career not just their career with that franchise right?
For the Raptors:
C-Hakeem
PF-Bosh
SF-McGrady
SG-Carter
PG-Billups
Bench:
C-Valanciunas
PF-Camby
SF-Marion
SG-DeRozan
PG-Lowry
If it's just best career with that franchise itself, then I'd have JV,Bosh,VC,DeRozan,Lowry.Comment
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What's your All-Time Starting 5?
I meant what they did specifically for that team. So your second list. But even with that, I think Bosh did enough when he was there to earn a starting spot at PF for the Raptors all-time. I didn't even remember Camby on that team, really.
And where's T-Mac and Carter?
T-Mac MAYBE makes the Raptors bench. He was only there 3 seasons and at his best year there was a volume shooter who could get you 14-15 point. He didn't explode until after he left the team. If he makes their bench it's only because the franchise is relatively new, and had a void in talent for many years.
DeRozan now in his 8th year with the team has been better than T-Mac's best year for every year of his career besides his rookie year. Dude led the league in scoring for the first month of this season and is putting up 29 per 36, scoring numbers that match T-Mac's single best year with Orlando and doing it more efficiently.
But Vince is definitely a starter for that squad.
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You guys have a great starting 5, but the bench is lacking. I didn't put Bosh in there, but I should have over Whiteside. Not sure what I was thinking. I did have Ray Allen, Glen Rice, and Udonis Haslem (one of the best glue guys in history).Comment
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I mean, you could do the lists like that, but then Patrick Ewing would also be on the Sonics team, Shaq on the Celtics, AI on the Pistons, and Dominique Wilkins on the Spurs. You'd see duplicates and triplicates all over the place.Comment
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T-Mac MAYBE makes the Raptors bench. He was only their 3 seasons and at his best year there was a volume shooter who could get you 14-15 point. He didn't explode until after he left the team. If he makes their bench it's only because the franchise is relatively new, and had a void in talent for many years.
DeRozan now in his 8th year with the team has been better than T-Mac's best year for every year of his career besides his rookie year. Dude led the league in scoring for the first month of this season and is putting up 29 per 36, scoring numbers that match T-Mac's single best year with Orlando and doing it more efficiently.
But Vince is definitely a starter for that squad.
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Could you put Carter or DeRozan in the 3 spot, though? I already have Lowry and Carter in the backcourt, but was Carter or is DeRozan big enough to play the SF?Comment
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That's a sneaky balanced squad, with depth everywhere, and no glaring weaknesses. What you lack in a big defensive prescence, Camby and Oakley make up for. You've obviously got scoring and distributing everywhere else.Comment
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Wow. Really put that into perspective. I let the historical goggles cloud my judgement. You'll probably see that a lot on my lists.
Could you put Carter or DeRozan in the 3 spot, though? I already have Lowry and Carter in the backcourt, but was Carter or is DeRozan big enough to play the SF?
SG/SF are pretty much interchangeable, especially in the modern era of basketball when literally every position can handle the ball and off-guards have evolved to more than just curling off screens.
But to answer your question more directly, Vince actually spent his first few years playing small forward. He started at small forward with Christie being the SG and then when T-Mac worked his way into the line up Vince was still typically matched up with the opposing team's forwards because T-Mac was so skinny back then. Vince moved to more of a SG role the later half of his Toronto career and of course with New Jersey playing next to RJ.
DeRozan has almost always been slotted at SG in the lineups, but he's actually bigger than Vince. But according to basketball reference he's spent over 30% of his career minutes playing small forward.
So basically either player can play and has played that spot, while both may be a slightly undersized SF they're both big for a SG so it balances out fairly evenly. Technically out of the 3 T-Mac spent the least amount of time playing small forward, until T-Mac went to Houston and permanently moved to that role.
Edit: look at it this way. In his 3 seasons with the team T-Mac only started about a 4th of his games. If you could take that same young T-Mac a put him on today's team, which is consistently a top 3 seed in the East and much better than they were back then, he likely would still come off their bench now. So making him a starter on their all time team when he wasn't even a starter when he played for them is a bit of a stretch. He was great with Orlando, but definitely still young and learning with Toronto.
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