2017 Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Y'all notice how free agency been going on for five days now and NOBODY has offered Niko Mirotic's inconsistent *** nothing yet? Dude is a RFA and his name hasn't even been mentioned all week.


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[wwharton]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

The college coach was always the driving force behind the Celtics connection. That doesn't take anything away from the build up to today being any less real.

Before the knee surgery when he was in GSW, that man was quick as hell with the ball in his hands.

Enjoyed watching him and Baron during the "We Believe" years.

Back in the days when the OAKLAND Warriors were considered a small market team by NBA standards.

Gonna keep beating that drum on you, Revis... tough love man. You need to get out your feelings about George leaving. It's making you say some indefensibly crazy things (how you gonna use LBJ going back home as a reason to call it an outlier and ignore George saying he wants to GO BACK HOME to play for the Lakers?).

Take a cue from Jazzman. He had his predictable meltdown, and has otherwise disappeared in mourning or came back staying out of talk related to the heartbreak.

[Caveman24]

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Y'all notice how free agency been going on for five days now and NOBODY has offered Niko Mirotic's inconsistent *** nothing yet? Dude is a RFA and his name hasn't even been mentioned all week.


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I didn't even notice he was on the market 😂.

[z Revis]

2017 Offseason Thread

People came at you because you had that flawed *** argument "Small Markets can't compete" card and tried to blame other factors for Utah or Indiana not being able to keep their players. I mean when something silly is said, that should be expected, lol.



You mentioned this earlier:





I'm confused.



So they didn't want to go into the luxury tax to pay him or they were up against the Hard Cap and literally could not spend anymore money?

I never said small markets can't compete though. I said they're at a disadvantage. I don't feel like I'm excusing anyone either. You can bring up their bad draft picks or whatever, which yes they could've done better to retain Hayward, but that's still beside the point. The Celtics haven't exactly drafted well either but here they are getting a get out of jail free card and signing a 27 year old All Star to bolster their roster. Where were Utah's big signings coming from?

I mean it's really a simple point that y'all wanna disagree with for some reason. I never said it's impossible for small markets to get big players or that Indy or Utah couldn't have done better to retain their guys or any of that... just that IMO it's easier for more attractive markets to build their teams because they have a better shot at landing a top FA than others do.

As for the Lance situation, I feel like you're asking the same question here. They could've offered Lance more had they been willing to dip into the tax, no? Unless there's something I'm missing about how the cap works.


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[JazzMan]

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Take a cue from Jazzman. He had his predictable meltdown, and has otherwise disappeared in mourning or came back staying out of talk related to the heartbreak.

It helps to get it all out and **** on the guy as much as possible. I mean aside from the ridiculous hangover, I feel 1000x better. Just have to accept it and move on.


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[jfsolo]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

It's crazy that some Laker fans around the net are melting down about us "losing" out on Hill and Waiters. The 2018 plan is definitely high risk, but at least let it fail first before you jump of a cliff.

[z Revis]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Back in the days when the OAKLAND Warriors were considered a small market team by NBA standards.



Gonna keep beating that drum on you, Revis... tough love man. You need to get out your feelings about George leaving. It's making you say some indefensibly crazy things (how you gonna use LBJ going back home as a reason to call it an outlier and ignore George saying he wants to GO BACK HOME to play for the Lakers?).



Take a cue from Jazzman. He had his predictable meltdown, and has otherwise disappeared in mourning or came back staying out of talk related to the heartbreak.

Lol honestly man I'm not that mad PG wanted out. Maybe it just hasn't hit me yet idk. For sure I don't like it, but we weren't really that close to competing for a title. We had our run with him and been on the decline since. I'm more mad at Bird than PG.

You're right though I did say that lol, but I did say a post or two later you can count Bron if you want. In the end all these signings are circumstantial. A ton of factors go into it, but I feel like the bigger markets have at least SOME advantage. I don't think I should feel wrong for thinking that...


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[NYJets]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

You're right though I did say that lol, but I did say a post or two later you can count Bron if you want. In the end all these signings are circumstantial. A ton of factors go into it, but I feel like the bigger markets have at least SOME advantage. I don't think I should feel wrong for thinking that...


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Yea but you were also saying that NBA should have a franchise tag. Don't think the advantage is close to being big enough to make changes like that

[redsox4evur]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

So a Jazz fan at the Celts Summer League game is yelling at Ainge telling him he owes the Jazz Avery Bradley.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

I never said small markets can't compete though. I said they're at a disadvantage. I don't feel like I'm excusing anyone either. You can bring up their bad draft picks or whatever, which yes they could've done better to retain Hayward, but that's still beside the point. The Celtics haven't exactly drafted well either but here they are getting a get out of jail free card and signing a 27 year old All Star to bolster their roster. Where were Utah's big signings coming from?

As for the Lance situation, I feel like you're asking the same question here. They could've offered Lance more had they been willing to dip into the tax, no? Unless there's something I'm missing about how the cap works.


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1. How exactly are the Celtics getting a "get out of jail free card"? What does that even mean in this case? Lol

2. NBA has a Soft/Hard Cap.

The Hard Cap is number that no team can exceed even if they're paying luxury tax. Whereas with the Soft Cap, you can still exceed that under certain conditions but you still may have to pay luxury tax. Not 100% sure but one of CBA experts can go into further detail about how that works.



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Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Yeah now going over the hard cap means you get hit with that repeater tax.

Doesn't seem like many owners are braving that area. Even Dan Gilbert is probably trying to get away from it.

[young22]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Zeller got waived 3 days ago. Also as far as I know FA isn't over yet. And we still have some space to fill out the rest of our roster. Also we could trade Smart/Bradley/Crowder for bigs.

Y'all Celtics fans some real optimistic dudes, huh?

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[young22]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Please enlighten me how taking the scoring pressure off of IT and a 2nd legit scorer isn't a huge need for the Celtics? Because I'm pretty sure outside of a good defensive big who can rebound that was our biggest need on this team. Our 2nd best scorer last year was Al Horford, if he's your second best scorer that's not good.

What really shoulda happened is y'all shoulda traded for Boogie

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[young22]

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His biggest claim to fame..people at one point in time thought he was better than Steph Curry

(It actually looks weird seeing Curry in the old Warriors jersey)

Don't sleep, he used to be nasty. Was better than Curry for a while

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[redsox4evur]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Y'all Celtics fans some real optimistic dudes, huh?

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Or I am basing off the reports I saw earlier today where Chris Mannix reported that we still have interest in Marc Gasol. Like CMH said he doesn't fit the way our bigs play. A mobile guy who can stretch the floor really well. But he fits the exact needs we have left, rim protection and rebounding. So I imagine now Ainge is either going to trade Bradley/Crowder/Smart for that player or just use 1 of the 891918211 cap exceptions and sign one.

What really shoulda happened is y'all shoulda traded for Boogie

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I agree completely I would've loved Boogie on this team and I think Danny would've liked Boogie on this team. But Brad didn't want him for whatever reason. I think it was because he was a headcase but I don't remember exactly.