2017 Offseason Thread

[redsox4evur]

2017 Offseason Thread

It changes the max contract now though. Before the change I think the difference in signing in Boston was only like $3M if I remember right. Now it's $6M.



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Yea the players are still the same, I think. I don't think getting rid of guys like James Young and Jordan Mickey would've cleared the money before the drop. So it comes down to Bradley or Crowder like I had stated before.


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Spurs about to trade Aldridge for some chips and a soda

[Boltman]

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Why's it always gotta be chips lol?

[ojandpizza]

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All those guys have potential to be complete busts too tho, which obviously KP isn't. It's the going from a known commodity (which is also a very good one), to a complete unknown that's probably unsettling folks.

This I agree with. But I still think if I'm in rebuilding mode I would trade him for a top 3 pick so long as I got some future picks or assets back to cover my *** a little if the pick is a bust.

If there was any truth the the Booker rumors I would absolutely trade him for Booker and swap the 8th pick with the 4th pick. But I don't know if that's a package Phoenix would even consider.


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Gone head and let Doc have it Dre. If this ain't the lateral move of all lateral moves. It may actually be worse because Drummond is getting paid more for much longer and is a worse free throw shooter.


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Never trade Bill Russell for a clone.

[dubcity]

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So, is Woj back from Broussard/Isola territory now? Lol. People so quick to bury a guy.

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So, is Woj back from Broussard/Isola territory now? Lol. People so quick to bury a guy.

Nah people were dismissing the rumors not the news.

At this point the draft is tomorrow/today so no more fake sources get attention lolol

[Caveman24]

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So, is Woj back from Broussard/Isola territory now? Lol. People so quick to bury a guy.

No Woj slander on this forum.

[Boltman]

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I wonder how many more deals go down and get announced before the actual draft tonight.

Any bold predictions?

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I wonder how many more deals go down and get announced before the actual draft tonight.

Any bold predictions?

Nobody will make deals then blame the Warriors for winning

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[DieHardYankee26]

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So, is Woj back from Broussard/Isola territory now? Lol. People so quick to bury a guy.

For all this drama, he'll be out of there as soon as KP gets traded. His first report was based on months old rumor. This new one says "Knicks made calls about KP, trying to acquire top 4 pick". If I want to believe the sky is falling, then that statement means the Knicks are actively shopping him and moves are being made. If I think Woj is a snake, that statement is ambiguous enough to piss me off because in reality it could mean any number of things. Lol that could mean he replied to an offer and said no. I've just gotten used to reporters saying a whole lot while saying nothing reading the way NY covers the teams. When the trade is made, I'll react.

And that part is because I'm with OJ, I love KP but I'll love him even more if he came into our lives to be sacrificed for a bunch of high lottery picks. We need hella help.

[CMH]

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"Potential", so do Jackson, Tatum, Fox, Smith...

He's not even at a Karl Towns level, much less AD or something. I'm sure he could make a couple All NBA squads at some point, but he's not untouchable, he hasn't shown anything as of yet that he can be an untouchable type of guy.


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He's 7'3 with 3 point range and only 22 years old having to develop in the Knicks broken system with Carmelo taking all of his shots.

That man is special.

I get that Josh Jackson could be really good too but isn't finding a Josh Jackson easier than finding a Porzingis?

This is like trading a center fielder with immense power potential for a 1B. Sure the 1B is likely going to be your big run producer but centerfielders with that potential are incredibly rare.

There's a reason teams and fans are falling over each other to get him.

Porzingis can put up 20 and 7 for the rest of his career while Jackson turns into a 25 guy and I wouldn't be mad. You can find another Jackson.

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[Vni]

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If Phil wasn't fed up with Porzingis there would be no reason to trade him just to go back to square one. What's the point of finding a talented rookie, develop him for two years and then start again ?

[DieHardYankee26]

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Spoiler

I should say I have a lot of respect for Woj's hustle, he's doing what I think anyone smart in his position would do, but I think it's important to follow the story and see exactly what it is he's trying to do:

His first story said that Phil was not ruling out taking offers for KP, which was old news already said since the exit press conference. His second story about us was that now that people know that Phil is not unwilling to listen to offers, there is a frenzy of interest. I don't think it's a reach to say that while not fake news, this was manufactured in front of us. That is what I mean when I say Isola like, not that he literally is Isola, but that this report could have come exactly from Isola. And the reaction as if that isn't true just rings of denial much in the same way that OJ and his defense of LeBron does to me.

Enter Phil. Stubborn, old man with no interest in tailoring his communication to keep him out of trouble. Phil says more of what he's always said. When asked if the exit interview was a big deal, he said "I've never known anyone to miss one".

I just think very little has changed but it looks like a lot has changed. If Phil was always willing to trade Porzingis but it was going to take a big haul, then it's still going to take a big haul. There's not some sudden urgency that demands the kid be traded. As the draft approaches and teams start making calls, it doesn't surprise me that people are calling to ask about him.

I don't believe much the national media says about us, nor most of what the local (NY) media has to say. This whole thing is ridiculous. The "no contact with Porzingis" was corrected by Ian Begley our local ESPN guy who changed it to "minimal contact". Lol do you realize how much difference that makes? And then of course no one sees the correction.

I'm just excited to get back to winning 30 games in irrelevance.

[NYJets]

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This I agree with. But I still think if I'm in rebuilding mode I would trade him for a top 3 pick so long as I got some future picks or assets back to cover my *** a little if the pick is a bust.

If there was any truth the the Booker rumors I would absolutely trade him for Booker and swap the 8th pick with the 4th pick. But I don't know if that's a package Phoenix would even consider.


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Well what are the other assets? If Boston offers #3, the brooklyn pick, and the lakers pick, you listen. But while I like Booker I'm certiainly not trading Porzingis for him and to move up 4 spots in the draft. That's ridiculous.

He shouldn't be 100% untouchable but there's a reason just the news that the Knicks would listen to offers for him has caused so much hysteria around the league. It's not just here.