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  • King_B_Mack
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    • Jan 2009
    • 24450

    #3616
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    Talking about a potential bidding war between the Cavs and Lakers now for Rose who will be meeting with the Lakers. Is it 2011 again?


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    • ProfessaPackMan
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      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #3617
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by 3304Life
      Brogdon had a great debut season but I dunno how much upside he has. He's already around the same age or older than other top PGs in the league. I really think the Bucks could have benefitted from him.
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      On that team, I'd take JET before Rose just for the fact that Terry has a role and plays it perfect on that particular team.

      I'm trying to think what would Rose bring to them that they already don't have their PGs? (Not that it matters much since Giannis will be handling the ball most of the time anyway).
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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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        • Dec 2006
        • 17294

        #3618
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
        I figured the starting gig in MIL would have worked....aren't they still starting Delly?
        Originally posted by 3304Life
        Brogdon had a great debut season but I dunno how much upside he has. He's already around the same age or older than other top PGs in the league. I really think the Bucks could have benefitted from him.

        Now, with Kyrie, Rose and Calderon we have extra scoring and a pass first PG in the same way that Williams was. Maybe Rose or Kyrie will get time at shooting guard in a small ball system which will be awful defensively but we're at a point now where we've grown this culture of just being a sieve on defense anyway, no point in turning back now.


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        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        On that team, I'd take JET before Rose just for the fact that Terry has a role and plays it perfect on that particular team.

        I'm trying to think what would Rose bring to them that they already don't have their PGs? (Not that it matters much since Giannis will be handling the ball most of the time anyway).
        To respond to these:

        Brogdon is starting. In my opinion, he's a better player already than Present-Day Derrick Rose is and is a far better fit next to Giannis as essentially a 3 and D PG who has a little bit of inside game as well.

        I think Delly is better than Rose at this point too, but given the choice, I probably would flip Delly for Rose simply because Delly and Brogdon is redundant. Rose's ability to break his man down and create shots when the offense gets mucked up is still valuable, and it's something Milwaukee is lacking with Jabari injured. But ultimately, his horrific defense, horrific 3 point shooting, and just average finishing/mid-range shooting ability probably makes him a net-negative player in a starting role. And despite Brogdon being the superior player and fit, I think Milwaukee likely would have started Rose.
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        • Fresh Tendrils
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          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #3619
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          King, sit down. Or better yet - go to the kitchen and pour yourself a nice strong drink.

          Apparently Rose is now linked to talks with the Bulls.

          Sorry, man.



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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #3620
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            Y'all are trippin about Rose. If the Cavs sign him for ****ing $2.1 million, that's a *** **** steal. You realize the alternatives are 47 year old Jose Calderon, 5'7" Kay Felder, or bringing back Deron Williams?

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            • jb12780
              Hall of Fame
              • Oct 2008
              • 10665

              #3621
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by cima
              Y'all are trippin about Rose. If the Cavs sign him for ****ing $2.1 million, that's a *** **** steal. You realize the alternatives are 47 year old Jose Calderon, 5'7" Kay Felder, or bringing back Deron Williams?
              Not when he only suits up for 21 games. Take the Cavs tinted glasses off.

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              • King_B_Mack
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                • Jan 2009
                • 24450

                #3622
                2017 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                King, sit down. Or better yet - go to the kitchen and pour yourself a nice strong drink.

                Apparently Rose is now linked to talks with the Bulls.

                Sorry, man.




                GarPax are going to **** up this rebuild, I have no doubt in my mind of that. THIS just won't be the way they do it.


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                Last edited by King_B_Mack; 07-20-2017, 04:08 PM.

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                • cima
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 13478

                  #3623
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by jb12780
                  Not when he only suits up for 21 games. Take the Cavs tinted glasses off.

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                  Lol. 21 games from him is STILL better than a full season of those other 3 bums


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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #3624
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    King, sit down. Or better yet - go to the kitchen and pour yourself a nice strong drink.

                    Apparently Rose is now linked to talks with the Bulls.

                    Sorry, man.
                    At least he won't be able to run away back home since he'll be home already.

                    Or will he just do the opposite and run away back to NY?
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                    • King_B_Mack
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                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #3625
                      2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      At least he won't be able to run away back home since he'll be home already.

                      Or will he just do the opposite and run away back to NY?


                      That's about to be Vni's problem. He's already got a house in LA and spends all offseason out there. He's signing on with the Lakers and go from there.


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                      • Caveman24
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1352

                        #3626
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Magic been saying all offseason he wants 3 point shooters & defenders. How the hell does Rose fit any of those two?
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                        • Vni
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                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #3627
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by Caveman24
                          Magic been saying all offseason he wants 3 point shooters & defenders. How the hell does Rose fit any of those two?
                          Rose and Deng are reuniting with King in Chicago, don't worry about it Caveman. They're getting the band back together.

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                          • King_B_Mack
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                            • Jan 2009
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                            #3628
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            Rose and Deng are reuniting with King in Chicago, don't worry about it Caveman. They're getting the band back together.


                            You say that now, but Derrick just finished a 3 hour meeting with the Lakers that both sides say they "felt good about." Bet Luol was recruiting him to the bright lights


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                            • Caveman24
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                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1352

                              #3629
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Get Keith Bogans too **** it.
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                              • King_B_Mack
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #3630
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                Crazy fact that could happen if Derrick Rose signs with the Cavs. Should he sign on in Cleveland that would officially put every NBA MVP winner from 2009-2016 on the roster of either the Golden State Warriors or the Cleveland Cavaliers.


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