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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #4561
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by ricky24
    CLE pretending they didn't already know and get enough to cover the injury. Lmao. Just walk if they are demanding more Danny. This is awful business on their end.
    or bad business by Danny by under selling ITs injury..

    this is why the physicals are done post trade.

    They could have seen something that wasnt disclosed.

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    • ricky24
      MVP
      • Jan 2014
      • 4888

      #4562
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      or bad business by Danny by under selling ITs injury..

      this is why the physicals are done post trade.

      They could have seen something that wasnt disclosed.


      They haven't exactly been keeping this injury on the down low. We thought up until a month ago he might need surgery and Danny has openly said he might not be ready to start the season. This is why the cavs are getting an asset worth way more than IT in the deal.

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      • BluFu
        MVP
        • May 2012
        • 3596

        #4563
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ricky24
        They haven't exactly been keeping this injury on the down low. We thought up until a month ago he might need surgery and Danny has openly said he might not be ready to start the season. This is why the cavs are getting an asset worth way more than IT in the deal.
        I heard a report around that time that Isaiah's hip was progressing great which was the reason he never had surgery.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #4564
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #4565
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            Noel on a damn steal. If I'm Cleveland Dallas is the team I'm pushing a trade to.

            Noel, Barnes, pick, Smith Jr, Yogi, Curry.. any 3 of those would help them while keeping them young for the future.


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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #4566
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Unless they're getting Kyrie back, I'm not picking up the phone with a Cleveland area code if I'm Dallas.
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47574

                #4567
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                Noel on a damn steal. If I'm Cleveland Dallas is the team I'm pushing a trade to.

                Noel, Barnes, pick, Smith Jr, Yogi, Curry.. any 3 of those would help them while keeping them young for the future.


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                They should get Seth just to mess with Steph.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #4568
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by ricky24
                  They haven't exactly been keeping this injury on the down low. We thought up until a month ago he might need surgery and Danny has openly said he might not be ready to start the season. This is why the cavs are getting an asset worth way more than IT in the deal.
                  This is what Thomas said earlier this month

                  "The hip is great," Thomas told the*Heraldon Saturday during his annual basketball clinic at BU, where he was hosting more than 400 campers. "It's going well. Rehabbing it, but it's going well. It's a real slow rehab process, but it's getting better and that's what it's all about."
                  The way I see it, I'm taking an independent exam over either of their words...for all we know, in that doctors eyes, it looks like something that could end up actually needing surgery or take until mid season to heal..

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                  • scottyp180
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 2203

                    #4569
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Spoiler


                    Hard to go off IT's word though. What else is a player going into a contract year going to say? It's just an unfortunate situation for Thomas. He's coming off his best season ever and entering a contract year but has an injury that probably needs surgery. If he gets the surgery he likely misses the year and loses out on a big contract. If he doesn't have the surgery he has to tough it out and hope he can still perform well without worsening the injury. Kind of a lose lose for him.

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #4570
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by scottyp180

                      Hard to go off IT's word though. What else is a player going into a contract year going to say? It's just an unfortunate situation for Thomas. He's coming off his best season ever and entering a contract year but has an injury that probably needs surgery. If he gets the surgery he likely misses the year and loses out on a big contract. If he doesn't have the surgery he has to tough it out and hope he can still perform well without worsening the injury. Kind of a lose lose for him.
                      Right, thats why like I said, test is going to give me the final verdict...not Danny or IT. So I dont think its out of the question to say CLE didn't know the full extent of the injury.

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                      • scottyp180
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 2203

                        #4571
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        Right, thats why like I said, test is going to give me the final verdict...not Danny or IT. So I dont think its out of the question to say CLE didn't know the full extent of the injury.
                        Gotcha. Which to me is odd that the hip injury and physical has been down played up to this point. When various outlets and analysts reviewed the trade there seemed to be little to no concern about IT failing the physical. I feel like most people made it seem like the Cavs were getting a prime, healthy Thomas which is why the majority felt that the Cavs easily won the deal.

                        What surprises me most is that CLE didn't seem too concerned either based on the deal being deemed official.

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #4572
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by scottyp180
                          Gotcha. Which to me is odd that the hip injury and physical has been down played up to this point. When various outlets and analysts reviewed the trade there seemed to be little to no concern about IT failing the physical. I feel like most people made it seem like the Cavs were getting a prime, healthy Thomas which is why the majority felt that the Cavs easily won the deal.

                          What surprises me most is that CLE didn't seem too concerned either based on the deal being deemed official.
                          I guess that's the thing, we dont know what they discovered....players get traded with ailments all the time...but you probably never expect its to the point they cant pass a physical

                          I can only remember it happening a couple of times..

                          I remember HOU vetoed DETs trade of Sean Elliott because of his kidney issues...then he was shipped to SA and went on to help us win a chip...

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                          • scottyp180
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2203

                            #4573
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            I guess that's the thing, we dont know what they discovered....players get traded with ailments all the time...but you probably never expect its to the point they cant pass a physical

                            I can only remember it happening a couple of times..

                            I remember HOU vetoed DETs trade of Sean Elliott because of his kidney issues...then he was shipped to SA and went on to help us win a chip...
                            If im remembering correctly I also read there was a trade with Tyson Chandler going to the Thunder that fitted vetoed because of a toe injury.

                            I just think with something like a hip injury teams should always be cautious. That can be a career altering type of injury, especially for a player like Thomas who is smaller and takes a beating.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #4574
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              I was definitely surprised when it was reported earlier in FA that he didn't need/want to get surgery and was going to let it heal on its own.

                              THESE type of hip injuries aren't ones you just put off and hope it heals on its own, especially when you're approaching 30.


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                              • Black Bruce Wayne
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 1459

                                #4575
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                This is a damn mess now. I bet you Cleveland wants Tatum .

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