2017 Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

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"Billups has relationship with Dan Gilbert and Ty Lue, and sources say will be considered as President of Basketball Ops who'd make GM hire."

Crazy offseason so far

Yeah, just went to check his Twitter and saw that. This is craziness to me lol

Lol at the "LeBron effect".

Yeah, 3 straight trips to the Finals and a championship must have been so hard on him. Poor guy just couldn't catch a break.

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I mean, I get what he's saying. You're basically under immense pressure every single season to win a championship because if you don't, you're likely taking the heat for why LeBron didn't win. If you don't win with the best player in the world playing on 1 year deals every year with the threat of leaving on you every year if you aren't making moves that hit each time to his liking that can be a stressful way of running a team. No GM in the league has to operate under that kind of scrutiny EVERY year. You're basically perpetually on the hot seat.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Lol at the "LeBron effect".

Yeah, 3 straight trips to the Finals and a championship must have been so hard on him. Poor guy just couldn't catch a break.

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His contract was up too(his wasn't the only one as there were a few people working under him whose contracts were up as well) so it's not like he's quitting or getting laid off

[Master Live 013]

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Plus if he wins then it is all thanks to LeBron, plus the whole "LeBron is the real GM" stuff.

[TracerBullet]

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Dan Gilbert's probably an ******* too.

[z Revis]

2017 Offseason Thread

I mean none of this about him wanting to go to LA in 2018 is news considering the story broke(got mainstream attention)right around the start of the playoffs.

This was before the All NBA teams were announced but I do remember you were banking on that keeping him in Indiana. Pretty much brushing it off. Not in those exact words but I'll go find the thread where the discussion was going on between, me, you and King.

It's not news he wants to play for the Lakers, it's definitely news that he won't sign anywhere else no matter what and really just a dick move on his part to make sure teams know that while we're sitting there in trade negotiations.

As for the DPE stuff, that's because it was reported earlier in the year if he qualified for it he'd resign in Indy.


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[illwill10]

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Cavs are going to clean house in the front office. Already reports of Assistant GM leaving. I think it won't easy for them. On paper, it seems like a perfect job to have. Championship contending team for past 3 years. A player/tweaking away from having legit shot. But, there will always be uncertainty with Lebron signing 1-2 year contracts with threat of leaving. It will ALWAYS be Championship or bust with LeBron.
Their best bet is to go after a young respected assistant.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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I would love to see PG13 and Butler go to Miami with Whiteside .

I know that's far fetched but the defense tho lol

[Master Live 013]

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Waiting for George to buy that whole page thank you ad when he leaves

[ProfessaPackMan]

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This might be the best offseason from a news standpoint since 2010 and we're still 2 weeks away from the start of FA.

This thread is gonna be crazy, I can see it already


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[King_B_Mack]

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It's not news he wants to play for the Lakers, it's definitely news that he won't sign anywhere else no matter what and really just a dick move on his part to make sure teams know that while we're sitting there in trade negotiations.

As for the DPE stuff, that's because it was reported earlier in the year if he qualified for it he'd resign in Indy.


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Well, we've all known Paul's pull out game is weak for a while now....

[Vni]

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Well, we've all known Paul's pull out game is weak for a while now....

Spoiler

[ProfessaPackMan]

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More on David Griffin

David Griffin helped put a team around LeBron James that brought Cleveland its first title in 54 years. He pulled off the Kevin Love trade. He got J.R. Smith in town. He kept Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson with the Cavaliers. This year he pulled off moves to land Kyle Korver and Deron Williams to add depth. He’s done everything you could ask of a GM of a contender — he was the GM for three years, they went to three Finals, won a ring, and the team won 65 percent of its games.

Griffin was also underpaid by industry standards. He reportedly made less than $2 million a year, while GMs of other contenders make at least $4 million, usually more like $5 million. He was due a healthy raise.

Instead, Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert decided to not pay that bill (and screw Griffin over in the process, we’ll get to that).

Griffin will be his own free agent July 1. Brian Windhorst of ESPN broke the news, Adrian Wojnarowski added details. Then Gilbert himself released a statement saying the two sides “mutually decided not to extend” his contract. Riiight.

The Cavs and general manager David Griffin will part ways according to sources

— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) June 19, 2017

Sources: As David Griffin departs as Cavs — "Just couldn't agree on future," source says – Chauncey Billups expected to emerge as candidate

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) June 19, 2017

Billups has relationship with Dan Gilbert and Ty Lue, and sources say will be considered as President of Basketball Ops who'd make GM hire.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) June 19, 2017

Griffin will have multiple teams pursuing him for significant money in next round of GM openings. He built a deep, capable Cavs front office

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) June 19, 2017

Marc Stein of ESPN had another interesting note.

League sources say the Cavs, until this wild turn, spent much of the day trying to assemble a Jimmy Butler trade. Unclear what happens now.

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) June 19, 2017

All this in front of a crucial off-season for the Cavaliers as they try to change their roster so they can compete with the Warriors, doing so without much in terms of cap space or tradeable assets (stuff spent already in the Cavs’ win-now mode). All with the threat of LeBron James leaving the team in 2018 looming over it.

No way this happens if LeBron stood up for Griffin. James said all the right things publicly when asked about it, but if he really had pushed for Griffin a deal gets done. Then again, if LeBron is bolting in 2018 does he care?

We’ll see what Gilbert pays the next GM, but was this really a move about a few million bucks he could cut to save (since the team tax bill will be brutal next year)?

Gilbert did screw over Griffin in this process: Orlando and Atlanta (plus Milwaukee, to a lesser degree) wanted to talk to Griffin about their GM openings. Gilbert would not give teams permission for those teams to contact Griffin about what are two of the better GM spots available. Eventually, those teams couldn’t wait and made their hires. Griffin was stuck. That after Griffin turned down higher-priced offers last summer — as did some of the rest of the front office staff — to be part of what the Cavaliers had.

It was within Gilbert’s rights, but if he knew he wasn’t going to pay the going rate, then be cool to your employees, not a…. jerk. We’ll go with jerk. But Gilbert is who he is.

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[Master Live 013]

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Gilbert screwing Griffin, George (allegedly) being a dick. Off to an auspicious start.

[illwill10]

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I have been wanting Chauncey Billups to get an opportunity somewhere last few years. Think he has the intelligence and eye to make an impact. Not sure if he would want to leave the analyst booth. Both this complete power and I could see him not letting Lebron dictate how he makes decision

[z Revis]

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Well, we've all known Paul's pull out game is weak for a while now....

Lol.. where's the like button man


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