2017 Offseason Thread

[SPTO]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

I thought more Pacer fans would feel a lot better about the situation being that PG let his intentions be known up front...

Sent from my SM-G955U using Operation Sports mobile app

I know in this modern age of social media etc etc it's nearly impossible to keep things in house but this feels like something that should've been between George and the Pacers. Why expose it for the world to see and make him look like a bum? At least the Pacers know ahead of time what their options are and what they want to do going forward. Honestly, I'd try to get the best deal I can and trade him away this offseason. At least that way they get SOMETHING out of it.

[Boltman]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

I thought more Pacer fans would feel a lot better about the situation being that PG let his intentions be known up front...

Sent from my SM-G955U using Operation Sports mobile app

It's the honorable thing to do. But I'm guessing they wanted him to be disingenuous about his feelings so they'd have a shot at a better trade.

I mean, he's being honest with his feelings on it. I'm assuming he doesn't want mixed messages out there about his intentions. So therefore let all know up front right now.

[3304Life]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Gilbert is a terrible owner man and he's damn lucky for the sake of the franchise that LeBron let bygones be bygones last time. But losing Griffin is huge, he's a huge reason we're in a position to win titles. I miss Gordon.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[SPTO]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Oh yeah, regarding Chauncey Billups? I would seriously have reservations about becoming the GM in Cleveland with a meddling owner like that. If I were him i'd only agree to the job if I can get some freedom and control written into the contract.

[illwill10]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Oh yeah, regarding Chauncey Billups? I would seriously have reservations about becoming the GM in Cleveland with a meddling owner like that. If I were him i'd only agree to the job if I can get some freedom and control written into the contract.

He would be the President of Basketball Ops. I imagine him hiring a up-and-coming front office assistant as the "GM". But, Chauncey would still have last say.

That would be a tough job. First couple years, immense pressure to maintain championship status. Then after Lebron leaves(I don't see Lebron staying until he retires), immediately becomes a rebuilding job. Not that much assets. Would have to consider trading Kyrie when/if Lebron leaves for assets.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

I know in this modern age of social media etc etc it's nearly impossible to keep things in house but this feels like something that should've been between George and the Pacers. Why expose it for the world to see and make him look like a bum? At least the Pacers know ahead of time what their options are and what they want to do going forward. Honestly, I'd try to get the best deal I can and trade him away this offseason. At least that way they get SOMETHING out of it.

So is the issue more with saying where he wants to play then the fact hes leaving? I can understand that somewhat because it ties Indys hands to a degree. Losing a superstar is never easy for fans, but avoiding the additional burn of being left in limbo seems like a plus to me ....


The 24th Letter likes your comment Boltman, lol

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Apparently griffin got denied interviewing for magic job, only to be fired like a month later. Guessing Cavs didn't wish him the best in his future endeavours.

Orlando, Atlanta, and Milwaukee all wanted to interview Griffin and Gilbert denied all of them.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

It's the honorable thing to do. But I'm guessing they wanted him to be disingenuous about his feelings so they'd have a shot at a better trade.

I mean, he's being honest with his feelings on it. I'm assuming he doesn't want mixed messages out there about his intentions. So therefore let all know up front right now.

It's strange how we want athletes to be honest and upfront and not sound like a robot yet when George actually does it, he's an ***hole.

[SPTO]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

So is the issue more with saying where he wants to play then the fact hes leaving? I can understand that somewhat because it ties Indys hands to a degree. Losing a superstar is never easy for fans, but avoiding the additional burn of being left in limbo seems like a plus to me ....

I think that's generally it. If he had said "I have no intentions of coming back to Indy" and left it at that than i'm sure fans can at least see his side of things and appreciate his honesty but by saying he's going to the Lakers seems to be a prickish thing to do IMO.

[z Revis]

2017 Offseason Thread

You had to know this was coming one day.

I did.. I'm not mad he's leaving. If anything I'm more mad at Bird for letting it get to this point. All of his decisions post our ECF teams, granted some looked better at first glance, led to this. None blew up in his face worse than signing Monta Ellis to try and be PG's side kick and firing Frank Vogel and replacing him with a subpar retread coach to try and fix this mess of a roster he put together.

So yeah, not mad at that. I'm mad at how he's handling it. It would've been preferable had he not let the news leak out to the world that he was leaving and instead it would've been rumors of us trying to trade him because we're going in a different direction or whatever reason they fed us. But still... all that's cool. Where it reaches another level of bull**** is him practically trying to block trades out by calling teams up and assuring them he's not resigning there and is def going to LA. It's like he just wants us to sit there and listen to him say he's leaving then expect us to sit on our hands for a year and let him be comfortable and play his last year in Indy before he goes on his way to LA. That ain't how it works... I don't think it's a coincidence either that all the rumors came to a halt as soon as woj reported that. Teams aren't giving us anything now but some bench scrubs.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

KD News

Kevin Durant is reportedly willing to accept less than the max next season, allowing the Warriors to use Bird Rights to re-sign Andre Iguodala and Shaun Livingston.

Durant will put that plan into motion by declining his $27,734,405 player option.

Chris Haynes of ESPN:

Golden State Warriors superstar Kevin Durant will decline his player option for the 2017-18 season and technically become an unrestricted free agent on July 1, but he will re-sign with the team, league sources tell ESPN.

All signs, according to sources, point to Durant signing another one-plus-one pact, which carries a player-option at the end.

This sets up Durant to re-sign for the Non-Bird Exception, which would pay him $31,848,120 next season (120% of his salary this season). His projected max salary is more than $35 million, but Golden State would need cap space to offer it. This route allows the Warriors to stay over the cap and maintain Iguodala’s and Livingston’s Bird Rights.

The question was whether Durant would sign a 1+1 or long-term deal. Because annual raises are based on first-year salary, a long-term contract this summer would have locked him into a lower salary for years – but provided security. A 1+1 will allow Durant to opt out next summer and re-sign for his max, meaning only one year of taking a discount.

Now, the Warriors have to make good on Durant’s sacrifice by re-signing at least Iguodala.

(If I were Durant, I’d also demand the team re-sign Livingston and use the mid-level exception. If I’m taking a discount, I want the owners maximizing the roster around me. I’m not sure Durant is driving such a hard bargain.)

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

If the Cavs lose Love to gain either Jimmy or PG they are still in the same situation they are already in, minus some rebounding. Either scenario is a lateral move at best IMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Master Live 013]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

• Paul George in the right: letting Indiana know he ain't resigning with them after the season. This way Indiana can start with the contingencies of moving forward without him which may include trading him in exchange for assets.
• Paul George in the wrong: making it clear he won't resign with any other team he is trade to hence killing the whole "we trade for him and we'll show him how awesome X team/city is to play/win and convince him to resign". If his intention is letting the Lakers know that he doesn't want them to trade for him and lose assets there are other ways to do that.

At least that's how I would see it from a Pacers fan perspective. There is a material difference between the 2.

[wwharton]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

If the Cavs lose Love to gain either Jimmy or PG they are still in the same situation they are already in, minus some rebounding. Either scenario is a lateral move at best IMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Either would improve their defense and provide someone to rotate in on the wing so they don't collapse whenever James needs a break.

But yeah, still have depth issues and no money to address them.

[z Revis]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

If the Cavs lose Love to gain either Jimmy or PG they are still in the same situation they are already in, minus some rebounding. Either scenario is a lateral move at best IMO.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think they'd be a little better off. First and foremost the defense of those two(at least when PG is locked in) should help some. It also gives them another creator on offense to spell LeBron or Kyrie. Love just seems to have turned into a spot up shooter and when he isn't hitting he's pretty useless outside of his rebounding. I doubt it's enough to put them over the edge though. Maybe they take it to 6 games instead of 4 or 5 lol.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro