2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #106
    Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
    Beside cutting down on the cheap fouls, what rule changes would y'all say has allowed the style to be successful all the sudden? I can't really think of a rule within the last couple years that would stop the Rockets from spreading the floor or Harden from being efficient on the pick and roll. I think players have just become a lot better at hitting
    the semi contested 3 which used to be a shot you would take 9/10...
    You hit it.

    I think the biggest difference is more players can hit the defended three, AND not just hit it from the line, but hit it from steps behind it.

    Not everyone is going Curry 35 feet out, but being able to go 25-28 feet is something you're seeing from forwards now. And you can't defend it, yet.

    Ryan Anderson takes deep threes. Gordon does too. They can spread the floor so wide.

    Teams now set picks at the 3 point line and don't care if a help defender shows. Ball handler will just launch from 25 feet out. It's all good.

    That Spurs set with the center taking the pass at mid court is now done by nearly all playoff teams. I remember when that was not even an option until the top of the key.

    Defenses simply can't keep up. The only solution is longer arms.

    I know we are in a guards league now, but in 15 years, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a big man league again. But it will be big men that not only can hit the three, but can move and defend all positions. We already see some of it now, but as teams start loading up on it, the Green's, Giannis's of the world will simply be like the Miller's and Allen's of the world were to this evolution of the game.

    Edit. Sorry, realizing we are in the WC thread.
    It does relate to Houston and Spurs. I'm interested in seeing what Pop does.

    Last year I predicted Pop was losing on purpose to the Thunder. But that, uh was proven false.

    So who knows! Once the Spurs figure it out, it's impossible to beat them. But they have to figure it out first. And unless Pop starts playing Simmons and others, I don't know if it's going to happen this time.

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    Last edited by CMH; 05-03-2017, 02:01 PM.
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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #107
      Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      Lowe with a good break down on what the Spurs can do to counter the Rockets



      I was literally just saying this:
      Well, Green needs to hit shots first.

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      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #108
        2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by CMH
        Well, Green needs to hit shots first.

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        Gotta keep him in the game then.

        All it takes it one shot to go in.
        Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 05-03-2017, 02:14 PM.
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #109
          Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by CMH
          Well, Green needs to hit shots first.

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          Yep..hes got to step up.

          He's a 40% three point shooter....make em pay.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #110
            Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Gotta keep him in the game then.
            I didn't watch the whole game and I haven't looked at the numbers, but the minutes I did see, the dude looked awful out there.

            I know he has these games so I'm sure he will bounce back. But if he's bricking like that, I don't know how Pop can wait on him especially when the deficit is getting out of control.

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            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #111
              Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by CMH
              I didn't watch the whole game and I haven't looked at the numbers, but the minutes I did see, the dude looked awful out there.

              I know he has these games so I'm sure he will bounce back. But if he's bricking like that, I don't know how Pop can wait on him especially when the deficit is getting out of control.

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              It's almost like a Chicken or Egg scenario in this case and it's something Pop will have to figure out.

              Do you bench him knowing that you're going to need him to help with defense, especially on Harden, despite being cold from 3?

              Or do you keep him in there and hope he gets hot like all shooters usually do? You're not going to beat Houston at their own game or win a shootout with them, so at this point, maybe the best solution would be to keep him in there and hope for the best.

              And it would also help them if Aldridge could play better. Wonder why they don't use Kyle Anderson as a small ball 4? Especially if they won't use Kawhi at the 4...
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • wwharton
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2002
                • 26949

                #112
                Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                I wouldn't go too far analyzing the Spurs/Rockets game (besides the fact that we have nothing else to do until the next game). We all know the Spurs are relying a lot on some old guys AND they played a long, tough series with Memphis while Houston rested up a bit.

                At this point, that's all I chalk the one sided nature of the game up to. If it were the regular season, Pop would've probably rested a bunch of guys.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #113
                  Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  aight fellas, let's bounce back

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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #114
                    Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    These dudes going to guard Kawhi or not lol.

                    If the basketball gods are listening to my wishes we will get a Kawhi/Bron finals.


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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #115
                      Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      What the **** is with Gasol. Softer than his normal soft right now.


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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #116
                        Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        Keep driving Danny...

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #117
                          Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          aight fellas, let's bounce back
                          They need to in the worst way!

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                          • 33JAF
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 474

                            #118
                            Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Spurs looking like Spurs.

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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #119
                              Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Lee, gonna need you to post up Eric Gordon bro

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #120
                                Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                Lee, gonna need you to post up Eric Gordon bro


                                Nah he good brah.


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