2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

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  • Streets
    Supreme
    • Aug 2004
    • 5787

    #121
    Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    Interesting that at the beginning it was all run and gun and the Spurs outplayed Houston at their own game. Once they settled down and played more of a half court style Houston climbed back in it (though KWL leaving might have had something to do with that).

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #122
      Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      This Houston bench plays together well man...being able to rest your star like this is a nice advantage to have....

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #123
        Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        That Parker iso would have been lemon pepper chicken a couple years ago...

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        • TheFinalEvent97
          MVP
          • Jul 2016
          • 1519

          #124
          Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          Am i the only one who has noticed the improvement in Kawhi's playmaking?

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          • CaseIH
            MVP
            • Sep 2013
            • 3945

            #125
            Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by TheFinalEvent97
            Am i the only one who has noticed the improvement in Kawhi's playmaking?

            Its improved a lot this season. This looks more like the Spurs team that I thought would show up in game 1. Using Hardens laziness against him, by whoever he is guarding is driving and kicking or shooting. Its what I thought I would see in game 1, plus having Kawhi guard harden more on the defensive end. Nice seeing LA show up tonight, not sure where his head was in game 1, but it wasnt in the game.
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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #126
              Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Aldridge was solid, he should be able to take over against this team if he'll be aggressive.


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              • Nevertheles109
                Pro
                • Nov 2012
                • 643

                #127
                Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by wwharton
                I wish I had came to this thread first... just wrote about the difficulty of guarding the PnR and the options against the Celtics and Thomas specifically. In many ways, the same could apply to guarding the Rockets and Harden specifically.

                Honestly, the hope against the PnR is that bad screens are set or the screener slips early (these happen A LOT) but if they're setting good screens, match up problems will happen... or someone will be available for an open shot. This is pretty much every time. The best strategy is to mix up how you attack a PnR and that's hard to do consistently and have all guys consistently on the same page.

                I don't think you're wrong for criticizing a strategy of switching, considering the results we saw. But some switches may have not been strategy (if the plan involves any option that doesn't hedge or double) but just a result of good screens. They also may have been using multiple strategies and the ones that stick out are those that worked horribly.

                In short, I just really doubt it's as simple as Pop putting together a strategy that results in a PF/C guarding Harden out by the 3 point line. It makes more sense that a situation like that is a result of an offensive strategy working better than the defensive strategy for that possession.
                Well put, and you're right, I'm confident it wasn't as simple as switching the Bigs on Harden and putting them on an island.

                However, they are actively trapping and hedging today;
                Harden 1-9 FG 3 pts
                4 assist
                6-15 HOU 3 Pt FG
                Lovely results. It doesn't hurt the LA and Green are acting like they know how to ball.

                Hope the second half is fun.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #128
                  Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  Damn that play by Tony Parker. Like watching '07 Tony or something.

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                  • TheFinalEvent97
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 1519

                    #129
                    Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    I'm following the play-by-play scores, did Harden do the shoot-behind-screen and flail to get the 3 FT's?

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #130
                      Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      I don't feel bad for that **** happening to Harden given what he gets away with, but that was one of the most trash calls I've seen. Patty just basically started flailing and flopped and got that

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                      • cabra1
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 1055

                        #131
                        Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        That's one of the worst flops I've ever seen lmao


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                        • cabra1
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1055

                          #132
                          Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          And then harden gets his bs flop on the 3. Good times


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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #133
                            Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Let's go Sim....

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                            • TheFinalEvent97
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 1519

                              #134
                              Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Kawhi has equalled his career-high assists with 7

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                              • 33JAF
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2016
                                • 474

                                #135
                                Re: 2017 Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Oh ****....

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