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  • Kashanova
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 12695

    #61
    Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

    some one said kobe is a good defensive player but didnt mr overpaid allan houston score a good 50 something points on him. Kobe is overrated i would take mcgrady or lebron anyday over him kobe doesnt make everyone better from some games ive seen of houston mac is passin the ball getting everyone open with his pentration and doing the little things that dont appear on the stat sheet

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    • Rocky
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 6896

      #62
      Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

      Originally posted by Kashanova
      some one said kobe is a good defensive player but didnt mr overpaid allan houston score a good 50 something points on him. Kobe is overrated i would take mcgrady or lebron anyday over him kobe doesnt make everyone better from some games ive seen of houston mac is passin the ball getting everyone open with his pentration and doing the little things that dont appear on the stat sheet
      You also forget that he guarded PG's in the PLAYOFFS and shut them down. There are always going to be isolated incidents but Kobe is one of the best defenders in the league period.....LBJ and TMac are not. Plus Kobe is quite a bit better offensively. And he has championships and clutch ability that not much have. The only case you could make against Kobe is his selfishness.
      "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
      -Rocky Balboa

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      • Rocky
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 6896

        #63
        Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

        Originally posted by Kashanova
        some one said kobe is a good defensive player but didnt mr overpaid allan houston score a good 50 something points on him. Kobe is overrated i would take mcgrady or lebron anyday over him kobe doesnt make everyone better from some games ive seen of houston mac is passin the ball getting everyone open with his pentration and doing the little things that dont appear on the stat sheet
        You also forget that he guarded PG's in the PLAYOFFS and shut them down. There are always going to be isolated incidents but Kobe is one of the best defenders in the league period.....LBJ and TMac are not. Plus Kobe is quite a bit better offensively. And he has championships and clutch ability that not much have. The only case you could make against Kobe is his selfishness.
        "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
        -Rocky Balboa

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        • marshall750
          Banned
          • Sep 2003
          • 482

          #64
          Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

          Originally posted by Kashanova
          some one said kobe is a good defensive player but didnt mr overpaid allan houston score a good 50 something points on him. Kobe is overrated i would take mcgrady or lebron anyday over him kobe doesnt make everyone better from some games ive seen of houston mac is passin the ball getting everyone open with his pentration and doing the little things that dont appear on the stat sheet
          Yes, because Allan Houston scored 50 points against him once he is overrated....

          Man, it is difficult to explain how frustrating it is trying to address comments like these and many of the others in this thread. If you don't like Kobe, then fine, but you people really need to stop trying to discount his basketball skills, you're just making yourselves look silly.

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          • marshall750
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 482

            #65
            Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

            Originally posted by Kashanova
            some one said kobe is a good defensive player but didnt mr overpaid allan houston score a good 50 something points on him. Kobe is overrated i would take mcgrady or lebron anyday over him kobe doesnt make everyone better from some games ive seen of houston mac is passin the ball getting everyone open with his pentration and doing the little things that dont appear on the stat sheet
            Yes, because Allan Houston scored 50 points against him once he is overrated....

            Man, it is difficult to explain how frustrating it is trying to address comments like these and many of the others in this thread. If you don't like Kobe, then fine, but you people really need to stop trying to discount his basketball skills, you're just making yourselves look silly.

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              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #66
              Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

              Originally posted by Rocky
              You also forget that he guarded PG's in the PLAYOFFS and shut them down. There are always going to be isolated incidents but Kobe is one of the best defenders in the league period.....LBJ and TMac are not. Plus Kobe is quite a bit better offensively. And he has championships and clutch ability that not much have. The only case you could make against Kobe is his selfishness.
              I dont know Rock. Shaq allowed him to gamble to no end and it worked, but now he can't do that ans his D hasnt been the most superb. He can D up no doubt, but the way people talking how he seperates himself and all is a bit of hype.

              BTW that statement about rings andc clutchness could also be made about guys like Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, John Paxson,etc.. so it kinda invalidates that thought.

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #67
                Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                Originally posted by Rocky
                You also forget that he guarded PG's in the PLAYOFFS and shut them down. There are always going to be isolated incidents but Kobe is one of the best defenders in the league period.....LBJ and TMac are not. Plus Kobe is quite a bit better offensively. And he has championships and clutch ability that not much have. The only case you could make against Kobe is his selfishness.
                I dont know Rock. Shaq allowed him to gamble to no end and it worked, but now he can't do that ans his D hasnt been the most superb. He can D up no doubt, but the way people talking how he seperates himself and all is a bit of hype.

                BTW that statement about rings andc clutchness could also be made about guys like Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, John Paxson,etc.. so it kinda invalidates that thought.

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                • Mofasa
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 471

                  #68
                  Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                  Didn't kobe keep M.redd to 1-8 shooting and held B davis to 4-20 all the while leading his tea to victory? And thats this year
                  “It’s so senseless to me to say he shouldn’t take over like that. You give the same amount of shots to everybody else and they’re not making that many, I know it.”
                  -Jerry West

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                  • Mofasa
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 471

                    #69
                    Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                    Didn't kobe keep M.redd to 1-8 shooting and held B davis to 4-20 all the while leading his tea to victory? And thats this year
                    “It’s so senseless to me to say he shouldn’t take over like that. You give the same amount of shots to everybody else and they’re not making that many, I know it.”
                    -Jerry West

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                    • 2012
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 304

                      #70
                      Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                      I watched Bryant shut down Bibby in game 7 at Sac from about 5 minute mark in 4th quarter through overtime.

                      If anyone remembers that game, Bibby had scored 20+ plus points through three quarters and was on fire, in fact he hit the shot that sent the game to overtime. (a play on which Fisher guarded him).

                      I 've seen Bryant take out a hot T Parker in the playoffs (after four or five games of Parker scoring 20+points and being hailed the best pg).

                      He was the reason why they beat Portland in 2000 semis. Bryant led the charge from 15 points down, who do you think got Shaw the ball for those threes, who threw the lob to shaq.

                      He has been the reason why the Lakers advanced past San Antonio and Minnesota the last three years. +

                      Until I see these other clowns do anything in the playoffs, then it's a garbage issue. On a sleepy monday night against the Hornets, a whole host of players can drop 40 pts and 10 reb and assists. Let's see how they play in the last five minutes of game 7 in the playoffs.

                      If I rank them.

                      1. Kobe and he will be at his best in his early 30's.
                      2. Lebron - he will the best when Kobe leaves
                      3. Tmac - he's more Domonique

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                      • 2012
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 304

                        #71
                        Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                        I watched Bryant shut down Bibby in game 7 at Sac from about 5 minute mark in 4th quarter through overtime.

                        If anyone remembers that game, Bibby had scored 20+ plus points through three quarters and was on fire, in fact he hit the shot that sent the game to overtime. (a play on which Fisher guarded him).

                        I 've seen Bryant take out a hot T Parker in the playoffs (after four or five games of Parker scoring 20+points and being hailed the best pg).

                        He was the reason why they beat Portland in 2000 semis. Bryant led the charge from 15 points down, who do you think got Shaw the ball for those threes, who threw the lob to shaq.

                        He has been the reason why the Lakers advanced past San Antonio and Minnesota the last three years. +

                        Until I see these other clowns do anything in the playoffs, then it's a garbage issue. On a sleepy monday night against the Hornets, a whole host of players can drop 40 pts and 10 reb and assists. Let's see how they play in the last five minutes of game 7 in the playoffs.

                        If I rank them.

                        1. Kobe and he will be at his best in his early 30's.
                        2. Lebron - he will the best when Kobe leaves
                        3. Tmac - he's more Domonique

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                        • Kashanova
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 12695

                          #72
                          Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                          loul dang scored 21 on kobe. joe johnson 16. maggette 24. hill throw 27 on him.

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                          • Kashanova
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 12695

                            #73
                            Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                            loul dang scored 21 on kobe. joe johnson 16. maggette 24. hill throw 27 on him.

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                            • invurzion
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 251

                              #74
                              Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                              Originally posted by Jplaya2023
                              explain how kobe is better than clyde????????? Until kobe leads his team to 2 nba finals this comparison is ridiculous. Clyde never had a sidekick or a player like shaq in his career, and he still found ways to win using what he had.
                              Ever heard of Hakeem Olajuwon?
                              ../Dallas Cowboys Fan | Atlanta Braves Fan | Florida State Seminoles Fan | Dallas Mavericks Fan\..

                              The Prince of the 910 has taken his throne...

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                              • invurzion
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 251

                                #75
                                Re: Tmac-Kobe-Lebron?

                                Originally posted by Jplaya2023
                                explain how kobe is better than clyde????????? Until kobe leads his team to 2 nba finals this comparison is ridiculous. Clyde never had a sidekick or a player like shaq in his career, and he still found ways to win using what he had.
                                Ever heard of Hakeem Olajuwon?
                                ../Dallas Cowboys Fan | Atlanta Braves Fan | Florida State Seminoles Fan | Dallas Mavericks Fan\..

                                The Prince of the 910 has taken his throne...

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