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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469
    #151
    Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

    Yesterday man. I made a point about Shaq being there to back up Kobe on D as you could see in the pic. Where were you man?

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      • NINJAK2
        *S *dd*ct
        • Jan 2003
        • 6185
        #152
        Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

        There is not one player in the NBA who can shut down every player at his position night in and night out(Except maybe Shaq if he wanted). That is a rediculous expectation for any player to have. At some point in their careers virtually everyone was considered the best player around in some basketball circles and most of these guys have pride man. People are going to get off on Kobe, T-Mac, James, Pierce, etc. because they are going up against great players night in and night out and it is bound to happen.

        IMO there are no defensive stoppers in the nba. Only things these guys can do is make scoring difficult, not IMPOSSIBLE. Some are better at this than others.

        KDre, do you have a gif from that same Orl/LA game where Kobe spins off of T-mac so fast(matched up one on one) and heads to the hole for the dunk?

        I don't care much for Kobe but it's relatively easy to find some kind of media documenting a good defensive player getting beat badly in the NBA.

        No doubt in my mind though that not having to shoulder the load on offense like some of his opponents in the past leaves him with a little more energy and tenacity on the defensive end compared to some of his opponents. Kobe is still one of the best defender's at his position imo. Not in the same mold of a Bruce Bowen/ Ron Artest imo but those players don't have to put up 20-30 points a night for their team to win like Kobe will have to this year imo.

        I mean no one any disrespect.
        Last edited by NINJAK2; 12-07-2004, 10:16 PM.
        EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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          • NINJAK2
            *S *dd*ct
            • Jan 2003
            • 6185
            #153
            Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

            There is not one player in the NBA who can shut down every player at his position night in and night out(Except maybe Shaq if he wanted). That is a rediculous expectation for any player to have. At some point in their careers virtually everyone was considered the best player around in some basketball circles and most of these guys have pride man. People are going to get off on Kobe, T-Mac, James, Pierce, etc. because they are going up against great players night in and night out and it is bound to happen.

            IMO there are no defensive stoppers in the nba. Only things these guys can do is make scoring difficult, not IMPOSSIBLE. Some are better at this than others.

            KDre, do you have a gif from that same Orl/LA game where Kobe spins off of T-mac so fast(matched up one on one) and heads to the hole for the dunk?

            I don't care much for Kobe but it's relatively easy to find some kind of media documenting a good defensive player getting beat badly in the NBA.

            No doubt in my mind though that not having to shoulder the load on offense like some of his opponents in the past leaves him with a little more energy and tenacity on the defensive end compared to some of his opponents. Kobe is still one of the best defender's at his position imo. Not in the same mold of a Bruce Bowen/ Ron Artest imo but those players don't have to put up 20-30 points a night for their team to win like Kobe will have to this year imo.

            I mean no one any disrespect.
            EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469
                #154
                Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                I dont have it Ninja.. a buddy of mine at another board has kobe gifs all the time, including that one but he changes avatars like socks. And oh yea, it wasnt a spin off, he just drove right by him

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469
                    #155
                    Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                    I dont have it Ninja.. a buddy of mine at another board has kobe gifs all the time, including that one but he changes avatars like socks. And oh yea, it wasnt a spin off, he just drove right by him

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                      • Dynasty4Kobe
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 2769
                        #156
                        Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                        Here's the Kobe Bryant: DEFENSE Video by Lakeshow09 from clublakers.com. Definetly one of my favorites.


                        Just a warning: The video does contain vulgar lyrics in the background (it's Ludacris, what do you expect?). So just a heads up incase any young ones are gonna be around you at the time.

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                          • Dynasty4Kobe
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 2769
                            #157
                            Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                            Here's the Kobe Bryant: DEFENSE Video by Lakeshow09 from clublakers.com. Definetly one of my favorites.


                            Just a warning: The video does contain vulgar lyrics in the background (it's Ludacris, what do you expect?). So just a heads up incase any young ones are gonna be around you at the time.

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                              • charles167
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 890
                                #158
                                Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                                Originally posted by Streets Disciple

                                HOWEVER When the issue of Hip Hop came into play, Kobe said he heard the line Jadakiss said about him and it didnt affect him, just saying he liked that song, and he likes Jadakiss as a Emcee.

                                BUT when asked about the "These Our Heroes " track he said he has not heard it yet, but his people have , and he said Quote "If this was 10 years ago maybe i would've cared,and said Nas is no "Marcus Garvey" himself saying Nas had a baby out of wedlock and he doesnt have the right to speak"
                                Just thought about this. Nas is one of the most respect (if not most talented) MCs/Rappers/Hip Hop Artist of all time. To say you havent heard one of his songs and call your self a fan of hip hop in the same sentence is just nuts. Even Jay-Z a known foe of Nas listens to his music. Its like saying you like the NBA but never heard of Jordan. Kobe is denial.

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                                  • charles167
                                    Banned
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 890
                                    #159
                                    Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                                    Originally posted by Streets Disciple

                                    HOWEVER When the issue of Hip Hop came into play, Kobe said he heard the line Jadakiss said about him and it didnt affect him, just saying he liked that song, and he likes Jadakiss as a Emcee.

                                    BUT when asked about the "These Our Heroes " track he said he has not heard it yet, but his people have , and he said Quote "If this was 10 years ago maybe i would've cared,and said Nas is no "Marcus Garvey" himself saying Nas had a baby out of wedlock and he doesnt have the right to speak"
                                    Just thought about this. Nas is one of the most respect (if not most talented) MCs/Rappers/Hip Hop Artist of all time. To say you havent heard one of his songs and call your self a fan of hip hop in the same sentence is just nuts. Even Jay-Z a known foe of Nas listens to his music. Its like saying you like the NBA but never heard of Jordan. Kobe is denial.

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                                      • King McIntyre
                                        Banned
                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 154
                                        #160
                                        Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                                        Originally posted by charles167
                                        Just thought about this. Nas is one of the most respect (if not most talented) MCs/Rappers/Hip Hop Artist of all time. To say you havent heard one of his songs and call your self a fan of hip hop in the same sentence is just nuts. Even Jay-Z a known foe of Nas listens to his music. Its like saying you like the NBA but never heard of Jordan. Kobe is denial.
                                        When the questioned him, Nas' CD had just dropped...which reminds me, I have to go cop the retail myself...so he may not have heard it at the time. Nas is well respected, but is also well known for his contradictions...no man should judge another, only God can judge.

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                                          • King McIntyre
                                            Banned
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 154
                                            #161
                                            Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                                            Originally posted by charles167
                                            Just thought about this. Nas is one of the most respect (if not most talented) MCs/Rappers/Hip Hop Artist of all time. To say you havent heard one of his songs and call your self a fan of hip hop in the same sentence is just nuts. Even Jay-Z a known foe of Nas listens to his music. Its like saying you like the NBA but never heard of Jordan. Kobe is denial.
                                            When the questioned him, Nas' CD had just dropped...which reminds me, I have to go cop the retail myself...so he may not have heard it at the time. Nas is well respected, but is also well known for his contradictions...no man should judge another, only God can judge.

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                                              • charles167
                                                Banned
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 890
                                                #162
                                                Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                                                Originally posted by King McIntyre
                                                When the questioned him, Nas' CD had just dropped...which reminds me, I have to go cop the retail myself...so he may not have heard it at the time. Nas is well respected, but is also well known for his contradictions...no man should judge another, only God can judge.
                                                Very true, but some things in life have already been judged.

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                                                  • charles167
                                                    Banned
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 890
                                                    #163
                                                    Re: Kobe speaks on Ray Allen, Shaq, and NaS (a must read)

                                                    Originally posted by King McIntyre
                                                    When the questioned him, Nas' CD had just dropped...which reminds me, I have to go cop the retail myself...so he may not have heard it at the time. Nas is well respected, but is also well known for his contradictions...no man should judge another, only God can judge.
                                                    Very true, but some things in life have already been judged.

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