10/16 - 10/22 Games Discussion Thread

[kenn5373]

10/16 - 10/22 Games Discussion Thread

Spot on, it's not like the season is 82 games, so they definitely don't have time to figure it out and should definitely react after the first game of the year against last year's 3 seed.

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Ok, leave the team just as is for the whole season and we'll see how it works out. I didn't say blow up the whole team and get nothing but sharpshooters. But if you think this team will be successful shooting 24% from 3 then you got it.

And saying the Blazers were a 3 seed isn't saying much. They were 2 losses away from the 8 seed and got swept in the 1st round.

[MaximumChaos84]

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Lebron is gonna get a wake up call in the West if his team cannot beat Portland.

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[TheFinalEvent97]

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Ok, leave the team just as is for the whole season and we'll see how it works out. I didn't say blow up the whole team and get nothing but sharpshooters. But if you think this team will be successful shooting 24% from 3 then you got it.

And saying the Blazers were a 3 seed isn't saying much. They were 2 losses away from the 8 seed and got swept in the 1st round.

They're not going to shoot 24% from 3 for the season, they shot 34.5% last season, 2nd worst in the league
LeBron 0-4
Ingram 0-4
Kuzma 1-7
That's not going to happen very often.

[jeebs9]

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They're not going to shoot 24% from 3 for the season, they shot 34.5% last season, 2nd worst in the league
LeBron 0-4
Ingram 0-4
Kuzma 1-7
That's not going to happen very often.

Exactly lol. Before you sign Nick Young... Let's give them a chance lol. Like 30 games..

http://bleacherreport.com/post/trending/a974f2a4-b9f1-4458-8396-b553c81f8f13

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[J_Posse]

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Exactly lol. Before you sign Nick Young... Let's give them a chance lol. Like 30 games..

http://bleacherreport.com/post/trending/a974f2a4-b9f1-4458-8396-b553c81f8f13

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I think his point is that they can't trout out a rotation that lacks even one capable (38% or better) shooter and survive in the modern NBA. Teams break games open with multiple 3 - point threats on the floor.

Even the Spurs, I'm going back to the well again, learned that the hard way the last two seasons. They lacked any consistent, quality outside threats so they brought back Belinelli, jettisoned Parker and will likely play Bertans/Forbes/White (Forbes due to circumstance, TBH) more.

You can maybe get away with this strategy (LOL, didn't Byron Scott get grilled for attempting the same ****) in the regular season, but it isn't coming close to working in the postseason. Especially, when you lack a dominant, minutes eating big man or versatile, athletic ones.

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[lilteapot]

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Lebron is gonna get a wake up call in the West if his team cannot beat Portland.

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What's this mean? We acting like Portland is a bad team lol.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Defense from the first unit looks like it could potentially be pretty strong.. I think that’s going to be a chemistry thing moving forward, they have a lot of strong defenders IMO. Just all need to be on the same page. Bron-BI-McGee trio was disruptive as hell to start this game.

I’ll be interested to see what the outside shooting looks like 15-20 games in. This game doesn’t feel like a very good indication of their shooting IMO. They are definitely missing a specialist though, unless Svi gets minutes.

They should be better from 3 this year than last year, and the difference in team shooting is massively overstated. Example, GS lead the league last year at 39% on about 11 makes, the Lakers were 2nd to last at 35% and 10 makes. Houston is really the only team taking enough to create any sort of massive separation.. Kuzma, Ingram, KCP, Bron, Hart could all be around 40% once they get their rhythm going.. shouldn’t be a big problem IMO.

40% from 3 each or as a team?

[Vni]

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Nick Young our savior. Seriously though Hart is a gem.

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[cima]

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I think his point is that they can't trout out a rotation that lacks even one capable (38% or better) shooter and survive in the modern NBA. Teams break games open with multiple 3 - point threats on the floor.

Even the Spurs, I'm going back to the well again, learned that the hard way the last two seasons. They lacked any consistent, quality outside threats so they brought back Belinelli, jettisoned Parker and will likely play Bertans/Forbes/White (Forbes due to circumstance, TBH) more.

You can maybe get away with this strategy (LOL, didn't Byron Scott get grilled for attempting the same ****) in the regular season, but it isn't coming close to working in the postseason. Especially, when you lack a dominant, minutes eating big man or versatile, athletic ones.

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I'm confident both Hart and Kuzma will be able to stay around that 38% mark. Hell Ingram shot 39% last year.

They will be fine. Let's not forget the Heatles were 9-8 their first season together. The 2015 Cavs were 20-20 after their first 40 games.

These Lakers will be fine. Maybe they do end up trading for another shooter down the road, it wouldn't surprise me. But last night's shooting is going to be an outlier, not the norm.

I'm personally more concerned about their rebounding than their shooting. Relying on LeBron and McGee long-term isn't a reliable recipe for success, and if McGee goes down, they are screwed. They really need another viable big more than they need shooting.

[jeebs9]

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I'm confident both Hart and Kuzma will be able to stay around that 38% mark. Hell Ingram shot 39% last year.

They will be fine. Let's not forget the Heatles were 9-8 their first season together. The 2015 Cavs were 20-20 after their first 40 games.

These Lakers will be fine. Maybe they do end up trading for another shooter down the road, it wouldn't surprise me. But last night's shooting is going to be an outlier, not the norm.

I'm personally more concerned about their rebounding than their shooting. Relying on LeBron and McGee long-term isn't a reliable recipe for success, and if McGee goes down, they are screwed. They really need another viable big more than they need shooting.

Thank you and agree!! You just need a few shooters. And the Lakers have that. Do they have a JJ Redick? No... But they don't need one right now?

I felt most of their shoots they missed were opening night nerves.

[ojandpizza]

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40% from 3 each or as a team?

I was talking about each of them from 3, Hart was about 40% last year, Ingram 39%, KCP 38%, Kuzma 37%, Bron 37%.. They could all realistically hover around 40% this year so acting like they don't have a reliable 38% guy based on one game on the road just seemed like a bit of an over exaggeration to me.

Like I said I think the shooting will be more telling 20 or so games into the season.. Or at least until after we have saw a few home games. But I think they definitely need a decent option for a back up big. Wouldn't really help their rebounding issues, but I'm pretty surprised they didn't try to keep Lopez around on at least another 1 year deal. Maybe they feel Mo is the guy, or maybe Magic has some deadline moves in mind, but they might have some issues in the meantime.

Felt like there wasn't near enough of the Brandon Ingram off ball movement last night either. Felt like he got forced into a few awkward post ups which as of now doesn't feel like his game. Those back cuts from the preseason were efficient, and he was getting to the line at what felt like a high rate as well which in turn seemed to get his mid range game going.

[kenn5373]

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I think his point is that they can't trout out a rotation that lacks even one capable (38% or better) shooter and survive in the modern NBA. Teams break games open with multiple 3 - point threats on the floor.

Even the Spurs, I'm going back to the well again, learned that the hard way the last two seasons. They lacked any consistent, quality outside threats so they brought back Belinelli, jettisoned Parker and will likely play Bertans/Forbes/White (Forbes due to circumstance, TBH) more.

You can maybe get away with this strategy (LOL, didn't Byron Scott get grilled for attempting the same ****) in the regular season, but it isn't coming close to working in the postseason. Especially, when you lack a dominant, minutes eating big man or versatile, athletic ones.

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This is exactly my point. People are making it seem like I said release every player they have and sign nothing but shooters. It's clear as day just looking at the roster that shooting is going to be one of their main problems. Just look at the starting lineup alone. Ingram, Rondo, LeBron, and Caldwell Pope are all below 34% from 3 for their career. And saying give them 25-30 games to figure it out is wishful thinking. They'll be at the bottom of the West by then.

On a positive I loved what I saw when they got out and ran. Javale played great but they'll need a back up big man for the games when he gets into early foul trouble.

[Vni]

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Let's not act like this is supposed to be a championship team either. It's flawed in some ways definately but they're gonna be fine. Game was tied at half time with them going 0-15 from deep. We're gonna be ok.

[ProfessaPackMan]

10/16 - 10/22 Games Discussion Thread

I’m glad to see logical folks preaching patience after 1 game.

Because when he was in Cleveland, trade proposals were popping up immediately, lol.

[Vni]

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I’m glad to see logical folks preaching patience after 1 game.

Because when he was in Cleveland, trade proposals were popping up immediately, lol.

It's just game 1, people need to relax.

Game 2 is when heads are gonna roll if they don't correct all their flaws overnight.

One thing I don't think is gonna work is Kuzma at center. Except in very short stints against the right matchups I don't see it. I think it also messes up his entire game.