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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29806

    #1366
    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

    Originally posted by cima
    Thoughts? Real talk and one of the few times Stephen A says something with substance.



    "Stephen A. Smith says Anthony Davis going to the Los Angeles Lakers is unlikely because the league doesn’t want to see LeBron James' agent Rich Paul help trade a player before his contract is up."
    I thought that was a given.

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    • areobee401
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2006
      • 16771

      #1367
      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

      I can see the owners not wanting Rich Paul and the players in general gaining any more control than they already have. I know the tactics used in this particular push to get AD in a Lakers uniform has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. So yeah, it's certainly possible.
      http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29806

        #1368
        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by areobee401
        I can see the owners not wanting Rich Paul and the players in general gaining any more control than they already have. I know the tactics used in this particular push to get AD in a Lakers uniform has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. So yeah, it's certainly possible.
        If I were an owner, and I mentioned this awhile back before this trade even picked up any steam, I would hate the way Paul or any agent would seemingly work his way into trying to have equal to more power than me. I think the league has moved in a positive direction with players having more control/freedom, but at the same time as an owner you would have to feel that there is only a certain extent to that power. Enter an agent now who has an inside track and an advantage because they are working with multiple players, teams, GMs, owners, rather than just one side, they have an advantage. Especially if that agent has multiple elite level clients, and working in the biggest markets in the sport.

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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #1369
          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

          CAA, Excel, Wasserman are way bigger agency's than Klutch, with a lot more players interconnected...

          If there is an actual issue here, maybe it's the public nature of it all, the names in it all, because otherwise, nothing happening here seems all that groundbreaking to me...its a slippery slope for the NBA to meddle in those affairs...

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29806

            #1370
            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            CAA, Excel, Wasserman are way bigger agency's than Klutch, with a lot more players interconnected...

            If there is an actual issue here, maybe it's the public nature of it all, the names in it all, because otherwise, nothing happening here seems all that groundbreaking to me...its a slippery slope for the NBA to meddle in those affairs...
            You know it's not a problem until it's LeBron lol.. That's how it all works.

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #1371
              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
              CAA, Excel, Wasserman are way bigger agency's than Klutch, with a lot more players interconnected...

              If there is an actual issue here, maybe it's the public nature of it all, the names in it all, because otherwise, nothing happening here seems all that groundbreaking to me...its a slippery slope for the NBA to meddle in those affairs...

              None of those agencies have players who have controlling interests in their companies.

              Are we really going to pretend its all the exact same?

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              • DieHardYankee26
                BING BONG
                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #1372
                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                Originally posted by 23
                None of those agencies have players who have controlling interests in their companies.



                Are we really going to pretend its all the exact same?
                According to the NBA, neither does Klutch.
                Originally posted by G Perico
                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #1373
                  Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                  Originally posted by 23
                  None of those agencies have players who have controlling interests in their companies.

                  Are we really going to pretend its all the exact same?
                  Of course we are. That's always what we do when it comes to LeBron. These things just all randomly happen around him that directly affects him all the time and he's innocent.

                  What I wanna know can we start calling Anthony a snake yet? I see nobody has done it, but I see a whole lot more snake behavior happening here than the last couple players that got tagged with it were doing.

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                  • King_B_Mack
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #1374
                    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                    According to the NBA, neither does Klutch.
                    Of course. Rich started the company and got it going all by his lonesome with no involvement with his multimillionaire childhood buddy. Legally, I'm sure LeBron doesn't have his name on anything officially, but it's a little ridiculous to think he doesn't have a specific interest in that company. Hell the show he's producing for Starz loosely based on his life as a hooper has the main character running a sports agency (he's not officially on the books) with his agent/cousin as he's still a superstar player in the basketball league in the show.

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #1375
                      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                      Originally posted by 23
                      None of those agencies have players who have controlling interests in their companies.

                      Are we really going to pretend its all the exact same?
                      The fact LeBron James & Paul are close doesnt break any rules. LeBron doesn't own any interest in Klutch sports. It's funny, The NBA actually investigated this a couple years back to make sure that was the case. Fact is, we can play six degree's of separation all day with these players/ agents if we want.

                      A player demanded a trade at a time that was convenient to his goals...From there, both sides of the situation played to their respective agendas....leaking information for leverage. Not uncharted territory. What's the special set of circumstances here besides LBJ's name itself being involved?

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #1376
                        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        The fact LeBron James & Paul are close doesnt break any rules. LeBron doesn't own any interest in Klutch sports. It's funny, The NBA actually investigated this a couple years back to make sure that was the case. Fact is, we can play six degree's of separation all day with these players/ agents if we want.

                        A player demanded a trade at a time that was convenient to his goals...From there, both sides of the situation played to their respective agendas....leaking information for leverage. Not uncharted territory. What's the special set of circumstances here besides LBJ's name itself being involved?


                        Haha Nobody on the 3rd planet from the sun believes that.

                        See for example, Dan Fegan existed before DeAndre Jordan.

                        If Jordan was to disappear from off the face of the planet, Dan would still be around.

                        There is no Rich Paul without LeBron James. If James were to vanish, so would Paul.

                        For me to sit here and say they are not interconnected (just because they know eachother), I'd be on here telling a bald headed lie.

                        But


                        If you say so my friend

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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29806

                          #1377
                          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                          Originally posted by 23
                          If James were to vanish, so would Paul.
                          Why would he vanish with AD, Ben Simmons, John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Tristan Thompson, KCP, Nerlens Noel, Morris twins, and others making him millions of dollars?

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                          • ProfessaPackMan
                            Bamma
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #1378
                            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            You know it's not a problem until it's LeBron lol.. That's how it all works.
                            No, it wouldn’t be a problem then since he “doesn’t have an official title like a GM/Coach/President of Klutch Sports Agency”.

                            THATS how it all works[emoji1476]
                            #RespectTheCulture

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #1379
                              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              Why would he vanish with AD, Ben Simmons, John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Tristan Thompson, KCP, Nerlens Noel, Morris twins, and others making him millions of dollars?

                              Why did they sign with him again?

                              24th just gave you a list of more experienced lawyer groups which is plenty enough reason why.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #1380
                                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                                Originally posted by 23
                                Haha Nobody on the 3rd planet from the sun believes that.

                                See for example, Dan Fegan existed before DeAndre Jordan.

                                If Jordan was to disappear from off the face of the planet, Dan would still be around.

                                There is no Rich Paul without LeBron James. If James were to vanish, so would Paul.

                                For me to sit here and say they are not interconnected (just because they know eachother), I'd be on here telling a bald headed lie.

                                But


                                If you say so my friend

                                I hate even arguing anything LBJ related, because the focus is entirely on him and it turns into a pro and anti thing.

                                But OK, LBJ has a hidden stake off paper in Klutch. Maybe similar to certain players and their brothers and uncles who have become their "agents" right?....what advantage does this afford him exactly?

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