11/20 - 11/26 Games Discussion Thread

**ojandpizza** · 11-25-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by dubcity

Honestly, feels like pretty normal draft depth, if you look back and compare to previous drafts. It's assuming a lot to think the majority of these guys are going to develop into more than just quality contributors, at best. Nothing wrong with that, but not an outlier to me.

The past two seasons now have felt like outliers to me. Especially the production some of these guys are having on winning teams. I mean they were just comparing last years draft to Bron’s draft, Kobe’s draft, etc. There isn’t anyone as exciting as Mitchell and maybe nobody does what Tatum did in last years playoffs, but this looks to be just as good/deep as that one.

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**ojandpizza** · 11-25-2018, 10:51 PM

11/20 - 11/26 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan

Is Bagley even playing? I thought Bjelica playing over him was part of the reason for those reports about Joerger’s job being in jeopardy and having issues with the FO?

Yeah, he’s just not starting. I think they like the stretch 4 line-up and that lets Bagley play the 4/5 either one off the bench. Seems like there’s no consistency with how many minutes/touches he gets game to game. But he’s productive with his minutes. 19 & 10 with 2 blocks per 36 on over 50% from the field.

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**dubcity** · 11-25-2018, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by ojandpizza

The past two seasons now have felt like outliers to me. Especially the production some of these guys are having on winning teams. I mean they were just comparing last years draft to Bron’s draft, Kobe’s draft, etc. There isn’t anyone as exciting as Mitchell and maybe nobody does what Tatum did in last years playoffs, but this looks to be just as good/deep as that one.

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I just feel like most drafts are like that. A few stars, and then a bunch of guys who contribute and play decent minutes somewhere. You think these last two drafts are better than 2011? Or 2015? (two draft years I just pulled up at random)

**3304Life** · 11-25-2018, 11:41 PM

11/20 - 11/26 Games Discussion Thread

I think the 2014 draft is the best we’ve had recently. The year before didn’t show any value until Oladipo and Giannis made big steps up but even the second round in 2014 had Clarkson, Jokic, Dinwiddie, Jerami Grant in addition to Embiid in the first round, Lavine etc.

I do like the uprise in talent level in the last couple years though. I think we’re getting more NBA ready prospects coming up. Obviously though you can’t have a draft class stacked with HoFers every year like 2003, where four of the top five are NBA champions and sure fire hall of famers and the other one is Melo.

**DamnYanks2** · 11-25-2018, 11:48 PM

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I need Monk to be more efficient. But this guy is the the ultimate microwave player.

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**DamnYanks2** · 11-26-2018, 12:28 AM

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The west is wild. How bout Tobias Harris the ultimate late bloomer.

The warriors aren't gonna win it all this year. Theres a major shakeup in NBA this year. I truly believe that.

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**ojandpizza** · 11-26-2018, 12:36 AM

11/20 - 11/26 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by dubcity

I just feel like most drafts are like that. A few stars, and then a bunch of guys who contribute and play decent minutes somewhere. You think these last two drafts are better than 2011? Or 2015? (two draft years I just pulled up at random)

2015 absolutely. KAT and Porzingod were great, but Russell under achieved in year 1, Okafor, Henzonja, WCS, Mudiay, Johnson, Frank, Winslow, all looked like they could be bust material in year one. Some of them are playing good now, but nothing like this years rookies or last years rookies as a whole in year 1.

2014 was pretty good, but Embiid didn’t even play. Wiggins/Parker were solid but underachieve their original expectations. Gordon, Exum, Smart, Randle, Stauskas, Vonleh, Payton, McDermott, all didn’t have strong rookie years. Dario didn’t come over yet, James Young was a bust, Payne was ok, Jokic didn’t play until the next season, etc.

2011 was good. Kyrie played well, Williams was a bust based on expectations, Kanter had a weak first year, Thompson was productive but didn’t play like a top 5 pick, or even a first round pick. JV didn’t play that season, Biyombo looked like a bust, Jimmer bust, Klay, Kemba, Knight, Kawhi, weren’t as good as a lot of guys in year 1 from this years and last years class..

So yeah, I think there is a pretty big difference honestly. Some of those guys got a lot better obviously, but just in terms of rookie production I don’t think they were really even all that close overall. Every class will have 2-3 guys, but when you start looking past that and have guys like Lauri last year and Jackson Jr this year, those are the type of players not every draft has. And it feels like both of these classes have had 5-6 of those guys, when someone like Wendell Carter for example might be the 9th-10th best rookie in the class and is much better in year one than Tristan Thompson for example.

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**BleacherBum2310** · 11-26-2018, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by DamnYanks2

The west is wild. How bout Tobias Harris the ultimate late bloomer.

The warriors aren't gonna win it all this year. Theres a major shakeup in NBA this year. I truly believe that.

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if Steph's healthy it's still a wrap. It'll def be tougher though.

**DamnYanks2** · 11-26-2018, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by BleacherBum2310

if Steph's healthy it's still a wrap. It'll def be tougher though.

No doubt that team runs through him. But idk Milwaukee is really good and it's not just Giannis . Its gonna be interesting. I'm also hoping it's a fresh new matchup in the finals this year. Please lol.

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**The 24th Letter** · 11-26-2018, 07:43 AM

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Lol Kawhi got his first tech last night...(regular season)

Pretty bad no call though...

House of Highlights on Instagram: "Kawhi got his first ever regular season technical foul today. 😅"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqoVsHOBJPl/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=jszwv93tdkh8

358K likes, 3,378 comments - houseofhighlights on November 25, 2018: "Kawhi got his first ever regular season technical foul today. 😅".

**jfsolo** · 11-26-2018, 11:17 AM

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That's one of the worst non calls I've ever seen. I feel like the Tech should be rescinded and the refs should get a reprimand instead.

**The 24th Letter** · 11-26-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by jfsolo

That's one of the worst non calls I've ever seen. I feel like the Tech should be rescinded and the refs should get a reprimand instead.

It was rough. Did they just think he opted to drop the ball mid air? Lol

**Fresh Tendrils** · 11-26-2018, 12:35 PM

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I wonder which Wizards team will show up tonight and for which quarters.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 11-26-2018, 12:44 PM

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I’d say that Referee did a great thing.

Tell Canada to show some respek to these great Officials. [emoji1490]

**3304Life** · 11-26-2018, 01:15 PM

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Tell me they didn’t T him for saying “he grabbed my arm”. Please.

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