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  • rbruns
    Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 777

    #61
    Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

    Do you realize that every guy takes pride in his strength. Tell me someone doesn't, and your full of it. so of course there's temptation to lie. People also like to exaggerate. Guess you never heard or realized that before. And there is a definite correlation between size and strength. You're willfully being blind. Ever wonder why the guys that are lineman sized in the NFL lift more on than the dbacks? C'mon. Use your brain here. There is a varation within people of the same size, when it comes to strength, but only within reason. Thats why boxing and powerlifting have weight classes bro. Dude, you're making this way too complicated. I know you want to be right really bad, but all I'm saying is the obvious. When you lift weights, or lift heavy weights, you get bigger, your muscles do. And if you're a big guy, you lift more. If you're a teeny tiny little person, built more like a women, you don't lift much. Sure, Early is probably very strong for his body size, but that's about it. He's not built like Barry Sanders, for his height. Barry was also 5'8", kinda like Earl, who's 5'5". The reason Barry plays pro football and Earl plays basketball is Barry is bigger and stronger than EArl. Barry weighed close to 200 pounds, Early is a buck thirty five. You put Barry in the weight room, next to Earl, I guarantee he'd kill Earl, because he's bigger framed, has bigger muscles, etc. His weight reflects that. And as to your point, saying there are people that weigh 280 that can't lift much. Of course, if you're talking about a coach potato, that has 29 % body fat. No duh. But if you talk about a 280 pound like the guys in the NFL, that weigh that much not because their fat, but because their big boned, big MUSCLED, their gonna lift a lot. Its logic, bro. You can give me examples, but in every case, there's a reason for it. If Earl boykins had muscles like a Barry Sanders, I'd believe you. But Earl doesn't have muscles to prove his a lifter. Like I said, if you lift a lot, your muscles get bigger. You can tell when someone lifts, and lifts a lot, because it's reflected in their MUSCLE MASS. I hate to get technical, but some people just don't understand. Take Gary Trent in the NBA. He obviously lifts a lot, I guarantee you'd agree he lifts 315 +. Why? Because he's a big guy, and has big muscles. I know you get the point, but you're gonna argue anyway. But I'm not gonna just say, Oh ok, you're right. It's not like you've ever spotted Earl before, you're going by what some people say. We'll I know there's people that claim Santa Claus exists too. But unless there's somebody I know that saw Earl lift 315, I'm not gonna believe. Cuz it isn't sane to think that Early lifts that. and my Gary Trent argument proves it. Same for a guy like Jonathon Ogden. According to you, there's a good possibility that Ogden don't lift much. He's only 6'7" and about 350 pounds, but that don't matter, right? Please. Gimme a frickin break.

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    • jmood88
      Sean Payton: Retribution
      • Jul 2003
      • 34639

      #62
      Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

      Originally posted by rbruns
      Do you realize that every guy takes pride in his strength. Tell me someone doesn't, and your full of it. so of course there's temptation to lie. People also like to exaggerate. Guess you never heard or realized that before. And there is a definite correlation between size and strength. You're willfully being blind. Ever wonder why the guys that are lineman sized in the NFL lift more on than the dbacks? C'mon. Use your brain here. There is a varation within people of the same size, when it comes to strength, but only within reason. Thats why boxing and powerlifting have weight classes bro. Dude, you're making this way too complicated. I know you want to be right really bad, but all I'm saying is the obvious. When you lift weights, or lift heavy weights, you get bigger, your muscles do. And if you're a big guy, you lift more. If you're a teeny tiny little person, built more like a women, you don't lift much. Sure, Early is probably very strong for his body size, but that's about it. He's not built like Barry Sanders, for his height. Barry was also 5'8", kinda like Earl, who's 5'5". The reason Barry plays pro football and Earl plays basketball is Barry is bigger and stronger than EArl. Barry weighed close to 200 pounds, Early is a buck thirty five. You put Barry in the weight room, next to Earl, I guarantee he'd kill Earl, because he's bigger framed, has bigger muscles, etc. His weight reflects that. And as to your point, saying there are people that weigh 280 that can't lift much. Of course, if you're talking about a coach potato, that has 29 % body fat. No duh. But if you talk about a 280 pound like the guys in the NFL, that weigh that much not because their fat, but because their big boned, big MUSCLED, their gonna lift a lot. Its logic, bro. You can give me examples, but in every case, there's a reason for it. If Earl boykins had muscles like a Barry Sanders, I'd believe you. But Earl doesn't have muscles to prove his a lifter. Like I said, if you lift a lot, your muscles get bigger. You can tell when someone lifts, and lifts a lot, because it's reflected in their MUSCLE MASS. I hate to get technical, but some people just don't understand. Take Gary Trent in the NBA. He obviously lifts a lot, I guarantee you'd agree he lifts 315 +. Why? Because he's a big guy, and has big muscles. I know you get the point, but you're gonna argue anyway. But I'm not gonna just say, Oh ok, you're right. It's not like you've ever spotted Earl before, you're going by what some people say. We'll I know there's people that claim Santa Claus exists too. But unless there's somebody I know that saw Earl lift 315, I'm not gonna believe. Cuz it isn't sane to think that Early lifts that. and my Gary Trent argument proves it. Same for a guy like Jonathon Ogden. According to you, there's a good possibility that Ogden don't lift much. He's only 6'7" and about 350 pounds, but that don't matter, right? Please. Gimme a frickin break.
      You are so wrong it's hilarious and a little bit sad. Give it up. We all know you think that you're right but you aren't. Have fun.
      Originally posted by Blzer
      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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      • jmood88
        Sean Payton: Retribution
        • Jul 2003
        • 34639

        #63
        Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

        Originally posted by rbruns
        Do you realize that every guy takes pride in his strength. Tell me someone doesn't, and your full of it. so of course there's temptation to lie. People also like to exaggerate. Guess you never heard or realized that before. And there is a definite correlation between size and strength. You're willfully being blind. Ever wonder why the guys that are lineman sized in the NFL lift more on than the dbacks? C'mon. Use your brain here. There is a varation within people of the same size, when it comes to strength, but only within reason. Thats why boxing and powerlifting have weight classes bro. Dude, you're making this way too complicated. I know you want to be right really bad, but all I'm saying is the obvious. When you lift weights, or lift heavy weights, you get bigger, your muscles do. And if you're a big guy, you lift more. If you're a teeny tiny little person, built more like a women, you don't lift much. Sure, Early is probably very strong for his body size, but that's about it. He's not built like Barry Sanders, for his height. Barry was also 5'8", kinda like Earl, who's 5'5". The reason Barry plays pro football and Earl plays basketball is Barry is bigger and stronger than EArl. Barry weighed close to 200 pounds, Early is a buck thirty five. You put Barry in the weight room, next to Earl, I guarantee he'd kill Earl, because he's bigger framed, has bigger muscles, etc. His weight reflects that. And as to your point, saying there are people that weigh 280 that can't lift much. Of course, if you're talking about a coach potato, that has 29 % body fat. No duh. But if you talk about a 280 pound like the guys in the NFL, that weigh that much not because their fat, but because their big boned, big MUSCLED, their gonna lift a lot. Its logic, bro. You can give me examples, but in every case, there's a reason for it. If Earl boykins had muscles like a Barry Sanders, I'd believe you. But Earl doesn't have muscles to prove his a lifter. Like I said, if you lift a lot, your muscles get bigger. You can tell when someone lifts, and lifts a lot, because it's reflected in their MUSCLE MASS. I hate to get technical, but some people just don't understand. Take Gary Trent in the NBA. He obviously lifts a lot, I guarantee you'd agree he lifts 315 +. Why? Because he's a big guy, and has big muscles. I know you get the point, but you're gonna argue anyway. But I'm not gonna just say, Oh ok, you're right. It's not like you've ever spotted Earl before, you're going by what some people say. We'll I know there's people that claim Santa Claus exists too. But unless there's somebody I know that saw Earl lift 315, I'm not gonna believe. Cuz it isn't sane to think that Early lifts that. and my Gary Trent argument proves it. Same for a guy like Jonathon Ogden. According to you, there's a good possibility that Ogden don't lift much. He's only 6'7" and about 350 pounds, but that don't matter, right? Please. Gimme a frickin break.
        You are so wrong it's hilarious and a little bit sad. Give it up. We all know you think that you're right but you aren't. Have fun.
        Originally posted by Blzer
        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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        • Brankles
          Banned
          • May 2003
          • 5113

          #64
          Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

          Strength is overrated.

          I say that because I don't like lifting weights.




          Holla

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          • Brankles
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 5113

            #65
            Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

            Strength is overrated.

            I say that because I don't like lifting weights.




            Holla

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            • rbruns
              Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 777

              #66
              Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

              Nice comeback, jmood. You really convinced me with that "you are so wrong it's hilarious. Just give it up," thread. I could have said the same thing about you.

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              • rbruns
                Banned
                • Oct 2002
                • 777

                #67
                Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                Nice comeback, jmood. You really convinced me with that "you are so wrong it's hilarious. Just give it up," thread. I could have said the same thing about you.

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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #68
                  Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                  Originally posted by rbruns
                  Nice comeback, jmood. You really convinced me with that "you are so wrong it's hilarious. Just give it up," thread. I could have said the same thing about you.
                  I didn't make a seperate thread to post that, what are you talking about? You are wrong and I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you since you don't want to listen to anything that anyone has to say.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #69
                    Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                    Originally posted by rbruns
                    Nice comeback, jmood. You really convinced me with that "you are so wrong it's hilarious. Just give it up," thread. I could have said the same thing about you.
                    I didn't make a seperate thread to post that, what are you talking about? You are wrong and I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you since you don't want to listen to anything that anyone has to say.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • rbruns
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 777

                      #70
                      Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                      Let's just forget it. It's Christmas and I don't care what lil Earl can bench. All I care about it Christmas food and Shaq vs. Kobe, Lakers vs. Heat. It's on.

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                      • rbruns
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 777

                        #71
                        Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                        Let's just forget it. It's Christmas and I don't care what lil Earl can bench. All I care about it Christmas food and Shaq vs. Kobe, Lakers vs. Heat. It's on.

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                        • nbasuperstar40
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 1255

                          #72
                          Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                          Earl is wayyy bigger then my friend who i'm bigger then, but he benches 260 and i bench 150 so more how your body frame like.

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                          • nbasuperstar40
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 1255

                            #73
                            Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                            Earl is wayyy bigger then my friend who i'm bigger then, but he benches 260 and i bench 150 so more how your body frame like.

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                            • rbruns
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 777

                              #74
                              Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                              Really. LMFAO. So that makes him about 4'9", and 76 pounds. And he benches 260. Right.

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                              • rbruns
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 777

                                #75
                                Re: Earl Boykins vs Shaq

                                Really. LMFAO. So that makes him about 4'9", and 76 pounds. And he benches 260. Right.

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