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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #121
    Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Vni
    As long as Ingram plays he's the second worst player.
    Originally posted by Themayorofawsometown
    That title belongs to James Johnson

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    Of the Heat? If so. I don't agree.
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    • Themayorofawsometown
      Pro
      • Sep 2015
      • 1101

      #122
      Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by jeebs9
      Of the Heat? If so. I don't agree.
      Are you asking if JJ is the worst player on the heat or the league? Because he absolutely ruins this team and destroys Justise every time he and Dion are on the court

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      • areobee401
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2006
        • 16771

        #123
        Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
        Baynes is clearly the savior. they tried harder the bench wasn't a blackhole mainly because Rozier was out and they couldn't make a shot. This is really fun!



        Please continue to start Morris. That seems to be working. people think it's Hayward taking the shine off of Jaylen when in reality it's Morris.

        Morris has been bad as of late, but Hayward is pathetic. The guy has no business playing anywhere near the minutes he does right now. Could someone please explain to me what Hayward provides out there that Ojeleye can’t?
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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #124
          Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          Yeah he’s been sitting 4th quarters ever since he came back from the trade rumors. I forget who they beat immediately after the deadline, but they closed that game out without him on the floor.


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          Ever since he got hurt before the all Star break

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          • AlexBrady
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 3341

            #125
            Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Smallville102001
            lol I would not go that Far VC is a great example of not knowing when to retire should have retired like 2-3 years ago.
            Agreed. At this point, Carter sees and knows all but simply can't deliver the goods.

            Even in his prime he was likely never a top 20 player at any point. His size and elite skills made for great numbers and highlight reels but he was much more style than substance. His perimeter shooting was shaky yet he constantly tossed up long balls. He could be rendered impotent when forced left and he avoided contact too much on the drive. On defense he made a lot of mistakes away from the ball. Worst of all he was a choke artist in the clutch.

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            • King_B_Mack
              All Star
              • Jan 2009
              • 24450

              #126
              Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

              Prime Vince Carter never a top 20 player at any point? Yeah I’m gonna have to get my thoughts together and recall all his years, but just at first thought off the top of my head, that’s a ridiculous and way off statement


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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #127
                Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                I think that's a tad unfair to Vince.. He was never a super-duper star by any means, but likely cracked top 20ish for the prime portion of his career. That said, league wide top-level talent in that run wasn't nearly what it was a few years before Vince, or what it was after his prime years up to now. So he landed in a relatively weak spot for his best seasons.. But outside of the elite guys he's competing in a range with players like Redd, Mashburn, Maggette, J O'Neal, Marbury, Francis, R Lewis, R Allen, Bibby, J-Rich, Brand, Stackhouse, Glenn Robinson, etc..

                It's hard to put an exact number on a player when not all players have the same role or situation. But if we are looking at a window, say from 2000-2007-ish, there is absolutely not 20 players who were better than him for that 7 year run, even if you could say well this year he was 22nd, this year 24th, or whatever.

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                • TMagic
                  G.O.A.T.
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 7550

                  #128
                  Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                  Who cares. His cousin was way better anyway
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                  • BleacherBum2310
                    All Star
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 7107

                    #129
                    Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by areobee401
                    Morris has been bad as of late, but Hayward is pathetic. The guy has no business playing anywhere near the minutes he does right now. Could someone please explain to me what Hayward provides out there that Ojeleye can’t?
                    Morris has been much worse than just bad of late. Everyone knew he wasn't going to shoot this well for the entire season and when that goes out his game can look really ugly. Much better to deal with those ups and downs as a 6th man of the bench guy. Semi is only good if you need a different look like on Giannis for example or someone else because he is a good defender 1 on 1 otherwise he stinks. Like cmon. Like I know these last 3 games from Hayward have been dreadful which stinks because he was trending up before the break but not at that level.
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                    • 3304Life
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 3002

                      #130
                      Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                      Definitely top 20 for the last few years in Toronto and first couple in NJ. Whether that’s because he was so good or that there was such a lack of bona fide stars in the immediate post-Jordan era I don’t know. The early 2000s really were not all that outside of the Lakers.

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                      • AlexBrady
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3341

                        #131
                        Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by 3304Life
                        Definitely top 20 for the last few years in Toronto and first couple in NJ. Whether that’s because he was so good or that there was such a lack of bona fide stars in the immediate post-Jordan era I don’t know. The early 2000s really were not all that outside of the Lakers.
                        The NBA was stronger then than it is now.

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                        • 3304Life
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 3002

                          #132
                          Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                          And right now we have maybe three or four superstars. The NBA isn’t very strong right now and a lot of the talent pool is concentrated onto one team. I’m not arguing that today’s NBA is stronger, but the early 2000s were a weak point.

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                          • jb12780
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 10665

                            #133
                            Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                            The first post of this thread popped up on my feed. The Knicks equaling stinky Duquan [emoji3517][emoji23].


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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #134
                              Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                              No VC Nets slander, please.

                              Only VC Raptors slander because...Canada.

                              Same with TMac just to piss TMagic off.
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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47568

                                #135
                                Re: 2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by TMagic
                                Who cares. His cousin was way better anyway
                                hahaha Saw this coming
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