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  • Shakedowncapo
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 4031

    #31
    Re: Is there any question who the future is?

    Not to start a war but if you think about it Wade has to spread the ball around more...Shaq needs his touches, D.Jones needs his 3's, and Eddy, well eddy needs his touches too(i guess)...

    I just think hes getting overlooked again...

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    • Jimplication
      MVP
      • Aug 2004
      • 3591

      #32
      Re: Is there any question who the future is?

      Originally posted by Shakedowncapo
      Not to start a war but if you think about it Wade has to spread the ball around more...Shaq needs his touches, D.Jones needs his 3's, and Eddy, well eddy needs his touches too(i guess)...

      I just think hes getting overlooked again...
      I agree, and this is also what I'm trying to say.

      Wade has talent around him, so he has more responsability to share the ball and implement his teammates. This is a good thing though!

      Lebron has a mediocre team, so he has the ability to keep the ball more and do more with the ball, because it's expected for him to carry the team offensively. Whereas Wade has other players on the team to implement into the teams success.

      The Cavs are a much worse team without Lebron than the Heat are without Wade.
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      • Jimplication
        MVP
        • Aug 2004
        • 3591

        #33
        Re: Is there any question who the future is?

        Originally posted by Shakedowncapo
        Not to start a war but if you think about it Wade has to spread the ball around more...Shaq needs his touches, D.Jones needs his 3's, and Eddy, well eddy needs his touches too(i guess)...

        I just think hes getting overlooked again...
        I agree, and this is also what I'm trying to say.

        Wade has talent around him, so he has more responsability to share the ball and implement his teammates. This is a good thing though!

        Lebron has a mediocre team, so he has the ability to keep the ball more and do more with the ball, because it's expected for him to carry the team offensively. Whereas Wade has other players on the team to implement into the teams success.

        The Cavs are a much worse team without Lebron than the Heat are without Wade.
        Enjoy football? Enjoy Goal Line Blitz!

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        • Tmacattack
          Pro
          • Feb 2003
          • 872

          #34
          Re: Is there any question who the future is?

          Originally posted by Slip
          Wade is a much better scorer in terms of efficiency(49 % to 40 %),
          ---------------------------------------------

          This isnt the point of the thread but is it fair to compare those particular numbers when Wade has a player like Shaq on his team? Again, its not the point of the thread but you brought it up and it doesnt seem right since of course Wade is gonna shoot a high percentage with Shaq on the team.
          no ones shootin 40% brons shootin 49, unless theres something i missed

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          • Tmacattack
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 872

            #35
            Re: Is there any question who the future is?

            Originally posted by Slip
            Wade is a much better scorer in terms of efficiency(49 % to 40 %),
            ---------------------------------------------

            This isnt the point of the thread but is it fair to compare those particular numbers when Wade has a player like Shaq on his team? Again, its not the point of the thread but you brought it up and it doesnt seem right since of course Wade is gonna shoot a high percentage with Shaq on the team.
            no ones shootin 40% brons shootin 49, unless theres something i missed

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            • rbruns
              Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 777

              #36
              Re: Is there any question who the future is?

              Yeah, what's up with saying Lebron is shooting 40 %, he's shooting 49 %. Why do people got to lie to support their argument. Nobody that does basketball for a living suggests Wade is as good as Lebron. Wade is a great slasher, and scorer, and passer. But he also has to go 1 on 1, b/c Shaq is so d8mn good. If you need further proof, look at Kobe's decline, specifically his shooting %. Wade shot 46.5 % yes, but he wasn't scoring 23-24 points last year. It's easy to figure Shaq has a major impact on Wade's success. It's like a dog returning to his own vomit. Shaq has always helped his guards, penny, kobe, now wade. At each stop, Shaq has left and the guard hasn't been quite the same. Now Shaq gets paired with Wade and Wade is suddenly a superstar. Wade was a very good player before, but there is no question he is GREAT when paired w/Shaq. Lebron simply doesn't have that advantage. As far as Wade not having the ball as much as Lebron, that is a lie. Wade is point guard and has the ball on EVERY play for Miami. Lebron is a 3, and the ball is most often in McInnis hand. Where do people come up with this stuff. This isn't even fair. People just say stuff not true to make their guy look better. Dwayne is point, he has the ball 80 % of the time, Lebron is a 3, and McInnis often directs the offense, Lebron gets the ball if the shotclock winds down, or the Cavs have to be bailed out. Lebron doesn't have the ball near as much, so if you wanna argue Lebron's #'s would be better, go ahead, I never said it, but you said it, since you think Dwayne is better.

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              • rbruns
                Banned
                • Oct 2002
                • 777

                #37
                Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                Yeah, what's up with saying Lebron is shooting 40 %, he's shooting 49 %. Why do people got to lie to support their argument. Nobody that does basketball for a living suggests Wade is as good as Lebron. Wade is a great slasher, and scorer, and passer. But he also has to go 1 on 1, b/c Shaq is so d8mn good. If you need further proof, look at Kobe's decline, specifically his shooting %. Wade shot 46.5 % yes, but he wasn't scoring 23-24 points last year. It's easy to figure Shaq has a major impact on Wade's success. It's like a dog returning to his own vomit. Shaq has always helped his guards, penny, kobe, now wade. At each stop, Shaq has left and the guard hasn't been quite the same. Now Shaq gets paired with Wade and Wade is suddenly a superstar. Wade was a very good player before, but there is no question he is GREAT when paired w/Shaq. Lebron simply doesn't have that advantage. As far as Wade not having the ball as much as Lebron, that is a lie. Wade is point guard and has the ball on EVERY play for Miami. Lebron is a 3, and the ball is most often in McInnis hand. Where do people come up with this stuff. This isn't even fair. People just say stuff not true to make their guy look better. Dwayne is point, he has the ball 80 % of the time, Lebron is a 3, and McInnis often directs the offense, Lebron gets the ball if the shotclock winds down, or the Cavs have to be bailed out. Lebron doesn't have the ball near as much, so if you wanna argue Lebron's #'s would be better, go ahead, I never said it, but you said it, since you think Dwayne is better.

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                • Tmacattack
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 872

                  #38
                  Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                  Originally posted by rbruns
                  Yeah, what's up with saying Lebron is shooting 40 %, he's shooting 49 %. Why do people got to lie to support their argument. Nobody that does basketball for a living suggests Wade is as good as Lebron. Wade is a great slasher, and scorer, and passer. But he also has to go 1 on 1, b/c Shaq is so d8mn good. If you need further proof, look at Kobe's decline, specifically his shooting %. Wade shot 46.5 % yes, but he wasn't scoring 23-24 points last year. It's easy to figure Shaq has a major impact on Wade's success. It's like a dog returning to his own vomit. Shaq has always helped his guards, penny, kobe, now wade. At each stop, Shaq has left and the guard hasn't been quite the same. Now Shaq gets paired with Wade and Wade is suddenly a superstar. Wade was a very good player before, but there is no question he is GREAT when paired w/Shaq. Lebron simply doesn't have that advantage. As far as Wade not having the ball as much as Lebron, that is a lie. Wade is point guard and has the ball on EVERY play for Miami. Lebron is a 3, and the ball is most often in McInnis hand. Where do people come up with this stuff. This isn't even fair. People just say stuff not true to make their guy look better. Dwayne is point, he has the ball 80 % of the time, Lebron is a 3, and McInnis often directs the offense, Lebron gets the ball if the shotclock winds down, or the Cavs have to be bailed out. Lebron doesn't have the ball near as much, so if you wanna argue Lebron's #'s would be better, go ahead, I never said it, but you said it, since you think Dwayne is better.
                  maybe he just made a mistake, no reason to accuse the man of lying to manipulate the arguement, coulda been a typo

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                  • Tmacattack
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 872

                    #39
                    Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                    Originally posted by rbruns
                    Yeah, what's up with saying Lebron is shooting 40 %, he's shooting 49 %. Why do people got to lie to support their argument. Nobody that does basketball for a living suggests Wade is as good as Lebron. Wade is a great slasher, and scorer, and passer. But he also has to go 1 on 1, b/c Shaq is so d8mn good. If you need further proof, look at Kobe's decline, specifically his shooting %. Wade shot 46.5 % yes, but he wasn't scoring 23-24 points last year. It's easy to figure Shaq has a major impact on Wade's success. It's like a dog returning to his own vomit. Shaq has always helped his guards, penny, kobe, now wade. At each stop, Shaq has left and the guard hasn't been quite the same. Now Shaq gets paired with Wade and Wade is suddenly a superstar. Wade was a very good player before, but there is no question he is GREAT when paired w/Shaq. Lebron simply doesn't have that advantage. As far as Wade not having the ball as much as Lebron, that is a lie. Wade is point guard and has the ball on EVERY play for Miami. Lebron is a 3, and the ball is most often in McInnis hand. Where do people come up with this stuff. This isn't even fair. People just say stuff not true to make their guy look better. Dwayne is point, he has the ball 80 % of the time, Lebron is a 3, and McInnis often directs the offense, Lebron gets the ball if the shotclock winds down, or the Cavs have to be bailed out. Lebron doesn't have the ball near as much, so if you wanna argue Lebron's #'s would be better, go ahead, I never said it, but you said it, since you think Dwayne is better.
                    maybe he just made a mistake, no reason to accuse the man of lying to manipulate the arguement, coulda been a typo

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                    • rbruns
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 777

                      #40
                      Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                      my bad, I probably overreacted & he was mistaken.

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                      • rbruns
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 777

                        #41
                        Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                        my bad, I probably overreacted & he was mistaken.

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                        • Slip
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1526

                          #42
                          Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                          Actually, I was quoting YOU rbruns, when I posted the shooting percentages.

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                          • Slip
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1526

                            #43
                            Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                            Actually, I was quoting YOU rbruns, when I posted the shooting percentages.

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                            • Shakedowncapo
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 4031

                              #44
                              Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                              Just to correct you, Wade plays the 2...not the 1

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                              • Shakedowncapo
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 4031

                                #45
                                Re: Is there any question who the future is?

                                Just to correct you, Wade plays the 2...not the 1

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