2019 Offseason Thread

[Majingir]

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Question for you guys: Is this Lakers team the most talented team that LeBron has played on?

Bench still has to be filled out. But starting lineup wise probably is. Are Green,Kuzma,AD,Cousins better than:
Wade,Bosh,Chalmers,Haslem
or
Kyrie,Love,Smith,Mozgov

I'd take AD over Bosh/Love, Wade/Kyrie over Kuzma, Green over Smith/Chalmers and Cousins over Haslem/Mozgov. Although I'd also take those era Lebron over LAL Lebron.

[Smallville102001]

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Question for you guys: Just in terms of the players they added, is this Lakers team the most talented team that LeBron has played on?

Not sure but I would say AD is the best player he has played with though has Wade was starting to decline already with injures when James played with him even though Wade was still really good.

[Master Live 013]

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Presumably the Clippers knew this when they signed him. So he will get paid exactly what he signed for and miss at least 10 games or so for load management. Nobody got duped here.

[ojandpizza]

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Question for you guys: Just in terms of the players they added, is this Lakers team the most talented team that LeBron has played on?

It’s really tough to say until we see where Boogie, and to a lesser extent AB, are at. I would say no, but Anthony Davis has a chance to be the best player in terms of complimentary to each other that he’s played with.

Also need to see how much, if any, Kuzma and KCP have improved. Both of them are still so young. KCP was a career high last year in terms of per 36, he just spilt a lot of time with other players. If he ever gets to the point that he’s consistent, and stays improving, he could be a much more reliable option than the JR Smith, washed up Ray Allen type of teammates.

Could definitely end up being the best coached..


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[Majingir]

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If that is true he shouldn't be getting paid what he gets paid then. Yeah he is great but you cant miss like 1/4 of the season with out having a injury and be getting paid top amount. If you are going to sit him like 20 games a year what happend when he gets a real injury and misses 10 games? Now all of a sudden you have missed 30 out of 82 games.

That's another confusing part to all of it as well. He left Spurs over mistrust in medical staff. Raptors went above and beyond and did everything to actually keep him healthy all season and only missed 6 games all season that weren't 1st and/or 2nd of a back to back. As much as he wanted to go home, how good will the medical staff be like with Clippers?

If he doesn't play a single back to back, that's about 69 games he's playing. If he's injured, like you said, that could be another few games he's missing, meaning about a quarter of the games.

Though if he does what he does in playoffs, who cares how many regular season games he plays. A playoff injury to him though would just be a disaster.

[ojandpizza]

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Presumably the Clippers knew this when they signed him. So he will get paid exactly what he signed for and miss at least 10 games or so for load management. Nobody got duped here.

If that is true he shouldn't be getting paid what he gets paid then. Yeah he is great but you cant miss like 1/4 of the season with out having a injury and be getting paid top amount. If you are going to sit him like 20 games a year what happend when he gets a real injury and misses 10 games? Now all of a sudden you have missed 30 out of 82 games.

Basically he’s being paid for the playoffs. His maintenance games for rest aren’t going to be an issue. I think everyone is aware and part of the reason Kawhi was telling teams he wants to bring his medical staff with him wherever he went.


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[Smallville102001]

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It’s really tough to say until we see where Boogie, and to a lesser extent AB, are at. I would say no, but Anthony Davis has a chance to be the best player in terms of complimentary to each other that he’s played with.

Also need to see how much, if any, Kuzma and KCP have improved. Both of them are still so young. KCP was a career high last year in terms of per 36, he just spilt a lot of time with other players. If he ever gets to the point that he’s consistent, and stays improving, he could be a much more reliable option than the JR Smith, washed up Ray Allen type of teammates.

Could definitely end up being the best coached..


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Yeah Kuzma and Cousins I think are the 2 keys to how far the lakers go. I think Kuzma can be all star type of player. I mean some one who either makes the all star team or who you could make a case should have if he dosnt type of player. Cousins I dont known how good he can be. He was looking pretty good in regular season before he got hurt again, and you would think he was only going to get better before he got hurt again. Kind of reminds me of Kobe even though he was older Kobe started looking like he might come back from the injury and be great again but than got hurt again right when it looked like he was getting good again and than wasn't the same after that one. If Cousins can be like 75% of what he was and Kuzma can be all star/around all star like I said then I think Lakers win the championship and yes best team James has played on. If Kuzma is around what he was last year and Cousins dosnt get to like 75% of what he was than I say Lakers lose in either second round or conference finals.

[Smallville102001]

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That's another confusing part to all of it as well. He left Spurs over mistrust in medical staff. Raptors went above and beyond and did everything to actually keep him healthy all season and only missed 6 games all season that weren't 1st and/or 2nd of a back to back. As much as he wanted to go home, how good will the medical staff be like with Clippers?

If he doesn't play a single back to back, that's about 69 games he's playing. If he's injured, like you said, that could be another few games he's missing, meaning about a quarter of the games.

Though if he does what he does in playoffs, who cares how many regular season games he plays. A playoff injury to him though would just be a disaster.

Yes a playoff injure of course would be a disaster but the issue is if you dont play him like 13-15 games just for the heck of it that could cost you a few wins and cost you some seeding, and in the long run maybe cost you home court, and maybe be the difference between winning a round in 7 games or losing in 7 games has if two teams are close than home court is likely going to be the difference. With how this offseason has gone to I think eatch game is going to be even more important has the talent difference between playoff teams is going to be less than normal and so home court also will be more important than normal. I would say most seasons there are realistically 5 teams that can win a championship this year its more like 10.

[cima]

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Question for you guys: Just in terms of the players they added, is this Lakers team the most talented team that LeBron has played on?

I think it's fair to say all of his top teams are from this decade. I would probably rank them:

1. '12 Heat
2. '16 Cavs
3. '13 Heat
4. '17 Cavs
5. '15 Cavs
6. '14 Heat
7. '11 Heat
8. '18 Cavs
9. '19 Lakers


'11 Wade to date is still LeBron's best teammate but '20 Davis is likely going to take that throne. If '20 Kuzma breaks out and '20 Cousins regains his form, then yeah this could be his most talented team ever. Time will tell.

[Smallville102001]

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Yeah its hard for me to rank them because I dont always remember who was like on his teams those years besides the other star players and right now a guy like Kuzma is a pretty good rule player but not a star and we dont known about Cousins.

[Majingir]

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Yes a playoff injure of course would be a disaster but the issue is if you dont play him like 13-15 games just for the heck of it that could cost you a few wins and cost you some seeding, and in the long run maybe cost you home court, and maybe be the difference between winning a round in 7 games or losing in 7 games has if two teams are close than home court is likely going to be the difference. With how this offseason has gone to I think eatch game is going to be even more important has the talent difference between playoff teams is going to be less than normal and so home court also will be more important than normal. I would say most seasons there are realistically 5 teams that can win a championship this year its more like 10.

In the west, it's way more important.

In the west this year, 6 games separated 2-8.
In the east, 7 games separated 2 and 3. 3-5 and 6-8 were tight though.

But definitely a bigger drop in west. If Kawhi sits in west, that could make you go from 2 or 3 seed to 5 or 6. In the east, its difference from 1 seed and 3 seed.

[King_B_Mack]

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[AlexBrady]

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I'd take Cousins over Haslem.

Totally disagree here. Haslem was a warrior. He never took plays off. Played ferocious defense and rebounded in traffic like few in the game. His mid-range jumper was deadly as well.

Cousins only plays hard when he either has or is in close proximity to the ball. His defense is horrid and he chokes in the clutch.

[Vni]

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Lots of question marks with the Lakers roster. Such a wide range of possible outcomes.

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[3304Life]

2019 Offseason Thread

Give me the 2015-17 Cavs squads over anything else Bron has ever had.

Kyrie at his peak, JR Smith being a respectable two way player in the 2016 playoffs (people forget he was actually a good defender that year), Kevin Love still being a 20/10 guy despite being a third choice and the perfect kind of Center for a high volume shooting team, Thompson.

Depth was bad and it cost us in 2015 but that starting lineup is better than his Miami lineups and current Lakers team.

The team he had in his final year before Miami was probably top 5 too.


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