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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
    Once in a Lifetime Memory
    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #421
    Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    Curious to hear y’all thoughts on this?






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    None of that is wrong. I’ve long been of the belief that he should just forget about the 3 point shooting. There’s too much broken in his shooting mechanics at this point for me to believe he’ll ever get it right. For me the main things I would like to see him improve on are:

    1. Reading defenses quicker. There’s so many instances where he gets the ball and then just freezes and lets the defense set up their wall and he’s now lost an opportunity at an open driving lane. Likewise when he gets doubled in the post. He’s just generally slow to read what’s happening and missed on the windows of opportunity that those defensive strategies create.

    2. Controlled chaos. He’s so good getting downhill and twisting defenders around on his drives but he really struggles to probe the defense on his drives. With his ability to get to the rim and draw help defenders he should be able to dump passes off underneath for easy buckets or simply go to one of those fade-away runner type shots that would be unblockable for him and be a good counter to all the charge attempts.

    3. Playing without the ball in his hands. Kinda goes hand in hand with his struggles reading defenses but he should be a devastating cutter and lob threat and he just isn’t. He’s also legitimately terrible setting screens.

    4. Free throws. His form is horrendous at the FT line too but in my experience it’s a lot easier to break bad habits on free throws than it is for jumpers. If he can get back to being a 75% shooter and do it consistently, it totally changes the math and makes it a lot harder to have your defensive strategy built around fouling Giannis or trying to draw charges like so many teams do now.


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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
      Once in a Lifetime Memory
      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #422
      2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
      I’m assuming if he rejects the supermax they’re going to trade him so they don’t end up in a Kemba situation but there’s definitely a few ways it could play out.

      I highly highly doubt it but I’ve been wrong before. I suspect they would rather lose him for nothing than throwing away their last chance at winning a title for god knows how long.

      I also tend to think that if he re-signs at all it’ll be a 2 or 3 year deal rather than the supermax.


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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #423
        Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        Curious to hear y’all thoughts on this?






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        I wonder where he's coming from with this.

        His euro step finishes, sometimes though contact as he's taking his first or second step, take an insane amount of footwork. He rebalances and dunks on heads like Shaq after rebounds, lol

        If he's talking about this series in particular he has definitely been thrown off and missed some bunnies with the pressure MIA has put on him.

        but in general, I feel his footwork is on point..

        EDIT: Maybe what I am speaking on should moreso be attributed to strength/balance?

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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #424
          Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          Get the ball out of his hands. With his strides and length, straight pick & rolls to the rim all day.

          If he somehow can manage a 15-footer, that’s icing. Little curls around the FT line.

          But stop having him ISO’d up top all the time.

          Guy is super young. He has time to expand his offensive game.

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          • DieHardYankee26
            BING BONG
            • Feb 2008
            • 10178

            #425
            Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            For all the talk about how egregious it is that Giannis isn’t playing more minutes, I didn’t even notice until going back and looking at the box scores that no one on Miami is playing huge minutes either.
            Originally posted by G Perico
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            • 3304Life
              MVP
              • Sep 2016
              • 3002

              #426
              Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Miami are a sum of their parts kind of deal though. Jimmy is the star of course and is the guy who you want with the ball in the 4th but you’re also liable to get 20 from Dragic or Bam and then even on some nights you’ll get a 15-20 from one or more of Herro, Robinson, Olynyk and Crowder.

              Milwaukee are pretty much Giannis and whoever can hit their shots that night. There’s no real reliable scorer outside of him except Middleton who is shaky when things are tough to say the least.

              Plus I just don’t think they’ve needed anybody to play huge minutes. Their main priority is stopping Giannis and as long as he’s not playing big minutes, none of the Heat need to either.


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              • 3304Life
                MVP
                • Sep 2016
                • 3002

                #427
                Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                By the way when it comes to the idea of Giannis as an off ball player as has been mentioned a little above, i’m not just saying this because Im currently having some kind of affair with the Heat during this bubble, but him in Miami would improve him so much as a player. That organization turned Bron into a player who is now in the GOAT conversation. Without Miami and the improvements he made playing off the ball more, he’s just another ultra talented player who never managed to get over the line.


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                • DieHardYankee26
                  BING BONG
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 10178

                  #428
                  Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  I think you could describe the Bucks pretty much the same way you described the Heat. I feel like the difference is more in execution than you’re making it seem.
                  Originally posted by G Perico
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                  • 3304Life
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 3002

                    #429
                    Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    Probably. I’ve actually just looked and I see Lopez is having a good series in terms of scoring but outside of Giannis and Khris there hasn’t been any consistency from anybody else, whereas the Heat are getting double digits from the same 5 guys every night.


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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #430
                      Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      Giannis is questionable for tomorrow game 4...... If he don't play. Ain't no come back lol
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                      • Master Live 013
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 12368

                        #431
                        Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        Shaq rocking the bling.
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                        • Master Live 013
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 12368

                          #432
                          Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Ms. LaForce is trying too hard with these masks, use the surgical ones.
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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #433
                            Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Master Live 013
                            Ms. LaForce is trying too hard with these masks, use the surgical ones.
                            It was weird.

                            I see it's tied. Raptors can pull it out. Tie up the series.
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                            • Master Live 013
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 12368

                              #434
                              Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              That's right Celtics, keep letting Brown guard Siakam on the post, it has worked well so far.
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                              • dubcity
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • May 2012
                                • 17874

                                #435
                                Re: 2020 Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Holding out hope for a Heat/Nuggets Finals. Would kinda serve the NBA right.

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