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  • ojandpizza
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    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #136
    Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

    Nuggets could easily knock the Lakers out in round 1 if LeBron and AD aren't looking 100% come playoff time. That's going to be a short window for LeBron to work through all his "feel out" games and get back to form, AD this year didn't even look great before the injury and I have no idea if he has that "flip the switch" come playoff time mentality or not considering last year he looked like an MVP level guy most of the season.

    Regardless the Lakers need somebody on the team to do what KCP did last year and just be a steady consistent guy. Can't have the whole roster outside of 2 players being so wildly inconsistent with Rondo gone. Guys don't have to be great, just steady.

    Frank has done a great job defensively with the team both years but his offensive approach is average at best and he treats his line-ups like he's absolutely terrified of having a mediocre defensive unit on the floor but with the hopes of out-gunning the other team... I know they have had injuries but the whole only using Harrell as a backup 5 instead of trying to give him minutes alongside Gasol or Drummond, and going so many games not starting Kuz was so annoying to watch. Yes you want a decent scoring punch off the bench, and you want balanced line-ups and rotations but at some point you also need to score. Never was he using Schroder, Kuz, Harrell, Drummond all on the floor together, 4 guys who can get you 20 any night and would be tough for defenses to focus on any one of them. It's like he's content with every player on the floor being easier to guard for the ever so slight upgrade to his defense and rotation patterns.

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    • cima
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      • Sep 2004
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      #137
      Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

      Vogel's lineups were 100% on point in the playoffs last year after EVERYONE questioning his lineups all regular season. He's the last coach you need to worry about lineups, he will choose the right ones come playoff time.

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      • JazzMan
        SOLDIER, First Class...
        • Feb 2012
        • 13547

        #138
        Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by cima
        With Murray I think they're better than the Suns and could give a Jazz a run for their money. And the Clippers too if PG13 gonna Playoff P...
        Yup, Nuggets with Murray scared me, they were much better than their record suggests. Even without Murray, they still have Jokic who is good enough to will that team to the WCF if he's on a hot streak

        Btw I never want to the play the Wolves again. Thank god they can't make the playoffs because they'd sweep the Jazz

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        • ojandpizza
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          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #139
          Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by cima
          Vogel's lineups were 100% on point in the playoffs last year after EVERYONE questioning his lineups all regular season. He's the last coach you need to worry about lineups, he will choose the right ones come playoff time.

          That might be true but this also isn’t last years roster. His refusal to put his best players on the floor and not even toying with the idea of playing Trez at the 4 alongside their bigs (especially after getting Drummond) has been annoying.

          How many of these injury games did the Lakers start off in huge holes starting Gasol, Morris, Wes because god forbid you have Schroder, Kuz, Harrell start the game together.

          Not a big deal regardless because it won’t matter as much when fully healthy and AD getting more minutes at the 5 come playoff time.. but it’s almost like he just thought he could get by losing both of his top 10 level players by inserting end of the rotation guys instead of giving minutes to guys who could at least somewhat plug the scoring hole.

          Would be like Gobert and Mitchell going down with injury and Utah starting Niang and Oni because they were afraid to lose the scoring punch of Ingles and Clarkson from their bench unit.


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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #140
            Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by cima
            Vogel's lineups were 100% on point in the playoffs last year after EVERYONE questioning his lineups all regular season. He's the last coach you need to worry about lineups, he will choose the right ones come playoff time.
            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            That might be true but this also isn’t last years roster. His refusal to put his best players on the floor and not even toying with the idea of playing Trez at the 4 alongside their bigs (especially after getting Drummond) has been annoying.

            How many of these injury games did the Lakers start off in huge holes starting Gasol, Morris, Wes because god forbid you have Schroder, Kuz, Harrell start the game together.

            Not a big deal regardless because it won’t matter as much when fully healthy and AD getting more minutes at the 5 come playoff time.. but it’s almost like he just thought he could get by losing both of his top 10 level players by inserting end of the rotation guys instead of giving minutes to guys who could at least somewhat plug the scoring hole.

            Would be like Gobert and Mitchell going down with injury and Utah starting Niang and Oni because they were afraid to lose the scoring punch of Ingles and Clarkson from their bench unit.


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            Vogel has definitely gave away games, seemingly "on purpose" by playing a lot of bad lineups, but I agree that I expect that to totally stop happening in the playoffs.
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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #141
              Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

              I feel like you can throw the WC standings out of the window once the playoffs start.

              They have so many teams who can get hot and make a run unlike the East where you kinda know how things will play out for the first couple of rounds.

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              • dubcity
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                • May 2012
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                #142
                Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                OKC are leading in the 4th... time to sub in their head trainer at PG or something.

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #143
                  Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                  Raptors hanging around vs Nets.
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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #144
                    Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                    Are Celtics about to drop one to the OkC? SMH
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                    • jeebs9
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #145
                      Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      Are Celtics about to drop one to the OkC? SMH
                      Oh with that lost. The Nets locked up the 6th seed. Basically playoff berth.
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                      • jeebs9
                        Fear is the Unknown
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 47568

                        #146
                        Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                        Nets with huge plays!!

                        Can't leave KD. Then Lumber Joe gets the charge.
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                        • ProfessaPackMan
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                          • Mar 2008
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                          #147
                          Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                          Good **** Nets

                          Good ****.
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                          • dubcity
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                            • May 2012
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                            #148
                            Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                            Mavs 42
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                            • ojandpizza
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                              • Apr 2011
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                              #149
                              Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                              I feel like you can throw the WC standings out of the window once the playoffs start.

                              They have so many teams who can get hot and make a run unlike the East where you kinda know how things will play out for the first couple of rounds.

                              Said that last year and bam the Heat were in the finals lol


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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47568

                                #150
                                Re: 4/20 - 5/3 Games Discussion Thread

                                Damn Jim Jackson talking about his days with Dallas. But he's totally right. That team never really played with each other.
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