Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #391
    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Vni
    To appease the fans? What has Giannis added to his game the last few years? He still seems very raw. Just because it's enough to be great during the reg season doesn't mean he should be satisfied. He could be tearing the league a part and be the best player in this series if he had a reliable jump shot or more counter but he will most likely be outshined by more polished offensive players like kyrie, durant, harden to name a few. Is it a coincidence that he's been underwhelming the last couple of years in the playoffs ?
    I'm not saying he just doesn't need to get better and improve in all those areas. But the expectation seems to just be "why can't he add a midrange pull-up like Kawhi" and that's most likely just never going to happen. He's never going to be a good enough shooter to just pick a spot, get to it, rise up and connect at a 50% rate all through the playoffs. And even if he somehow does it's not going to happen over night, or the span of 1 off-season.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #392
      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by cima
      Insert Michael Jordan "And I took that personally" meme


      https://twitter.com/GetUpESPN/status...887836678?s=20
      Jay Williams to Durant is what Windhorst is to Lebron.

      Just 2 kiss ***es, my goodness lol. Perkins in that group for them as well.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #393
        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        I'm not saying he just doesn't need to get better and improve in all those areas. But the expectation seems to just be "why can't he add a midrange pull-up like Kawhi" and that's most likely just never going to happen. He's never going to be a good enough shooter to just pick a spot, get to it, rise up and connect at a 50% rate all through the playoffs. And even if he somehow does it's not going to happen over night, or the span of 1 off-season.
        We do this with players and I’ve always found it weird. I remember the “KD needs to put more muscle on/look more leaner so he can bang in the post” debates we used to have here years ago.

        We’re doing it with Giannis and I can see the seeds already being planted for when it’s time to do the same with Luka and his “baby fat” deal, lol.
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • itsmb8
          MVP
          • May 2011
          • 3361

          #394
          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
          Saw this on the Bucks sub lol, they are over Bud


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          Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
          I'd say the majority of Bucks fans have wanted him gone for at least two years now. I don't foresee us being able to upgrade from him, but there aren't many more moves left to be made with this team unfortunately and it clearly isn't good enough as is.
          Its 3 years now. Bucks Reddit and Bucks Twitter started the Fire Bud campaign after Toronto, then Miami last year kicked it into high gear. After these next two games (because Milwaukee is getting swept), itll engulf the entire fanbase.

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          This is hilarious, because that exactly how I sound throughout the entire game yesterday. I was sitting next to these Bucks fans. And my wife was like he kept giving you confusing looks like "You going for Nets or Bucks here?"

          This should of been a better series. And it's the adjustments in my opinion that are hurting the Bucks now the player right now. I'd shorten my rotations and go into a small-ball approach
          Thats never happening, jeebs. Thats not Bud, at all. He's completely unwilling to play guys like Giannis and Khris 40+ minutes and he'll stick to Brook at the starting Center spot until the day he dies. Brook shouldve been traded at least a year ago, but Bud sticks to Brook and Pat even though they cant play for ****.
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          • dfsJunkie
            Pro
            • Apr 2015
            • 852

            #395
            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Giannis is most dangerous when he's rebounding the ball and pushing it up the court. I think by defending KD, it's taking him away from the boards and he can't generate those self-made fast breaks.

            He led the league with 8.2 fast break points per game in the regular season, but in the playoffs, he's averaging less than 4. Combined with the horrific three point shooting of the team, the Bucks haven't had a chance.

            I think they get right at home and start to hit some shots from deep and win at least one game, maybe two in the series before getting eliminated.

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            • dfsJunkie
              Pro
              • Apr 2015
              • 852

              #396
              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by itsmb8
              Brook shouldve been traded at least a year ago, but Bud sticks to Brook and Pat even though they cant play for ****.
              I don't know if I would say Brook is bad. He's completely overpowering anyone on BK down low and can space the floor when needed. He has a pretty nice post game - don't forget he was a 20 ppg scorer before he developed a deep ball. He's never been a great rebounder, but has always been a good rim protector. I just don't think he's utilized properly in Milwaukee.

              I think he's the perfect 5 to complement Giannis when the Giannis thing is working, but right now the Giannis thing really isn't working..

              Side note: Is Jrue Holiday possibly the lite version of CP3? Dude is REALLY solid, even in the postseason.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #397
                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                I don’t even know why Bud insists on leaving Brook in the lineup and putting Giannis on KD anyways. I think their best bet is to go smaller. Giannis should be fine in a small ball 5 matchup with Blake. Let PJ and Middleton guard KD, maybe Giannis in spurts if they bring Portis into the game.

                Just doesn’t make sense. Feels like Bud is sticking to his guns despite that it plays right into BK’s strengths.


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                • dfsJunkie
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 852

                  #398
                  Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ojandpizza
                  I don’t even know why Bud insists on leaving Brook in the lineup and putting Giannis on KD anyways. I think their best bet is to go smaller. Giannis should be fine in a small ball 5 matchup with Blake. Let PJ and Middleton guard KD, maybe Giannis in spurts if they bring Portis into the game.

                  Just doesn’t make sense. Feels like Bud is sticking to his guns despite that it plays right into BK’s strengths.


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                  In-game adjustments are underrated. I'm with you. I'd put Giannis on Bruce Brown personally. Middleton on KD, Jrue on Kyrie, PJ on Blake, and Forbes/Connaughton on Harris. Plays much better into the Bucks strength of letting Giannis grab the board and pushing the pace.

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                  • Master Live 013
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 12327

                    #399
                    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    So what you all are saying is that Giannis needs to go to Olajuwon Camp. Cha-ching!
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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #400
                      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by dfsJunkie
                      In-game adjustments are underrated. I'm with you. I'd put Giannis on Bruce Brown personally. Middleton on KD, Jrue on Kyrie, PJ on Blake, and Forbes/Connaughton on Harris. Plays much better into the Bucks strength of letting Giannis grab the board and pushing the pace.
                      Agree 100%

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #401
                        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        Someone said Bud seems to get the SVGesque coaching yips when faced with adversity...

                        Can't say I don't see a bit of that, lol
                        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 06-08-2021, 03:01 PM.

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                        • 3304Life
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 3002

                          #402
                          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Blake going from not dunking in a whole year with the Pistons to posterizing Giannis 6 months later is the real life version of that “call an ambulance but not for me” meme.


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                          • ProfessaPackMan
                            Bamma
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #403
                            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Bud out here getting outcoached by someone who’s only been a coach for like 9 months, it’s ok to say that lol
                            #RespectTheCulture

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                            • dubcity
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • May 2012
                              • 17873

                              #404
                              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Cmon we know Nash ain't doing a damn thing lol.

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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47565

                                #405
                                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by dubcity
                                Cmon we know Nash ain't doing a damn thing lol.
                                Well if they win he will get everything. But if they lose he will get the blame. It don't matter [emoji23]
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