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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Who didn't see this coming? Hopefully, he'll be a lot more humble and realize all his antics are nothing more than a distraction.
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Ehhh I’m not sure any fan confidently say they saw *this* coming. Now if there’s some wild **** that he’s done that we don’t know about and the team is aware of and they still don’t want him back then I can understand.

Otherwise it makes very little sense to announce publicly that you’re not bringing someone back no matter what, lol. Teams always keep the door open no matter how fans perceive a player. Hell for all the stuff Kyrie did and said, he still had/has teams willing to pay him big money.

Don’t even think he needs to be “more humble”, just needs to play better/be more consistent.

[dubcity]

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Seems like earlier contract talks broke off because Brooks wanted more? Not the best advertisement for betting yourself.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Seems like earlier contract talks broke off because Brooks wanted more? Not the best advertisement for betting yourself.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/nba/grizzlies/2023/05/02/dillon-brooks-contract-memphis-grizzlies/70168578007/

If this is the case, then I can see why they’re not bringing him back. Just seemed weird to go “We are not bringing you back no matter what”.

[TMagic]

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@ShamsCharania



The Memphis Grizzlies have informed pending free agent Dillon Brooks that he will not be brought back under any circumstances, league sources say.

Told y'all he stinks [emoji38]

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[ojandpizza]

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Hahaha Remember when they didn't want to trade for OJ Mayo because there was a mix up of the Brooks [emoji23].

He'll make another team. Just got to figure out that shooting

I think it was Oubre or something. OJ Mayo been out the league lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Little ranting, not that anybody cares lol.



Random pet peeve, and I mean this with no disrespect at all to Curry because it's not a Curry problem, it's a media/fan problem. The overreaction, caught in the moment, type of takes that pop up any time this guy plays a great game (same for Kawhi) literally ruin a massive chunk of the enjoyment I have watching them.



The outpour from all outlets yesterday as the result of his game was absolutely ridiculous. And he played his *** off, don't think I'm saying he didn't. Might have been his best playoff game of his career. But the over exaggeration of what having a great game has to mean for his career, and who he passes, and all that, it's just nauseating.



Like I can't recall a game from Jordan, Bron, Shaq, whoever where they had this one great game and everyone just piled it on (to that degree) the next day listening/watching/reading all the stuff from yesterday. Especially not in the first round, against a team they were favored to beat.

Closest thing I can think of to this is when folks/teams were still celebrating Lebron breaking the scoring record 2 weeks after he broke it.

Didn’t have a problem with them building it up a year out but once he broke it, that should’ve been it lol

But in regards to your original point, yeah the way this sport/certain players are covered/talked about is annoying. Been beating up that horse for a min

[ojandpizza]

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https://www.commercialappeal.com/sto...s/70168578007/

If this is the case, then I can see why they’re not bringing him back. Just seemed weird to go “We are not bringing you back no matter what”.

As far as that article goes, I'll say that in all fairness to Brooks he is a much better player when he's getting touches and allowed to create off the dribble. He is very much a rhythm guy and using him as a 3&D player is never going to make him look like a good scoring option. I think it was just a couple years back he was averaging like 26 a night against Utah in the playoffs. He has the ability to be a bigger scoring threat than what you see now.

With all that said, he also isn't quite good enough to do that on a good team and justify how inconsistent and inefficient he can be. It's a roller coaster with him. You give him free reign and he's thinking he's Kobe, he's taking tough shots, and that can take away from your offense overall even when you're a Kobe/AI/Melo level guy, much more so when you're nowhere near that level of a scoring threat.

Brooks needs to find a better balance going forward, how he can be more efficient in a smaller role, but also he probably realizes he can go to a **** team and put up 20+ while playing good defense for a year or two and land himself a bigger contract after that as well.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Little ranting, not that anybody cares lol.

Random pet peeve, and I mean this with no disrespect at all to Curry because it's not a Curry problem, it's a media/fan problem. The overreaction, caught in the moment, type of takes that pop up any time this guy plays a great game (same for Kawhi) literally ruin a massive chunk of the enjoyment I have watching them.

The outpour from all outlets yesterday as the result of his game was absolutely ridiculous. And he played his *** off, don't think I'm saying he didn't. Might have been his best playoff game of his career. But the over exaggeration of what having a great game has to mean for his career, and who he passes, and all that, it's just nauseating.

Like I can't recall a game from Jordan, Bron, Shaq, whoever where they had this one great game and everyone just piled it on (to that degree) the next day listening/watching/reading all the stuff from yesterday. Especially not in the first round, against a team they were favored to beat.

IDK why there is this almost double-standard (for lack of a better term) where somebody will make statements like "Steph is a top 10 player ever", "Steph is the best PG ever" but then act completely mind-blown when he plays like an All-Time great. Like it's expected, no? And if it's not expected then maybe you're overrating him to begin with? Like the whole big picture of it all just doesn't compute. I feel like, and maybe it's because he's a little guy who's game is all skill-based, but the standard for him is always set so much lower than just about any player who's in the ballpark of where those same people holding him to lower standards try to place him.

I mean we just watched Giannis seal a championship in the finals to take home finals MVP with a 50/14/ 5 block, 64% shooting on 90% from the line game just two years ago. In terms of "Game Score" it's the 2nd greatest game in finals history. That game didn't get half the response Steph got yesterday. It makes no sense.


Also, random pet peeve number 2. The "rings" talk is just killing the way we view players. The number of "what would another ring mean for LeBron", "what would another ring mean for Steph" that was on my timeline yesterday was ridiculous. "Where will LeBron/Steph rank if they win another", like does it not matter how they actually play? Regardless of another ring don't we need to see them actually play it out and produce at a certain level? There is a reason we don't compare someone like Horry to MJ, what you provide in winning actually ****ing matters lol. Like we've already seen these guys get over the top, they don't need to prove they are winners at this point, that part isn't missing for them. Simply seeing them win another regardless of how much impact they provide to get it done shouldn't alter anybody's opinion/ranking of them. And requiring their team to win regardless of what they do individually shouldn't hold them back either. I don't understand how we let the whole "rings" thing get to this point, it's awful.

To point #1.. this type of stuff definitely happened with MJ and LeBron. Maybe not on this level (no social media w/Jordan). But it’s happened.

They pick and choose who they want to build up and who they want to tear down. Same goes for mainstream media when you really think about it.

Just a week ago, Jimmy went absolutely nuclear on the Bucks. But Jimmy isn’t “their guy”.

Let LeBron or Steph do what he did in the manner in which he did it.

[illwill10]

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Joel Embiid won the MVP

[ojandpizza]

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To point #1.. this type of stuff definitely happened with MJ and LeBron. Maybe not on this level (no social media w/Jordan). But it’s happened.

They pick and choose who they want to build up and who they want to tear down. Same goes for mainstream media when you really think about it.

Just a week ago, Jimmy went absolutely nuclear on the Bucks. But Jimmy isn’t “their guy”.

Let LeBron or Steph do what he did in the manner in which he did it.

It does but to what magnitude and what criteria? People have been hot taking the **** out of stuff for years, more so for certain guys. That part isn’t new or Steph exclusive.

But even in the scoring record example that Pack pointed out. That’s a 50 year old record that nobody ever thought we would see broken. The last time I can remember a LeBron playoff reaction like the one Steph got was 2016. It was a championship, first ever 3-1 comeback, tons of start power obviously, first ring for Cleveland in like 50 years, first player to ever lead both teams in points, rebounds, assists, and steals, and blocks, featured a 73 win team, first unanimous MVP, and the best player of this generation.. that was more so my point what I typed all that. Does it happen for other players, yeah. But does it happen for just having a great game in the first round? Yeah probably in certain situations, but not to the magnitude of what I heard yesterday. They treated it like Steph had just averaged 50 for the whole round and it was the finals. Or like they needed that 50 to win with clutch shot after clutch shot. He hit like 20 of those after they were up double digits in the 4th.

Was the same a couple years ago. Steph missed the playoffs entirely and you had guys clamoring for him to get MVP regardless. Some of the same guys we would 100% see call guys like Bron, KD failures if they took that same group to the finals and lost. Even if it’s all completely done in subconscious fashion these guys do not hold him to the same standards as guys they say he compares against.

In all honesty a lot of it is just how much NBA media I consume. I’m always on NBA radio, a lot of my social media is NBA content. So I’m ruining it for myself in a way. But the Steph stuff (and Kawhi was the same) is just so over the top. Even the shift from series 1. Memphis was favored over LAL, GS over SAC.. immediately after the entire narrative was “of course LeBron beat the inexperienced Memphis team” and “it took Curry to drop 50 just for Golden State to win as underdogs”..

[ojandpizza]

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Joel Embiid won the MVP

Huge props to Joel.

I’ve said it a few times but I’m glad he got one while he’s healthy because it just feels like every year like this from him could be the last he’ll have with 60-70 games played and full strength.

Dude had a monster year.

[illwill10]

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Huge props to Joel.

I’ve said it a few times but I’m glad he got one while he’s healthy because it just feels like every year like this from him could be the last he’ll have with 60-70 games played and full strength.

Dude had a monster year.

Especially with the 65 game minimum threshold now, I don't know if we are going to get that. Embiid was dominant and consistent. He started off slow, then picked it up and never slowed down. He probably should have been top 5 in clutch player of the year. He was good in the last 5 minutes of game. His rebounding was bad this year, but he did step up on defense this year when it mattered.

I just hope going forward that they lighten his workload. It was clear that they were force feeding him this year at times for the MVP. I hope Maxey and Harden gets a bigger work load going forward to allow Embiid to pace himself more

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Wild to see The Perk Scare Tactic work and scare voters into voting for Embiid.

Jokic was on his way to his 3rd MVP when Perk made those comments(early-mid March if I’m not mistaken)and then the tide turned turned real quick after that. Ain’t no way in hell you can tell me his comments didn’t have any effect on this race lol

[ojandpizza]

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Wild to see The Perk Scare Tactic work and scare voters into voting for Embiid.

Jokic was on his way to his 3rd MVP when Perk made those comments(early-mid March if I’m not mistaken)and then the tide turned turned real quick after that. Ain’t no way in hell you can tell me his comments didn’t have any effect on this race lol

Maybe, but I also think Joel was definitely deserving and some guys didn’t like the idea of going 3 straight.

[illwill10]

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Wild to see The Perk Scare Tactic work and scare voters into voting for Embiid.

Jokic was on his way to his 3rd MVP when Perk made those comments(early-mid March if I’m not mistaken)and then the tide turned turned real quick after that. Ain’t no way in hell you can tell me his comments didn’t have any effect on this race lol

It did lol.

I think it was a part of a 3 part sequence that swung the MVP race for Embiid. It was the Perk rant, the comeback win against Bucks that led to a 8 game win streak, and then the Nuggets went on a little slump around the same time. I do think if Denver stayed hot and Jokic maintained that triple double average, it would be a different story.

I didn't the voting would be so lopsided in Embiid's favor. I think Sixers having more national TV games helped and Embiid performing well in them helped. I didn't care for the "it's your turn" narrative. I can get the "not sure if he'll be this healthy or dominant" narrative, though. Him getting 30 points in a game felt like a average game this year and it's not like he's one of those chuckers.