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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11255

    #2686
    Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    It's sexual assault allegations though. I don't think there was a positive to make regardless of how liked he is. He didn't actually "come out" he's being accused of assault by a man, and in his messages to the dude he does the opposite of coming out, he tells the dude he's not gay just nasty sometimes lol.
    Also, Dwight isn't currently an active player, so there's no incentive in celebrating him "coming out" (by the NBA).

    Him being "not liked" is also super overblown, IMO.

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    • zello144
      MVP
      • Jul 2013
      • 2183

      #2687
      Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      Thought the same thing because you know this league would’ve gotten right behind it like they did when Jason Collins came out and played in the league 10 years ago.
      Originally posted by J_Posse
      Also, Dwight isn't currently an active player, so there's no incentive in celebrating him "coming out" (by the NBA).

      Him being "not liked" is also super overblown, IMO.

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      This situation reminds me of this.

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      • dubcity
        Hall Of Fame
        • May 2012
        • 17872

        #2688
        Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

        Originally posted by zello144
        This situation reminds me of this.



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        God that was great.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #2689
          NBA Off Topic Thread

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          It's sexual assault allegations though. I don't think there was a positive to make regardless of how liked he is. He didn't actually "come out" he's being accused of assault by a man, and in his messages to the dude he does the opposite of coming out, he tells the dude he's not gay just nasty sometimes lol.
          I’m talking pre-allegations. Obviously it wouldn’t work now lol

          And to most of y’all it’s new but I remember hearing the noise back when he was in DC and missed half of the season due to getting *** surgery and how that ended up happening. Had a whole twitter thread and everything with receipts at the time. But I get why it seems “new” now to folks.

          He’s getting cooked now because he’s trying to play both sides. And FWIW, what he likes/his preferences don’t bother me one bit. But him doing these videos online serves no purpose lol

          Originally posted by J_Posse
          Him being "not liked" is also super overblown, IMO.

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          ****in’ me lol

          There was nice lil stretch from the time he left Orlando to going back to LA the 2nd time around where he wasn’t liked or cared for by players/fans alike and they made that known.

          Hell, this place used to be unanimous in its dislike for him. Wasn’t until he got that Covid Ring before he started to get liked/appreciated by people again lol.
          Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 10-26-2023, 07:00 PM.
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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29806

            #2690
            Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            I’m talking pre-allegations. Obviously it wouldn’t work now lol
            Ahh, I’m following now lol..


            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan

            And to most of y’all it’s new but I remember hearing the noise back when he was in DC and missed half of the season due to getting *** surgery and how that ended up happening. Had a whole twitter thread and everything with receipts at the time. But I get why it seems “new” now to folks.

            He’s getting cooked now because he’s trying to play both sides. And FWIW, what he likes/his preferences don’t bother me one bit. But him doing these videos online serves no purpose lol
            Yeah I remember the other stuff too, I thought there were other leaked texts/messages too be maybe those were with an underage girl or something? I can’t remember. Either way, dude is a mess lol.

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            • Master Live 013
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2013
              • 12327

              #2691
              Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

              I actually remember him being well liked in the beginning, then he started bitching and whining about wanting out of Orlando and the straw that broke the camel's back was when he opted in to go back to the Magic, it went down hill quick after that.
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              • dubcity
                Hall Of Fame
                • May 2012
                • 17872

                #2692
                Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                I figured since Kobe called him out for being lame everyone just kind of accepted the fact lol. Among other reasons.

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                • J_Posse
                  Greatness Personified
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 11255

                  #2693
                  Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                  He was just a goofy, "immature" guy like Shaq (funnily enough), but the difference is he didn't win enough.

                  Mind you I'm no different, but people find the silliest and most arbitrary reasons to like or dislike someone.

                  Prior to leaving Orlando Dwight was one of the 'most liked' players in the league, but that all flipped when he got to LA, and the Kobe Bryant BS/"feud" hurt his reputation. It never recovered, but he's never truly been 'hateable,' IMO.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #2694
                    NBA Off Topic Thread

                    Nitpicking over semantics at this point lol but either way, there was a stretch where he wasn’t liked by folks.

                    Originally posted by dubcity
                    I figured since Kobe called him out for being lame everyone just kind of accepted the fact lol. Among other reasons.
                    It started with that and then it followed him when he got to Houston. Because he wasn’t putting up 20/15 like Shaq said he should at the time, he and Chuck were cooking him nonstop and then of course people bandwagoned onto that. Not to mention he was playing with Harden who had his own **** he was catching at the time and Dwight got in the crossfire of that.

                    Once he got to Atlanta, Charlotte and DC, most stopped checking for him and the jokes kinda subsided. When he returned to LA all humble and ****(compared to his first tenure there)and won a championship, that’s when that fanbase(and the Kobe stans as well)pretty much forgave him and then everyone else started to appreciate him again.
                    Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 10-27-2023, 01:50 PM.
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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47466

                      #2695
                      Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                      In the NHL a player just got suspended 41 games for "reasons relating to sports betting".

                      Knowing the NHL, it's a bigger story than they're letting on and trying to dust it under the rug as much as possible.

                      Which brings me to my point in the NBA...

                      There's no way a single hockey player is the only guy doing this.

                      I bring this up in the NBA thread because a single person's actions influence the game much more in basketball than any other major team sport. People have always joked about refs "calling games based on the betting line", but it does make you wonder with all these things being much easier/legal if there's more funny business happening that we don't know about.

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                      • dubcity
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • May 2012
                        • 17872

                        #2696
                        Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        In the NHL a player just got suspended 41 games for "reasons relating to sports betting".

                        Knowing the NHL, it's a bigger story than they're letting on and trying to dust it under the rug as much as possible.

                        Which brings me to my point in the NBA...

                        There's no way a single hockey player is the only guy doing this.

                        I bring this up in the NBA thread because a single person's actions influence the game much more in basketball than any other major team sport. People have always joked about refs "calling games based on the betting line", but it does make you wonder with all these things being much easier/legal if there's more funny business happening that we don't know about.
                        I'm sure it has happened or will will happen, and I'm sure the NBA (like all other leagues who are getting a ton of money from gambling) will do their best to bury anything that pop ups. And would we even be able to rely on the media to call it out? They have advertising too. It would take an all time idiotic move by a player to make it a story for more than a day.

                        At this point even fans have been conditioned to not see it as being as problematic as it is. It's like, "yeah, but did they even bet on their own team? Oh they did... but did they bet against them? If not, who cares?"
                        Last edited by dubcity; 10-27-2023, 03:22 PM.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47466

                          #2697
                          Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                          Originally posted by dubcity
                          I'm sure it has happened or will will happen, and I'm sure the NBA (like all other leagues who are getting a ton of money from gambling) will do their best to bury anything that pop ups. And would we even be able to rely on the media to call it out? They have advertising too. It would take an all time idiotic move by a player to make it a story for more than a day.

                          At this point even fans have been conditioned to not see it as being as problematic as it is. It's like, "yeah, but did they even bet on their own team? Oh they did... but did they bet against them? If not, who cares?"
                          The type of bet definitely impacts things, like the Pete Rose one which would be a much diff story if it happened in a later era.

                          But I think the issue would be more of "they did bet on ___, whose to say they haven't bet AGAINST their own team that we haven't found out about, or they had their friends bet against them", which isn't something the league can't really stop, but it definitely won't be something they like.

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                          • southernmetalhead
                            Inter Miami
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 3862

                            #2698
                            Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                            Besides the personal stuff, the Dwight Howard talk is also a reminder of how awful Orlando has been for a decade.

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                            • zello144
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 2183

                              #2699
                              Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              In the NHL a player just got suspended 41 games for "reasons relating to sports betting".

                              Knowing the NHL, it's a bigger story than they're letting on and trying to dust it under the rug as much as possible.

                              Which brings me to my point in the NBA...

                              There's no way a single hockey player is the only guy doing this.

                              I bring this up in the NBA thread because a single person's actions influence the game much more in basketball than any other major team sport. People have always joked about refs "calling games based on the betting line", but it does make you wonder with all these things being much easier/legal if there's more funny business happening that we don't know about.
                              Most definitely the guys on Two way contracts who are bouncing between the G league and NBA during the regular season and the guys on the minimum or 10 day contracts.

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                              • ggsimmonds
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 11235

                                #2700
                                Re: NBA Off Topic Thread

                                Originally posted by J_Posse
                                He was just a goofy, "immature" guy like Shaq (funnily enough), but the difference is he didn't win enough.

                                Mind you I'm no different, but people find the silliest and most arbitrary reasons to like or dislike someone.

                                Prior to leaving Orlando Dwight was one of the 'most liked' players in the league, but that all flipped when he got to LA, and the Kobe Bryant BS/"feud" hurt his reputation. It never recovered, but he's never truly been 'hateable,' IMO.

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                                I think it was the perception of him ducking out of LA that sunk his likeability factor the most.

                                I agree he wasn't really hateable, fans gave him the disappointed parent treatment more than anything

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