NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

If they get any money from boosters and get caught then they'll get kicked out of school and lower their draft status.

Not everyone will get an offer to duke and not all college coaches actually care about their players

And there have been guys who got great while in the nba. And just because you have a couple of players who have a hard time adjusting to life in the nba doesn't mean anything. Players who go to college for four years and then go to the nba have to adjust too. Why don't you talk about amare stadomire(sp) or kevin garnett or lebron?[/QUOTE]

1. That is true, but most guys dont get cought. I am talking about the stars here, and while it might not be "right", we now how the system is.

2. That is true, but if these guys are good enough to go pro genereally they will get offers from good schools. Most college coaches carea bout winning, so in turn they will care about these players.

A couple of players have a hard time adjusting. For every Lebrom, Amare, etc... there are 50 high school kids that are bankrupt and have no future cause they dont make it in the NBA. YOu know why you dont know/hear of these guys, cause they didnt make it and know they are workin gas janitors somewhere.

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Jon Bender is an alright player, you don't have to be a superstar to be in the nba. And if you go to a school like duke it doesn't mean anything. Practicing against nba guys is better then what any college team can give you, there's no comparison at all. Oh yeah, please list those 50 other guys who have done bad coming out of high school or left college early.

JOn Bender has been the league what, 6 years now?

When he came in he was a injury prone 7 footer who could jump high and was injury prone. He has been injured at least 50% of the team in each of his season, and while he has shown some flashes of brilliance, he has showm me he is lost on the floor 90% of the time.

I would comment on his overall game, but he hasnt played enough to really evaluate him.

Now, if by "made it" you mean 6 years making multi-millions and yet having ZERO impact on the game or team is probably something every HS'er everywhere could look to for inspiration.

Oh, and I dont buy that practcing against NBA players is that much better than practicing against college palyers.

As for some guys who didnt make it, like I said I dont keep track, but here are a few:

Lenny Cooke
D'Angelo Collins
Korleone Young
guys who made it but get little or no PT:
Kendrick Perkins
Travis Outlaw
Ndudi Ebi
Daruis Miles (although I like him, what has he done so far)

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Jon Bender is an alright player, you don't have to be a superstar to be in the nba. And if you go to a school like duke it doesn't mean anything. Practicing against nba guys is better then what any college team can give you, there's no comparison at all. Oh yeah, please list those 50 other guys who have done bad coming out of high school or left college early.

JOn Bender has been the league what, 6 years now?

When he came in he was a injury prone 7 footer who could jump high and was injury prone. He has been injured at least 50% of the team in each of his season, and while he has shown some flashes of brilliance, he has showm me he is lost on the floor 90% of the time.

I would comment on his overall game, but he hasnt played enough to really evaluate him.

Now, if by "made it" you mean 6 years making multi-millions and yet having ZERO impact on the game or team is probably something every HS'er everywhere could look to for inspiration.

Oh, and I dont buy that practcing against NBA players is that much better than practicing against college palyers.

As for some guys who didnt make it, like I said I dont keep track, but here are a few:

Lenny Cooke
D'Angelo Collins
Korleone Young
guys who made it but get little or no PT:
Kendrick Perkins
Travis Outlaw
Ndudi Ebi
Daruis Miles (although I like him, what has he done so far)

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Do you know how many players that are contributing right now go under that exception?

And how do college coaches teach more than pro coaches? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.


And some of you guys are giving me reasons WHY players shouldn't go to college if they can go to the NBA...
1. They get money from boosters
2. They don't have to worry about school
3. They get just as much distraction in college as they would in the NBA

^That's everything wrong with college sports today. I'm glad we're promoting it here on OS.

Hey, Dick Vitale has something to say before I finish:
"Hey, don't join the NBA! What are you thinking? I'm gonna pimp you, make billions off of you, then you can go do what you want with your life... in two years... baby! Diaper dandies! Trifecter! AHHH I LOVE COLLEGE HOOPS! THIS IS WHAT IT's ALL ABOUT, BAYBEE!"


Holla

AGain, there are a lot, no one is arguing that. But how many have failed and have nothing to fall back on.

If you think pro coaches teach everything, you are sadly mistaken. Most NBA coaches will hire a high school coach of the teams star player(s) if that player requests it. WHile HS coaches dont get paid like the NBA ones do, they are the ones that teach the fundemental, basic basketball stuff. There are some college coaches that are better than NBA coaches, IMO. So now, its really not all that crazy of a comment.

No one is promoting it, but its being real. Thats the way it is.

Oh and while your focusing on the negatives, lets focus on some of the up side

1. Most time to refine your game.
2. Learn to mature and grow
3. You still getg to make your money in 2 or 3 years while you are parting away at school

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Do you know how many players that are contributing right now go under that exception?

And how do college coaches teach more than pro coaches? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.


And some of you guys are giving me reasons WHY players shouldn't go to college if they can go to the NBA...
1. They get money from boosters
2. They don't have to worry about school
3. They get just as much distraction in college as they would in the NBA

^That's everything wrong with college sports today. I'm glad we're promoting it here on OS.

Hey, Dick Vitale has something to say before I finish:
"Hey, don't join the NBA! What are you thinking? I'm gonna pimp you, make billions off of you, then you can go do what you want with your life... in two years... baby! Diaper dandies! Trifecter! AHHH I LOVE COLLEGE HOOPS! THIS IS WHAT IT's ALL ABOUT, BAYBEE!"


Holla

AGain, there are a lot, no one is arguing that. But how many have failed and have nothing to fall back on.

If you think pro coaches teach everything, you are sadly mistaken. Most NBA coaches will hire a high school coach of the teams star player(s) if that player requests it. WHile HS coaches dont get paid like the NBA ones do, they are the ones that teach the fundemental, basic basketball stuff. There are some college coaches that are better than NBA coaches, IMO. So now, its really not all that crazy of a comment.

No one is promoting it, but its being real. Thats the way it is.

Oh and while your focusing on the negatives, lets focus on some of the up side

1. Most time to refine your game.
2. Learn to mature and grow
3. You still getg to make your money in 2 or 3 years while you are parting away at school

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

What is your legal objection?

Well, for example, if you decide to be a mechanic out of HS, you can go be one as long as you meet the qualifications. Now you may fail and fall flat on your ***, but since you were qulaified you got the job.

If you feel you can make it in the NBA, I dont see why [legally] you shouldnt be allowed to try. Now if you dont, oh well. You have been given the chance to make it, and you failed.

Now most places dont hire kids right out of HS, and wether or not people agree with it that leage and the union have agreed (or all but agreed) to the new rule so thats just the way its gonna be.

[Skins4Life]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

What is your legal objection?

Well, for example, if you decide to be a mechanic out of HS, you can go be one as long as you meet the qualifications. Now you may fail and fall flat on your ***, but since you were qulaified you got the job.

If you feel you can make it in the NBA, I dont see why [legally] you shouldnt be allowed to try. Now if you dont, oh well. You have been given the chance to make it, and you failed.

Now most places dont hire kids right out of HS, and wether or not people agree with it that leage and the union have agreed (or all but agreed) to the new rule so thats just the way its gonna be.

[Brankles]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Something becomes problematic. If the best HS players turn pro instead of going to college over time, the teams who need the draft to improve are screwed.

How? If a team wants to improve that year, then they can draft a 4 year senior if they wanted to... it's not like High Schoolers all of the sudden kick the best college players out of the draft...

This rule does not improve the quality of talent in the NBA. Why the NBA wants to do this, unless they have a deal going with the NCAA, is beyond me...



Holla

[Brankles]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Something becomes problematic. If the best HS players turn pro instead of going to college over time, the teams who need the draft to improve are screwed.

How? If a team wants to improve that year, then they can draft a 4 year senior if they wanted to... it's not like High Schoolers all of the sudden kick the best college players out of the draft...

This rule does not improve the quality of talent in the NBA. Why the NBA wants to do this, unless they have a deal going with the NCAA, is beyond me...



Holla

[Brankles]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Well, for example, if you decide to be a mechanic out of HS, you can go be one as long as you meet the qualifications. Now you may fail and fall flat on your ***, but since you were qulaified you got the job.

If you feel you can make it in the NBA, I dont see why [legally] you shouldnt be allowed to try. Now if you dont, oh well. You have been given the chance to make it, and you failed.

Now most places dont hire kids right out of HS, and wether or not people agree with it that leage and the union have agreed (or all but agreed) to the new rule so thats just the way its gonna be.

Where exactly do you stand on this issue?

You seem to be jumping all over the place. I don't know if you want an age limit or not.


Holla

[Brankles]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Well, for example, if you decide to be a mechanic out of HS, you can go be one as long as you meet the qualifications. Now you may fail and fall flat on your ***, but since you were qulaified you got the job.

If you feel you can make it in the NBA, I dont see why [legally] you shouldnt be allowed to try. Now if you dont, oh well. You have been given the chance to make it, and you failed.

Now most places dont hire kids right out of HS, and wether or not people agree with it that leage and the union have agreed (or all but agreed) to the new rule so thats just the way its gonna be.

Where exactly do you stand on this issue?

You seem to be jumping all over the place. I don't know if you want an age limit or not.


Holla

[SPTO]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Here's why the NBA is doing this:

- HS'ers are a crapshoot, for every Kobe Bryant there's a korleone Young, for every T-Mac there's a Leon Smith

- HS'ers usually take 2-3 yrs before they can make a huge impact on their team

- HS'ers don't have a very polished game (for the most part) and have to be coached more then the other players. If they went to college they'd get the coaching they need

- finally, HS'ers are immature for the most part. They don't have the stamina or the willpower to go through the rigours of an NBA season without some kind of trouble whether it be personal or emotional.

[SPTO]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

Here's why the NBA is doing this:

- HS'ers are a crapshoot, for every Kobe Bryant there's a korleone Young, for every T-Mac there's a Leon Smith

- HS'ers usually take 2-3 yrs before they can make a huge impact on their team

- HS'ers don't have a very polished game (for the most part) and have to be coached more then the other players. If they went to college they'd get the coaching they need

- finally, HS'ers are immature for the most part. They don't have the stamina or the willpower to go through the rigours of an NBA season without some kind of trouble whether it be personal or emotional.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

And there have been guys who got great while in the nba. And just because you have a couple of players who have a hard time adjusting to life in the nba doesn't mean anything. Players who go to college for four years and then go to the nba have to adjust too. Why don't you talk about amare stadomire(sp) or kevin garnett or lebron?

1. That is true, but most guys dont get cought. I am talking about the stars here, and while it might not be "right", we now how the system is.

2. That is true, but if these guys are good enough to go pro genereally they will get offers from good schools. Most college coaches carea bout winning, so in turn they will care about these players.

A couple of players have a hard time adjusting. For every Lebrom, Amare, etc... there are 50 high school kids that are bankrupt and have no future cause they dont make it in the NBA. YOu know why you dont know/hear of these guys, cause they didnt make it and know they are workin gas janitors somewhere.[/QUOTE]
Where are the 50 high school players who have trouble adjusting? There has only been 29 high school players drafted. High school players don't enter the draft unless they know that they are going to be drafted in the first round. And do you think that nba coaches don't care about winning? You don't know what you're talking about then.

[jmood88]

Re: NBA to have age limit as soon as next year (20 yrs. old)

And there have been guys who got great while in the nba. And just because you have a couple of players who have a hard time adjusting to life in the nba doesn't mean anything. Players who go to college for four years and then go to the nba have to adjust too. Why don't you talk about amare stadomire(sp) or kevin garnett or lebron?

1. That is true, but most guys dont get cought. I am talking about the stars here, and while it might not be "right", we now how the system is.

2. That is true, but if these guys are good enough to go pro genereally they will get offers from good schools. Most college coaches carea bout winning, so in turn they will care about these players.

A couple of players have a hard time adjusting. For every Lebrom, Amare, etc... there are 50 high school kids that are bankrupt and have no future cause they dont make it in the NBA. YOu know why you dont know/hear of these guys, cause they didnt make it and know they are workin gas janitors somewhere.[/QUOTE]
Where are the 50 high school players who have trouble adjusting? There has only been 29 high school players drafted. High school players don't enter the draft unless they know that they are going to be drafted in the first round. And do you think that nba coaches don't care about winning? You don't know what you're talking about then.