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  • Vast
    MVP
    • Sep 2003
    • 4015

    #796
    Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

    Originally posted by Jeffx
    Tyler Hansbrough > the Knicks. Another wonderful defensive display.
    It was ****ing gross bro. That's gotta be the coaches fault. You gotta make adjustments and teach your team ways to stop getting destroyed inside. gross.
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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #797
      Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

      Went to my first Knicks game last night in 17 years.

      Waste of money.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #798
        Originally posted by ehh
        Went to my first Knicks game last night in 17 years.

        Waste of money.
        Damn, that's wack, man.

        Interesting you mention this because I was just thinking this morning that if I went to last night's game, I would have felt cheated as a paying customer.

        I used to want to attend a Knicks game (never have. Only seen the Red Storm play Notre Dame some years ago in MSG and a Rangers game) but I have no interest anymore until they play with heart.

        I just don't understand how you get embarrassed by Dallas and then come out flat to start the game against Indiana. Within minutes you could tell the Knicks were about to get blown out. I couldn't watch after the first.

        It's hard to be a fan and feel so frustrated watching a team with potential not give it their all. I can't deal with it. So I just turn away rather than get boiled up while watching.


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        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #799
          Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

          Originally posted by ehh
          Went to my first Knicks game last night in 17 years.

          Waste of money.
          Whoa! That sucks.

          I've been there though. I had went to one Knicks game every year for about 4-5 years straight and never witnessed a victory. I skipped a year. Then got free tickets last year and saw them finally beat the Nuggets (when Gallo was busting Melo).

          But this is rather different because the Knicks have a "respectable" squad and you pay good money to see a good team...pumped up just to be disappointed.

          I couldn't even bear to continue watching them at home last night as you know those nights when the Knicks just don't give a F and you know they're going to lose.

          I would've been pissed sitting in the Garden last night so I feel your pain.

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          • Vast
            MVP
            • Sep 2003
            • 4015

            #800
            Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

            I hear you guys and agree. Ehh i feel for you bro, sorry.

            Who do you guys blame this loss on, the players or the coaching staff?

            Obviously the players play and the coaches don't but are the Knicks just getting outcoached?
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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #801
              I think players just have days they don't try. They don't want to give the effort. It's going to happen over the course of the season.

              But I think about the Spurs and how one night back in December, I believe, Popovich was furious over a loss and called his team out saying they'll never win 60 games. Then there's Rick Carlisle proclaiming his band of merry men were soft.

              What has D'Antoni done? Think about what we hear now from Stoudemire and Carmelo. Each keeps saying: "We need time to jell." D'Antoni is responsible for that rhetoric. He doesn't hold his players responsible. He feeds them excuses and they use them.

              If you believe that you shouldn't be great, why would you try to be great? Rather than putting them on the spot, D'Antoni treats every negative passively. "We need to get better on D. It'll happen." "Guys here just need more practice together." "We're still working on some things."

              Sounds like Mike. Good coaches inspire talent. Mike inspires complacency.


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              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • Jeffx
                MVP
                • Jan 2007
                • 3045

                #802
                Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                Originally posted by Vast
                It was ****ing gross bro. That's gotta be the coaches fault. You gotta make adjustments and teach your team ways to stop getting destroyed inside. gross.
                Hansbrough's last power dunk was ridiculous. I could have driven through that lane.

                CMH is 110% on the money. This falls on the coach for not holding players accountable. Popp would have reamed their ***es over that mess Sunday night. With D'Amphony, it's one excuse after another. He even said the Knicks don't need a defensive presence in the middle, they're fine the way they are. What a joke.

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #803
                  Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                  Originally posted by CMH
                  Damn, that's wack, man.

                  Interesting you mention this because I was just thinking this morning that if I went to last night's game, I would have felt cheated as a paying customer.
                  Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                  Whoa! That sucks.

                  I would've been pissed sitting in the Garden last night so I feel your pain.
                  Originally posted by Vast
                  I hear you guys and agree. Ehh i feel for you bro, sorry.
                  I took my old man as his birthday present, if I was there with my boys I would have left mid-3rd quarter. I obviously didn't waste time re-watching the game on my DVR but in person it looked like there was absolutely no effort no the floor - none at all.

                  I've been to tons of college games there and seen some amazing BET games and Sunday night was the worst atmosphere I've ever seen at the Garden.

                  Funniest part is that I gave my dad the choice of BET tickets or Knicks tickets and he chose the Knicks because they've been bad for so long and because we didn't think UConn was going to do anything in the tourney this year. Just brutal lol.
                  "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                  "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                  • bigeastbumrush
                    My Momma's Son
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19245

                    #804
                    Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                    Originally posted by Vast
                    I hear you guys and agree. Ehh i feel for you bro, sorry.

                    Who do you guys blame this loss on, the players or the coaching staff?

                    Obviously the players play and the coaches don't but are the Knicks just getting outcoached?
                    The players. They had no fight.

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                    • randombrother
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1275

                      #805
                      Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                      I WANT A NEW HEAD COACH NOW! I'VE SEEN ENOUGH! I don't care what happens with the rest of this game. Win or lose. Coach D'Andummy needs to go. Worse last minute of coaching ever. GET HIM OUTTA HERE!

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                      • ricanbxbomba
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 402

                        #806
                        Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                        Originally posted by randombrother
                        I WANT A NEW HEAD COACH NOW! I'VE SEEN ENOUGH! I don't care what happens with the rest of this game. Win or lose. Coach D'Andummy needs to go. Worse last minute of coaching ever. GET HIM OUTTA HERE!
                        I feel like.. we don't deserve to be in the playoff hunt the way we defend.

                        Why show up? Can't beat the Cavs, Pacers... why even.. being a knicks fan all my life and this season I swear they will give me a heart attack.

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                        • Jeffx
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3045

                          #807
                          Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                          Originally posted by ricanbxbomba
                          I feel like.. we don't deserve to be in the playoff hunt the way we defend.
                          That, plus the Knicks lack of size, is killing them.

                          Where's Shelden Williams? Is he in D'Amphony's doghouse?

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #808
                            Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                            Originally posted by Jeffx
                            That, plus the Knicks lack of size, is killing them.

                            Where's Shelden Williams? Is he in D'Amphony's doghouse?
                            No, we have a high caliber player that the Knicks spared no expense to obtain in the starting lineup.

                            He is the difference maker. He will be our savior.

                            Jokes aside, guys need to relax. This isn't a championship team. Coach or not, they were outplayed and then got beat by a last second shot. Nothing you can do about that.
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                            • Jeffx
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3045

                              #809
                              Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                              Originally posted by Pared
                              No, we have a high caliber player that the Knicks spared no expense to obtain in the starting lineup.

                              He is the difference maker. He will be our savior.

                              Jokes aside, guys need to relax. This isn't a championship team. Coach or not, they were outplayed and then got beat by a last second shot. Nothing you can do about that.
                              I know the Knicks aren't ready for prime time, but I want to see effort. Where's the effort on defense? We saw it against Miami - was that an aberration?

                              And I'm sick of D'Amdummy's excuses, "we have to do this, we have to do that, we have to get better on defense, blah, blah, blah". JUST DO IT!!!

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #810
                                Re: The 2011 New York Knicks: The Rebirth

                                Originally posted by Pared
                                No, we have a high caliber player that the Knicks spared no expense to obtain in the starting lineup.

                                He is the difference maker. He will be our savior.

                                Jokes aside, guys need to relax. This isn't a championship team. Coach or not, they were outplayed and then got beat by a last second shot. Nothing you can do about that.
                                Against the Pacers?

                                The Knicks aren't trying. I know they won't be a championship team, but put some effort into it at the very least.

                                Oh well, they'll make the playoffs interesting because they'll probably show up then. It seems like they are just going through the motions right now.
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