Official Boston Celtics Thread

**tonybologna** · 06-17-2016, 04:39 PM

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Celtics News(6-17-16): http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...s-stars-future

Like father, like son: Former Boston Celtics draft pick Colton Iverson holding on to NBA dream

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/06/like_father_like_son_former_bo.html

Like his father, Chuck, former Boston Celtics draft pick Colton Iverson wants a shot at the NBA.

Jahlil Okafor says there's no avoiding trade rumors

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2016/06/16/jahlil-okafor-says-theres-no-avoiding-trade-rumors

Jahlil Okafor hears all of the rumors. New Philadelphia 76ers general manager Bryan Colangelo recently admitted to NBA.com that, with the expected return of 2014 No. 3 overall pick Joel Embiid, the team is actively shopping their centers. And reportedly, the Celtics are near the top of the list of suitors. “I would just simply tell […]

Draft Profile: Henry Ellenson | Boston Celtics

http://www.nba.com/celtics/draft/profile-henry-ellenson

Draft Profile: Ben Bentil | Boston Celtics

http://www.nba.com/celtics/draft/profile-ben-bentil

**tonybologna** · 06-18-2016, 04:05 PM

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Celtics News(6-18-16): http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celti...ne-is-in-sight

3 unlikely pairings for the NBA draft

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1041527?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The prevailing wisdom with the draft cautions teams against picking for need. The more prudent move, however, would be to choose the best player available.That strategy is good in principle, but blindly following that model has led to some disastrous results in previous years - none more so than in Philadelphia. Drafting centers in three consecutive drafts coincided with general manager Sam Hinkie getting axed, and it's created awkward questions with regard to team building and the direction of the franchise.Hinkie took the best player available each time, but that made for some unsightly pairings. Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor were terrible when they shared the court, and worse yet, they hindered each other's productivity. That's why both players have been put on the trading block.Here are some potential pairings that teams should look to avoid in this year's draft.Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ersAll signs suggest Simmons is going first overall to the Sixers - and for good reason. Simmons is an athletic marvel and a top-tier talent. Any team - especially a directionless franchise like the Sixers - that passes on a potential superstar would be silly.But it's not quite a slam dunk in terms of fit. Consider Simmons' skillset: The big selling point with the 20-year-old Aussie is that he's a hyper-athletic power forward with a tight set of handles. Will there be room for him to operate in Philadelphia's crowded frontcourt?Pending trades, the Sixers have six frontcourt players that they're invested in between Okafor, Noel, Jerami Grant, Robert Covington, Joel Embiid (if he returns from injury), and Dario Saric (if he finally comes over from Europe). Does adding another big really make sense?The argument can be made that Simmons is simply too talented to pass up, and given his physical profile, the Sixers should definitely give Simmons plenty of consideration.But wouldn't adding a wing scorer like Brandon Ingram make more sense? Never mind that he's drawing comparisons to Kevin Durant - adding a playmaking wing would give the Sixers a much-needed outside threat to pair with all their interior talent. Drafting Ingram would give the Sixers the opportunity to finally start building a team.Boston Celtics using the No. 3 pick on anyoneHaving the No. 3 pick should never be considered a problem, per se. But given that it's a two-player draft, and the Celtics' timeline, the most sensible move would be to trade the pick.Dragan Bender has been linked to the pick, but the lanky 18-year-old has struggled to find playing time while playing in the Israeli League - which is to say that picking him would be a gamble. Marquese Chriss has impressed in workouts and is an athletic marvel, but he posted alarmingly low free-throw and rebounding rates for a center in college. He's a nice prospect, but again, he's nothing close to a surefire selection.It's not even necessarily about the prospects themselves. It doesn't make sense for the Celtics to pick any teenager only to develop them for years down the line. They're a playoff team on the precipice of contention. They're already stocked with young talent, and they should be looking to package the pick for the long-awaited All-Star that Danny Ainge has ardently coveted.Toronto Raptors, Any 'win-now' playerSimilar to the Celtics, the Raptors are that rare playoff team that ended up with a lottery selection thanks to a forward-thinking trade. Given their immediate needs, the Raptors have a major decision to make with the No. 9 pick. Should they take another flyer on a prospect, move the pick, or should they take someone who can help them in the interim?Taking on another project would be a difficult sell. The Raptors already have three dead roster spots devoted to incubating Bruno Caboclo, Lucas Nogueira, and Delon Wright. Adding a fourth player who can't contribute would put significant strain on the rotation. The alternative would be to take a so-called win-now player. Picking up a 7-footer like Jakob Poeltl would theoretically solve the issues at backup center (if Bismack Biyombo becomes too expensive to re-sign), but relying on any rookie to make meaningful contributions to a 56-win team would be misguided. That's why moving the pick might be the most prudent move. The Raptors' war chest is flush with surplus selections and budding talent. Packaging it together could help the Raptors lure a third star to prop up Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan.Related: 3 unlikely pairings for the NHL draft

Boston Celtics: Kevin Love Trade Becoming More Realistic

https://hoopshabit.com/2016/06/17/boston-celtics-kevin-love-trade-becoming-realistic/

Kevin Love has been included in trade talks all season. Now, it's looking more realistic that a deal with the Boston Celtics could be reached.

http://www.nba.com/celtics/draft/profile-deyonta-davis

**areobee401** · 06-19-2016, 03:06 PM

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Sounds like Jaylen Brown and Dragan Bender are the two favorites to be selected by the C's. Of course no one knows for sure but those are the names reportedly linked to Boston.

**tonybologna** · 06-19-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by areobee401

Sounds like Jaylen Brown and Dragan Bender are the two favorites to be selected by the C's. Of course no one knows for sure but those are the names reportedly linked to Boston.

Those certainly are the 2 main players bring talked about drafting at #3 if we do go thru with it & not trading it away to get another player.

I personally think Bender would be the best option but Jaylon Brown has an awful lot of raw talent as well. I guess due to the guard heavy team we're not going to draft a guard at #3 even though I would love to have Buddy Hield.

Celtics News(6-19-16): http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16339029

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/6/18...the-smart-pick

http://www.wcvb.com/sports/espn-insi...t-day/40125414

http://www.nba.com/celtics/draft/profile-kris-dunn

**tonybologna** · 06-20-2016, 04:26 PM

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Celtics News(6-20-16): http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2016...-in-three-team

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...utler-and-more

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...he-2016-market

http://www.nba.com/celtics/draft/pro...nzel-valentine

**jeremym480** · 06-21-2016, 04:05 PM

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I touched on this in the Prospects thread, but I wanted to be a little more in-depth here.

The two rumors I've seen today are
1) Khris Middleton http://nesn.com/2016/06/nba-trade-ru...al-with-bucks/
and
2) Nerlens Noel https://fansided.com/2016/06/21/nba-...-nerlens-noel/

The Middleton trade is supposedly for #3 and "a contract" and the Noel trade doesn't really have any specifics... I'm assuming that it isn't for 3. I mean, I like Noel, but he isn't worth the 3rd pick, imo.

What would be amazing is if both trades happened. Something like 3 and Amir for Middleton (although I doubt the Bucks would take that) and AB and 16 for Noel. As much as I love AB and want to keep him a small ball lineup of Smart, IT4, Middleton, Crowder and Noel sounds pretty awesome. I won't go as far as to call it a poor man's Golden State, but I do love the versatility it would provide.

**areobee401** · 06-21-2016, 04:41 PM

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I would be open to moving Bradley. That's not to say I want to, but I think we have seen peak Bradley. Or at least close to it.

(Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com)

Our friends at Real GM have transcribed some commentary by Brian Windhorst:

“The Celtics is the trade that has made sense for six months,” said Brian Windhorst. “I happen to know the Cavs really like Avery Bradley and to me, I would want Marcus Smart and I would want one of the draft picks. You’re not getting the high pick obviously, but you want one a draft pick.”

Windhorst also talked about how the pressure has been removed by winning a title and they can afford to wait to let the trade market come to them on Love.

Avery Bradley and the 16th pick for Kevin Love? I’m down. I’d even through in another late 1st round pick.

I still think Cleveland moves Love this off-season. Title or not, they’re not getting anything near consistent play from a $20 million player. He just doesn’t fit the system.

http://redsarmy.com/2016/06/21/repor...avery-bradley/

**jeremym480** · 06-21-2016, 05:01 PM

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Spoiler

**tonybologna** · 06-22-2016, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by jeremym480

I touched on this in the Prospects thread, but I wanted to be a little more in-depth here.

The two rumors I've seen today are
1) Khris Middleton http://nesn.com/2016/06/nba-trade-ru...al-with-bucks/
and
2) Nerlens Noel https://fansided.com/2016/06/21/nba-...-nerlens-noel/

The Middleton trade is supposedly for #3 and "a contract" and the Noel trade doesn't really have any specifics... I'm assuming that it isn't for 3. I mean, I like Noel, but he isn't worth the 3rd pick, imo.

What would be amazing is if both trades happened. Something like 3 and Amir for Middleton (although I doubt the Bucks would take that) and AB and 16 for Noel. As much as I love AB and want to keep him a small ball lineup of Smart, IT4, Middleton, Crowder and Noel sounds pretty awesome. I won't go as far as to call it a poor man's Golden State, but I do love the versatility it would provide.

I believe I would rather have Middleton than Noel to be honest. Noel is younger but Middleton is already proven.

Originally posted by areobee401

I would be open to moving Bradley. That's not to say I want to, but I think we have seen peak Bradley. Or at least close to it.

http://redsarmy.com/2016/06/21/repor...avery-bradley/

I too wouldn't care to let AB go. He's been a solid player for a while but he's reached his peak/prime already. He's been consistent though.

But, if we can get players we need to take us over the hump then so be it. AB is just so solid on both ends of the floor though. It's hard to find two-way players like him anymore.

**tonybologna** · 06-22-2016, 05:30 PM

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Celtics News(6-22-16): http://espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/p...ns-noel-others

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...eague-schedule (Celtics are in this league so that's why I posted it here.)

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=16397049

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/inde...emarcus_c.html

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/6/22...ared-sullinger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ictable-picks/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-on-bucks-star

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/wh...aft-questions/

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...bsO/story.html

**areobee401** · 06-23-2016, 09:07 AM

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per @chadfordinsider the Celtics have a standing offer from the Sixers: Okafor for the #3 - so far C's "want more"

Yeah, pass on Okafor for the #3 straight up. I would rather us keep the pick instead of trade for Okafor.

**jeremym480** · 06-23-2016, 09:42 AM

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I'm still hoping for a big trade, but assuming that doesn't happen this is my hope for draft night

1) Murray
2) Hield
3) Bender
4) Trade for Okafor
5) Brown
6) Dunn
7) Chriss

**areobee401** · 06-23-2016, 10:05 AM

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1) Dunn
2a) Trade for Noel
2b) Murray

Other options currently on the table don't move me at all.

**BleacherBum2310** · 06-23-2016, 12:07 PM

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I hope they continue to pass on Okafor. Noel would be great.

Keep the Pick my preference would probably be Bender or Dunn i guess.

**jeremym480** · 06-23-2016, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by BleacherBum2310

I hope they continue to pass on Okafor. Noel would be great.

Keep the Pick my preference would probably be Bender or Dunn i guess.

The main reason I would like Okafor over Noel is because we would have to pay Noel next year. I do really like Noel though, I just don't want to pay him 20M next season. Hopefully, Danny can do his magic and get them to give up Saric, as well. I'm sure we would have to give up more than #3, but we would have enough assets to give up if they're willing.

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