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  • gmac0322
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    • Aug 2009
    • 1650

    #436
    Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

    I think everyone would get a kick out of this. Don't they know that they just need to come into this forum to learn how to run the team.



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    • Vast
      MVP
      • Sep 2003
      • 4015

      #437
      Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

      I swear man it's like these guys are ********. Grant makes mistakes sure, but Calderon doesn't? An old fart who is terrible and is getting worse over someone young with potential that has no confidence because the ****ty coaches won't let him make a mistake without taking him instantly out of the game?
      He may not be the answer but Calderon is the problem.

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      • Jeffx
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        • Jan 2007
        • 3045

        #438
        Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

        Phil Jackson needs to pull a Danny Ainge and start thinking outside the box.

        From Rambis' remarks, it's obvious the Knicks "braintrust" is trying to make Afflalo so ticked off he decides to opt out.

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        • Hassan Darkside
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          • Sep 2003
          • 7561

          #439
          Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

          I wonder if the Knicks braintrust is also trying to get Melo to waive his no-trade clause. Perhaps Phil knows that's the only way to successfully rebuild. Afflalo and Melo do have a close relationship.
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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #440
            Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

            I don't think the Knicks will have to play too many mind games to get Melo's request for a trade. Once we strike out in FA he'll be knocking on Phil's door with his bags packed.
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            • CMH
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              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #441
              Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

              Originally posted by ehh
              I don't think the Knicks will have to play too many mind games to get Melo's request for a trade. Once we strike out in FA he'll be knocking on Phil's door with his bags packed.
              Agreed.

              Melo is beginning to sound like some Knicks fans that expect free agents to sign here because New York.

              It just doesn't work that way.
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              • gmac0322
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                • Aug 2009
                • 1650

                #442
                Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                And here we go. As expected.

                Sources: Phil Jackson pushing for Knicks to keep Kurt Rambis

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                Ian Begley

                The*New York Knicks*are giving strong consideration to making Kurt Rambis their full-time head coach, according to league sources.

                Sources told ESPN.com that Rambis, who has served as the Knicks' interim coach since Derek Fisher was fired Feb. 8, is the preferred choice of team president ‎Phil Jackson, who sources say is pushing for a new multiyear deal for Rambis despite New York's 8-16 record since the coaching change.

                Although just 8-16 since becoming the Knicks' interim coach, Kurt Rambis is the preferred choice of Phil Jackson to be the permanent man on New York's bench, sources say.*Adam Hunger/USA TODAY Sports

                Rambis worked two stints as an assistant coach to Jackson with the*Los Angeles Lakers, joining him for four of his 11 championship rings, and has grown very close to Jackson thanks to that longstanding relationship. Sources say Jackson, who took his post with the Knicks in March 2014, has had a much more frequent presence at Knicks practices at home since Rambis took over.

                With Jackson, 70, insisting that he can no longer handle the day-to-day rigors of coaching, sources say he sees Rambis as the coach best suited to not only run the triangle offense he favors but also manage the team using Jackson's long-held principles.

                Jackson, of course, had similar hopes for Fisher, one of his longtime on-the-court leaders with the Lakers. But New York made the abrupt decision to fire Fisher just a season and a half into his five-year, $25 million deal to coach the Knicks, with Fisher sporting a record of 40-96.

                Contributing to the timing of the move were a 1-9 skid after the Knicks' 22-22 start this season and concerns within the organization about a fractured coaching staff and the speed of Fisher's transition from player to coach, ESPN.com reported at the time. According to ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst, only the first four years of Fisher's contract were guaranteed, worth a total of $17 million.

                The Knicks, though, have continued to fade since Fisher's ouster. They enter Wednesday's game at 31-47, although that includes an 0-9 record when star forward*Carmelo Anthony*hasn't played.

                It remains to be seen how Anthony would respond to Rambis being elevated to full-time coach. Last month, Anthony said he hoped Jackson, in addition to considering Rambis, would open up the position and consider external candidates, with established names such as Tom Thibodeau, Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson all available ‎and possessing Knicks ties.

                Phil Jackson last publicly addressed the Knicks' coaching situation in March during the team's West Coast road trip and said then that Rambis is "perfectly capable" of coaching the club on a full-time basis.

                "Kurt and I have a relationship that goes back to 2001," Jackson said. "He knows the ins and outs, what pleases me and [what] probably I want to have changed. ... We have a relationship that's much more tight [than Jackson's relationship with Fisher]."

                If Rambis lands the permanent job, it would be his second full-time coaching stint in the NBA after a two-season run with the*Minnesota Timberwolves*in 2009-10 and 2010-11. Rambis posted a 32-132 record in those two seasons with the Wolves following a 24-13 stint as the Lakers' interim coach during the 1998-99 season that was shortened to 50 games because of a lengthy lockout.

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                • CMH
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #443
                  Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                  It was always going to be about letting Jackson coach without physically coaching.

                  Rambis is the best person to allow him to do that.

                  My only issue with this Phil Jackson experiment is his unwillingness to admit that he's trying to coach through someone. Phil should embrace his role and let a coach embrace their own. This dual-position relationship without fully committing to either is where the disconnect begins for me.
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                  • gmac0322
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1650

                    #444
                    Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                    I think Phil will continue to half do everything because he doesn't have a great roster. I think if he had Lebron, Durant, Curry etc etc. Then he would probably come down and coach. If he continues to have Rambis as coach. For the next two years it will be more mediocre seasons and then he will leave. On two bright notes. 31 is better than 17 lol and Rambis has finally played Grant kind of lol

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                    • Jeffx
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3045

                      #445
                      Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                      Rambis.....smh......this franchise is so clueless.

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                      • Vast
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4015

                        #446
                        Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                        Fisher is a way better coach than Rambis. I'm moving to San Fran **** this ****

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                        • CMH
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          #447
                          Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                          The thing is I like Phil's construction of the roster. I like his persistence to find quality character guys that work hard.

                          But his time here is going to burn because of his coaching selections.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #448
                            Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                            Originally posted by CMH
                            The thing is I like Phil's construction of the roster. I like his persistence to find quality character guys that work hard.

                            But his time here is going to burn because of his coaching selections.
                            Yeah, all along I've supported Phil's roster management.

                            As for coaching, he wanted Kerr originally which would have been a great selection. Fisher was a mistake but he recognized it and nipped that in the bud quickly. This decision over the summer will define his tenure though, he cannot choose Rambis.
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                            • NYJets
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 18637

                              #449
                              Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                              If Rambis is his choice Dolan needs to step in.

                              Really frustrating that Thibs is available, and according to reports wants the job, and we aren't even going to give him a look.
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                              • jb12780
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                                • Oct 2008
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                                #450
                                Re: The 2016 New York Knicks: Now that we're done tanking...

                                Originally posted by NYJets
                                If Rambis is his choice Dolan needs to step in.

                                Really frustrating that Thibs is available, and according to reports wants the job, and we aren't even going to give him a look.
                                That is absolutely ignorant by the Knicks.

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