Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

Was it just me, or did anybody else see that intentional low blow from Hopkins? Forgot what round it was. It was during the early rounds. That itself may have triggered the illegal moves from Roy.

Fitty bones for this?!

I don't know what fight some of you are watching that claim that RJJ was the one fighting dirty. Hopkins clearly was the one fighting dirty. I have never seen a fighter fight as dirty as Hopkins fought tonight. Repeated intentional headbutts, rabbit punches, clear low blows.

RJJ's had one rabbit punch when hopkins was turning, which was unintentional. Hopkins landed intentional rabbit punches, and the one time Roy retaliated. But it was Hopkins that fought dirty, Roy just didn't put up with that crap and hit him back. And it hurt bernard. Bernard deserved that because most fighters just let it go, but Roy wasn't havin none of that crap.

In the 11th, Hopkins threw an intentional headbutt that cut Roy. He should have been DQ'd from that. In the 10th, RJJ landed a punch on the beltline. It was a borderline situation, whereas earlier in the fight Hopkins landed a much, much, much lower blow that actually hit Roy in the cup. And Roy didn't bitch or complain about it like Hopkins did. In fact, Hopkins fouls were clearly more damaging and more blatant, yet Roy's fouls were borderline situations that actually hurt Bernard.

I thought Roy outclassed Bernard in this fight. He may not have won the decision, but Roy proved that he was the more skilled boxer. He landed the cleaner punches in the center of the ring, including some nice overhand rights that rocked Hopkins. The only time Hopkins "scored" was when he pinned Roy against the ropes headbutted him and threw punches, most of which were blocked.

Roy didn't throw enough punches to convince the judges that he was winning, but in my eyes, I thought Roy deserved to win this fight. But it probably should have been a draw.

RJJ is a much better boxer than Bernard Hopkins. He isn't a dirty fighter and only fouled bernard after Bernard was repeatedly fouling him, and his fouls weren't as bad as Bernard's fouls. Bernard could have legitimately been KO'd by Roy's left hook to the belt-line in round 10, that wasn't ruled a knockdown, but similar punches in the past have been ruled a knockdown. It wasn't vintage Roy or anything, but Roy did look pretty good in this fight in my opinion and I thought he did more for his legacy than bernard did in this fight.

Bernard proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a dirty fighter, a cheat, and a coward. RJJ is a much better person than Bernard Hopkins and although both fighters had fouls and Bernard threw more punches, I thought Roy was the better boxer in this fight. It was very very close and surprisingly, I enjoyed this fight. It was a good PPV too because all the undercards were great including a great comeback fight for Sergio Mora that was incredible. All in all a much better PPV than Pacquiao Clottey, in which all the fights were snoozefests.

I take my hat off to RJJ for a great career and an above average performance. I do not take my hat off to Bernard for his dirty tactics. Roy has had the better career and if Bernard thinks he can go up to heavyweight and win the title from David Haye he is in for a rude awakening.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

^^^

you sound like a RJJ fan and a Hopkins detractor.....which is fine btw.

I was pretty neutral going into the fight, but Hopkins is a very dirty fighter, and was hoping RJJ would really KO him. I think hopkins was hurt a few times in the fight, but hopkins did more to RJJ and that gave him the victory.

Jones just can't get off anymore, no more fast combos like the days of old and that's why he lost the fight. father time caught up to him ...and to both fighters really. But for a guy who relied on his speed/quickness for success, the age affected RJJ more.

Hopkins should be nominated for best actor at the oscars for tonight's performance IMO.....very classless fight from him.

a fight that happened 5-7 years too late, and in this case, late is NOT better than never.

[Money99]

Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

This fight went exactly as I thought. Hopkins totally and utterly dominated and outclassed Roy.

Jr. is completely shot. Not even close to looking like a world class fighter. Not even a contender.

And although I respect Hopkins, he could be even more boring than John Ruiz. He still has a high boxing IQ and defense, but he has no power and holds way too often.

I hope both fighters retire but if only one is going to do it, it has to be Roy.

This is exactly the kind of fight that should have been free, but I'm glad it wasn't. Can you imagine how many casual fans would have sworn off boxing forever if they watched this mess?

Anyway, if Roy doesn't retire he needs to be placed into psychiatric care. There is absolutely nothing left of this guy. If he continues, he better stick to small fry fighters because he might get killed in the ring if he gets into the ring against real contenders or champions.

And Hopkins-Haye? Are you kidding me? Haye would murder Hopkins. B-Hop wouldn't come even remotely close to hurting Haye so David would walk right through any shots and lean on Hopkins to take his legs out and then unload one haymaker after another. It won't be pretty.

[allBthere]

Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

was watching a stream, but could only hear because the video didn't feel like moving. Was exciting at first, but I fell asleep even just hearing it lol.

Good analysis though...it was Joe Tesatore and some Paul guy (as well as sugar ray leonard)

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

Anybody who paid for this fight should collect SSI because you're obviously ********

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

^^^
you sound like a RJJ fan and a Hopkins detractor.....which is fine btw.

Who was more impressive last night? Jones or Hopkins?

How can Hopkins be happy with that performance? He proved once again that he's the dirtiest fighter in the game. Jones didn't open up as much as he probably could and should have, but I thought he outclassed Hopkins with clean punching in spots. I don't think Hopkins won 9 rounds in that fight. Most of the rounds were even, and the judges gave every close round to Hopkins, and he didn't lose any points for the intentional headbutts, blatant low blows and initiating the rabbit punches. Jones landed one punch to the back of the head as Bernard landed a punch and Roy turned him around, and he gets deducted a point.

So I am not so much of a RJJ fanboy as I am a fan of the sweet science. And Jones fought a more technically skilled fight. Hopkins detracted by fighting like a coward and a bully, cheating every chance he got, and Roy didn't put up with that crap and hit him back a few times. Still, Hopkins was the much dirtier fighter, and I really don't think Hopkins deserved to win that fight. I thought Roy outclassed Hopkins and the only way Hopkins hurt Jones is by headbutts. Roy didn't whine when Bernard fouled, but when Roy retaliated, Bernard started crying about it and should win a friggin oscar for that. Bernard fought a terrible fight, and didn't do anything to prove he's better than Jones.

I was pretty neutral going into the fight, but Hopkins is a very dirty fighter, and was hoping RJJ would really KO him. I think hopkins was hurt a few times in the fight, but hopkins did more to RJJ and that gave him the victory.

Hopkins did more to RJJ? Yeah Hopkins fouled more and heabutted Roy more, tied him up, threw more punches, most of which were blocked, and that gave him the win? That's sad that you can a win a fight like that. Roy had the cleaner punches and landed some great overhand rights against Hopkins.

Jones just can't get off anymore, no more fast combos like the days of old and that's why he lost the fight. father time caught up to him ...and to both fighters really. But for a guy who relied on his speed/quickness for success, the age affected RJJ more.

I don't agree. I thought Roy looked faster, more intelligent, classier and more skilled than Hopkins. RJJ didn't get off as much as he used to, but he still got off enough to make that fight close, and he didn't get much love from the judges or the referee. It's hard to look good against Hopkins, but Jones looked pretty good in there. Jones hurt Hopkins more than Hopkins hurt Jones. And the fouls were instigated by Hopkins.

Hopkins should be nominated for best actor at the oscars for tonight's performance IMO.....very classless fight from him.

a fight that happened 5-7 years too late, and in this case, late is NOT better than never.

Yeah Hopkins was classless in this fight. I don't think he deserved to win. I thought it probably should have been a draw because neither won convincingly. I still say Roy Jones landed the cleaner punches throughout the fight. Bernard threw more punches, most of which were blocked by Jones, and resorted to dirty tactics.

[Jesus]

Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

Who was more impressive last night? Jones or Hopkins?

How can Hopkins be happy with that performance? He proved once again that he's the dirtiest fighter in the game. Jones didn't open up as much as he probably could and should have, but I thought he outclassed Hopkins with clean punching in spots. I don't think Hopkins won 9 rounds in that fight. Most of the rounds were even, and the judges gave every close round to Hopkins, and he didn't lose any points for the intentional headbutts, blatant low blows and initiating the rabbit punches. Jones landed one punch to the back of the head as Bernard landed a punch and Roy turned him around, and he gets deducted a point.

So I am not so much of a RJJ fanboy as I am a fan of the sweet science. And Jones fought a more technically skilled fight. Hopkins detracted by fighting like a coward and a bully, cheating every chance he got, and Roy didn't put up with that crap and hit him back a few times. Still, Hopkins was the much dirtier fighter, and I really don't think Hopkins deserved to win that fight. I thought Roy outclassed Hopkins and the only way Hopkins hurt Jones is by headbutts. Roy didn't whine when Bernard fouled, but when Roy retaliated, Bernard started crying about it and should win a friggin oscar for that. Bernard fought a terrible fight, and didn't do anything to prove he's better than Jones.



Hopkins did more to RJJ? Yeah Hopkins fouled more and heabutted Roy more, tied him up, threw more punches, most of which were blocked, and that gave him the win? That's sad that you can a win a fight like that. Roy had the cleaner punches and landed some great overhand rights against Hopkins.



I don't agree. I thought Roy looked faster, more intelligent, classier and more skilled than Hopkins. RJJ didn't get off as much as he used to, but he still got off enough to make that fight close, and he didn't get much love from the judges or the referee. It's hard to look good against Hopkins, but Jones looked pretty good in there. Jones hurt Hopkins more than Hopkins hurt Jones. And the fouls were instigated by Hopkins.



Yeah Hopkins was classless in this fight. I don't think he deserved to win. I thought it probably should have been a draw because neither won convincingly. I still say Roy Jones landed the cleaner punches throughout the fight. Bernard threw more punches, most of which were blocked by Jones, and resorted to dirty tactics.

Hopkins was extremely dirty, but Roy cant pull the trigger anymore, no straights when the window was there, no execution on counters he's done.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

This fight went exactly as I thought. Hopkins totally and utterly dominated and outclassed Roy.

No way in hell Hopkins totally and utterly dominated and outclassed Roy. Hopkins showed absolutely no class in that fight. Roy clearly outclassed Bernard by actually outboxing effectively. he didn't throw enough to decisively beat Bernard like he did the first time, but he proved that he was the more classy boxer and the better professional. Hopkins's best offense was intentional headbutts. If you think that's domination or "class" you know nothing about boxing.

Jr. is completely shot. Not even close to looking like a world class fighter. Not even a contender.

RJJ isn't shot. He's lost a step, but he's not shot at all. He has better hand speed than Hopkins and landed the cleaner punches. He doesn't throw as much as he used to, but he's still got good movement, good defense, and good ring awareness. Even the greats like Ali and SRL stopped throwing the amount of combinations they used to as they got older. SRL said this last night and I thought he did a great job as a commentator.

And although I respect Hopkins, he could be even more boring than John Ruiz. He still has a high boxing IQ and defense, but he has no power and holds way too often.

I lost all respect for Hopkins that I had last night. (which wasn't much to begin with) He's always been a dirty fighter and proved again last night that he's the dirtiest fighter in boxing and one of the dirtiest fighters of all time. How the hell can you respect someone who fights like that? RJJ has a much higher boxing IQ and it showed last night. RJJ also has a much higher IQ in general than Bernard. RJJ has better defense and more flash on his punches.

I hope both fighters retire but if only one is going to do it, it has to be Roy.

Are you kidding me? Bernard collapsed in the dressing room and was seriously injured by RJJ. Bernard has never been injured like that. He talked about how he was going to hurt Roy and it ended up that he was the one injured in the fight. Bernard headbutted Roy, lowblowed Roy and rabbit punched Roy, and Roy gave him a taste of his own medicine by rabbit punching him back a few times. Serves Hopkins right. RJJ wasn't having none of that last night and I thought it was telling that although Bernard was landing illegal blows, he was the one who ended up hurt. RJJ was in much better condition following the fight last night, and if anyone should continue to fight, it should be RJJ. Bernard could seriously get hurt against David Haye.

This is exactly the kind of fight that should have been free, but I'm glad it wasn't. Can you imagine how many casual fans would have sworn off boxing forever if they watched this mess?

Actually, I think it was a very good PPV buy. The undercards were excellent. Sergio Mora's performance against Calvin Green was worth the price alone. And Sugar Ray Leonard did a great job with the color commentary. You are seeing two legends fight and although it wasn't on HBO or something, it was still entertaining and revealed a lot about how Hopkins and Jones each conduct themselves. Roy didn't cry when he was hit with illegal punches, but every time Roy did even the slightest borderline thing, Hopkins acted like he was a hit with a sledgehammer. Hopkins is such a punk, but the fight showed that RJJ is the better professional.

Anyway, if Roy doesn't retire he needs to be placed into psychiatric care. There is absolutely nothing left of this guy. If he continues, he better stick to small fry fighters because he might get killed in the ring if he gets into the ring against real contenders or champions.

Hopkins could also get hurt in the ring, especially if he tries to mix it up with David Haye. Haye is taller than Hopkins and the headbutt's won't work. He'll just be walking into uppercuts.

And Hopkins-Haye? Are you kidding me? Haye would murder Hopkins. B-Hop wouldn't come even remotely close to hurting Haye so David would walk right through any shots and lean on Hopkins to take his legs out and then unload one haymaker after another. It won't be pretty.

Yeah it wouldn't be pretty.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

Who was more impressive last night? Jones or Hopkins?

How can Hopkins be happy with that performance? He proved once again that he's the dirtiest fighter in the game. Jones didn't open up as much as he probably could and should have, but I thought he outclassed Hopkins with clean punching in spots. I don't think Hopkins won 9 rounds in that fight. Most of the rounds were even, and the judges gave every close round to Hopkins, and he didn't lose any points for the intentional headbutts, blatant low blows and initiating the rabbit punches. Jones landed one punch to the back of the head as Bernard landed a punch and Roy turned him around, and he gets deducted a point.

So I am not so much of a RJJ fanboy as I am a fan of the sweet science. And Jones fought a more technically skilled fight. Hopkins detracted by fighting like a coward and a bully, cheating every chance he got, and Roy didn't put up with that crap and hit him back a few times. Still, Hopkins was the much dirtier fighter, and I really don't think Hopkins deserved to win that fight. I thought Roy outclassed Hopkins and the only way Hopkins hurt Jones is by headbutts. Roy didn't whine when Bernard fouled, but when Roy retaliated, Bernard started crying about it and should win a friggin oscar for that. Bernard fought a terrible fight, and didn't do anything to prove he's better than Jones.



Hopkins did more to RJJ? Yeah Hopkins fouled more and heabutted Roy more, tied him up, threw more punches, most of which were blocked, and that gave him the win? That's sad that you can a win a fight like that. Roy had the cleaner punches and landed some great overhand rights against Hopkins.



I don't agree. I thought Roy looked faster, more intelligent, classier and more skilled than Hopkins. RJJ didn't get off as much as he used to, but he still got off enough to make that fight close, and he didn't get much love from the judges or the referee. It's hard to look good against Hopkins, but Jones looked pretty good in there. Jones hurt Hopkins more than Hopkins hurt Jones. And the fouls were instigated by Hopkins.



Yeah Hopkins was classless in this fight. I don't think he deserved to win. I thought it probably should have been a draw because neither won convincingly. I still say Roy Jones landed the cleaner punches throughout the fight. Bernard threw more punches, most of which were blocked by Jones, and resorted to dirty tactics.

What fight were you watching? Roy was lucky to even get 1 round over hopkins. He didn't do enough to score points with the judges. He looked slow and hesitant to let his hands fly. Hopkins was much more active. Both fought dirty, but hopkins was smarter about it. Roy needed to retire about 5 years ago. He can't buy a win right now.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

Hopkins was much more active. Both fought dirty, but hopkins was smarter about it.

Hopkins was a bit more active, but that mostly consisted of Hopkins leading in with the head and headbutting Roy, and then throwing punches with Roy against the ropes, most of which were blocked by Roy. Both fought dirty, but Hopkins fought dirtier.

Hopkins landed multiple intentional headbutts. Roy landed no headbutts.

Hopkins landed a low blow right to the nuts of Roy. Way below the belt-line. Hopkins landed that when the ref was on the other side and couldn't see it. The "low blow" that Roy landed was nowhere near as bad as BHop's low blow. It was on the belt-line and was a borderline punch. And it actually hurt Hopkins badly and could have ended the fight if it was ruled a knockdown. Punches to the belt-line are generally considered legal. It was right on the lower border.

Hopkins initiated all the rabbit punches. Roy retaliated with a few rabbit punches of his own, but only after Bernard fouled first.

Roy needed to retire about 5 years ago. He can't buy a win right now.

Roy didn't need to do anything. Roy makes his own decisions and has an incredible career. He makes his choices and lives with his choices. Hopkins was much much worse than Roy was hurt last night, and Hopkins should retire just as much if not more than Roy. He's 4 years older and was hurt badly against Jones. Both guys are well past their prime, but at least Roy doesn't resort to headbutting his opponents to win a fight. Bernard has always been a much dirtier fighter than Jones and that was reinforced last night.

[Money99]

Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

No way in hell Hopkins totally and utterly dominated and outclassed Roy. Hopkins showed absolutely no class in that fight. Roy clearly outclassed Bernard by actually outboxing effectively. he didn't throw enough to decisively beat Bernard like he did the first time, but he proved that he was the more classy boxer and the better professional. Hopkins's best offense was intentional headbutts. If you think that's domination or "class" you know nothing about boxing.



RJJ isn't shot. He's lost a step, but he's not shot at all. He has better hand speed than Hopkins and landed the cleaner punches. He doesn't throw as much as he used to, but he's still got good movement, good defense, and good ring awareness. Even the greats like Ali and SRL stopped throwing the amount of combinations they used to as they got older. SRL said this last night and I thought he did a great job as a commentator.



I lost all respect for Hopkins that I had last night. (which wasn't much to begin with) He's always been a dirty fighter and proved again last night that he's the dirtiest fighter in boxing and one of the dirtiest fighters of all time. How the hell can you respect someone who fights like that? RJJ has a much higher boxing IQ and it showed last night. RJJ also has a much higher IQ in general than Bernard. RJJ has better defense and more flash on his punches.



Are you kidding me? Bernard collapsed in the dressing room and was seriously injured by RJJ. Bernard has never been injured like that. He talked about how he was going to hurt Roy and it ended up that he was the one injured in the fight. Bernard headbutted Roy, lowblowed Roy and rabbit punched Roy, and Roy gave him a taste of his own medicine by rabbit punching him back a few times. Serves Hopkins right. RJJ wasn't having none of that last night and I thought it was telling that although Bernard was landing illegal blows, he was the one who ended up hurt. RJJ was in much better condition following the fight last night, and if anyone should continue to fight, it should be RJJ. Bernard could seriously get hurt against David Haye.



Actually, I think it was a very good PPV buy. The undercards were excellent. Sergio Mora's performance against Calvin Green was worth the price alone. And Sugar Ray Leonard did a great job with the color commentary. You are seeing two legends fight and although it wasn't on HBO or something, it was still entertaining and revealed a lot about how Hopkins and Jones each conduct themselves. Roy didn't cry when he was hit with illegal punches, but every time Roy did even the slightest borderline thing, Hopkins acted like he was a hit with a sledgehammer. Hopkins is such a punk, but the fight showed that RJJ is the better professional.



Hopkins could also get hurt in the ring, especially if he tries to mix it up with David Haye. Haye is taller than Hopkins and the headbutt's won't work. He'll just be walking into uppercuts.



Yeah it wouldn't be pretty.

You're completely delusional. I'm sorry to be so insulting but I don't know what else to say.
Despite the fact that you felt Roy was competitive in the fight is one thing, but to say it was a good PPV buy? That's downright lunacy.

I'm glad I watched it for free online. And even then, I wish I was paid to watch that crap.

Roy is completely shot and isn't even close to being worthy of spending money to watch fight.

But to each his own. Enjoy watching Roy go further and further down the drain. He's a waste of time anymore. I wish legends would learn to walk away when they should. Roy should have retired after he was KTFO by Glen Johnson.

The only reason he should continue fighting is if he's trying to humiliate himself in new and unexciting ways. Last nights tilt would have accomplished that. But maybe he has more to give in dragging his legacy further and further through the mud.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

You're completely delusional. I'm sorry to be so insulting but I don't know what else to say.
Despite the fact that you felt Roy was competitive in the fight is one thing, but to say it was a good PPV buy? That's downright lunacy.

It was a better PPV buy than Pacquiao - Clottey. This card had some of the best undercards of the year. Sergio Mora fought Calvin Green in one of the most exciting fights I've seen. The main even was two legends in their 40s going at it.

I'm glad I watched it for free online. And even then, I wish I was paid to watch that crap.

So you're bragging that you watched a fight for free online instead of supporting boxing by paying for the fight? That isn't something to brag about. Most boxing fans don't order every single boxing card, but still buy some PPVs and it's good to support boxing by actually paying money to see fights rather then watching a stream. As I said, this undercard was the best undercard I've seen in a long long time. And the main event was much more exciting than Pacquiao - Clottey, which was a dull one-sided fight. Hopkins Jones was back and forth and had drama, even if that drama was due to Hopkins being a bitch and getting hurt after getting a taste of his own medicine. He got what he had coming to him and Roy didn't put up with his dirty tactics this time.

Roy is completely shot and isn't even close to being worthy of spending money to watch fight.

Hopkins looked more shot that Roy did in that fight. Did you know that Hopkins collapsed in the locker room after the fight despite fouling more blatantly than RJJ? Sweet revenge? Come on. Roy showed that he was the much better sportsman and Hopkins is nothing more than a whiny, spoiled, jealous, wanna be thug who cheats his way to victory.

I feel sorry for anyone who respects Hopkins more than RJJ after that fight.

But to each his own. Enjoy watching Roy go further and further down the drain. He's a waste of time anymore. I wish legends would learn to walk away when they should. Roy should have retired after he was KTFO by Glen Johnson.

Yeah to each his own. I wish legends would learn to walk away when they should too. But this goes for Hopkins and RJJ. And lets be honest. Hopkins is 4 years older than RJJ. So if anyone is too old, it's clearly Bernard by 4 years. Maybe Roy should have retired after he was KTFO by Glen Johnson, but you know what, Roy is a competitor and didn't want to go out like that. More power to him for fighting on and taking on some of the best guys out there like Calzaghe and Hopkins. And Roy took up and coming prospects like Anthony Hanshaw to school. He gave Lacy a one sided beating, and even beat a former champ in Trinidad pretty easily. Why does everyone criticize Roy instead of appreciating the fact that this guy still goes out there and tries to give it is all? RJJ deserves a lot of props for continuing to fight. He does it because he simply loves to fight. He loves it and as long as he is motovated and competitive, it's his decision as to whether he wants to continue. It's also Bernard's decision as to whether he wants to continue as well.

The only reason he should continue fighting is if he's trying to humiliate himself in new and unexciting ways. Last nights tilt would have accomplished that. But maybe he has more to give in dragging his legacy further and further through the mud.

It's through the mud if you compare it to his prime when he was the pound for pound king. But a lot of fighters have fought into their late years like Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard and they are still considered all time greats.

[Complex]

Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

Finally saw the fight. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. This fight should've happened 10 yrs ago and this is whats wrong with the sport. What if football was the 85 bears team playing the Colts of today, 5 yrs from now. This is the one sport where good match ups tend to happen years later than they should.

[Money99]

Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs Hopkins

It was a better PPV buy than Pacquiao - Clottey. This card had some of the best undercards of the year. Sergio Mora fought Calvin Green in one of the most exciting fights I've seen. The main even was two legends in their 40s going at it.

I'll give you the Mora fight, but the main event was pure trash.

So you're bragging that you watched a fight for free online instead of supporting boxing by paying for the fight? That isn't something to brag about. Most boxing fans don't order every single boxing card, but still buy some PPVs and it's good to support boxing by actually paying money to see fights rather then watching a stream. As I said, this undercard was the best undercard I've seen in a long long time. And the main event was much more exciting than Pacquiao - Clottey, which was a dull one-sided fight. Hopkins Jones was back and forth and had drama, even if that drama was due to Hopkins being a bitch and getting hurt after getting a taste of his own medicine. He got what he had coming to him and Roy didn't put up with his dirty tactics this time.

I'd rather admit to stealing a fight than actually paying for this mess.

Hopkins looked more shot that Roy did in that fight. Did you know that Hopkins collapsed in the locker room after the fight despite fouling more blatantly than RJJ? Sweet revenge? Come on. Roy showed that he was the much better sportsman and Hopkins is nothing more than a whiny, spoiled, jealous, wanna be thug who cheats his way to victory.

I feel sorry for anyone who respects Hopkins more than RJJ after that fight.

They both looked horrible, but Roy looked even worse than a clearly shot Hopkins.

Yeah to each his own. I wish legends would learn to walk away when they should too. But this goes for Hopkins and RJJ. And lets be honest. Hopkins is 4 years older than RJJ. So if anyone is too old, it's clearly Bernard by 4 years. Maybe Roy should have retired after he was KTFO by Glen Johnson, but you know what, Roy is a competitor and didn't want to go out like that. More power to him for fighting on and taking on some of the best guys out there like Calzaghe and Hopkins. And Roy took up and coming prospects like Anthony Hanshaw to school. He gave Lacy a one sided beating, and even beat a former champ in Trinidad pretty easily. Why does everyone criticize Roy instead of appreciating the fact that this guy still goes out there and tries to give it is all? RJJ deserves a lot of props for continuing to fight. He does it because he simply loves to fight. He loves it and as long as he is motovated and competitive, it's his decision as to whether he wants to continue. It's also Bernard's decision as to whether he wants to continue as well.

It's through the mud if you compare it to his prime when he was the pound for pound king. But a lot of fighters have fought into their late years like Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard and they are still considered all time greats.

But neither Ali or Sugar Ray were knocked silly like Roy has been. Holmes technically stopped Ali in his last fight, but Ali was never knocked into another planet by anyone. and Ali was suffering pretty badly from parkinsons at this point.
But Roy has been knocked silly three times in the past few years.
And as of yet, nobody has ever stopped Hopkins, including a prime Roy.

Hopkins is a shadow of his former self and yet he was still able to beat a prime and undefeated Kelly Pavlik not long ago. Sure, it might have something to do with The Ghost's issue with a staph infection but he still won.
Roy hasn't beaten anyone of true value in quite a while. Certainly not the undisputed middleweight champion of the world.

But we can go all day back-and-forth. You seem to believe Roy is still a major player in the sport and has the ability to be a champion again.
I see otherwise. And if you're in your 40's and you're not able to come close to beating anyone with a belt, why continue on?