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  • Hova57
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 3754

    #271
    Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    Something I noticed last night is the body stamina is set so that if you weave alot in the first , it get harder and slower in the second and the third you can't do it at all.

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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12694

      #272
      Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      Originally posted by BlueNGold
      I really think it's only coming down to punches thrown, which is ridiculous.

      I've had the same situations happen and the guy that's thrown more punches always seems to get the decision, assuming one guy doesn't score any knockdowns.
      I think you're right. My last fight against Ali, my connection rate was better, I landed more power shots, more counters and Ali had sustained twice as much damage as I had and I never won a round.
      The overrating of Ali is alive and well!

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      • Motown
        OS Brew Connoisseur
        • Jul 2002
        • 9169

        #273
        Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Pacman unloaded on me(Cotto) in the corner, & dropped me thru the ropes w/ a lunging bodyshot...craaazy To me, the punches are just TOO fast in this game & they definitely need to be toned down as well as the pace. Now over a 12rd match that just might happen, but as of now these 3rds as is... punches are thrown too fast imo.

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        • acts238shaun
          MVP
          • Dec 2005
          • 2714

          #274
          Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          I'm loving the demo, but the connect rate is ridiculous, even in fight now. If the connect rate isn't tweaked it could ruin the game for me.

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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #275
            Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            Originally posted by Money99
            I think you're right. My last fight against Ali, my connection rate was better, I landed more power shots, more counters and Ali had sustained twice as much damage as I had and I never won a round.
            The overrating of Ali is alive and well!
            Ali is overrated mostly by his hook ratings (20 Right, 17 Left), but I've seen decisions where Tyson has gotten questionable favorable calls. This from an earlier post by me:

            Interesting scoring sometimes. I lost a fight because they gave Tyson (my opponent) the first even though I outpunched him 35-23, and outpercetaged him 35-67 (52%)-23-91 (25%). I had the edge in power punches (non-jabs not power modified) 22-21.

            No stuns in that round either.

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            • Money99
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2002
              • 12694

              #276
              Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              I think what bothers me the most right now is that I can't seem to do any damage unless I keep the power-modifier down the entire time.
              I've hit Ali with some great combo's and counter punches with regular shots and it was like Ali was being bothered by a mosquito.
              It reminded me of playing a baseball game where if you don't press the Power Modifier you get nothing but singles. If you want extra base hits, you have to hold for power the entire game.

              And holding it down doesn't seem to affect my stamina in the least. At least not my aerobic stamina. I didn't throw anything but power shots over 3 rounds and I don't think I saw my stamina drop below 95% once.

              I hope I'm wrong about this. And I hope the final version allows massive slider edits to fix this.
              If I'm wrong, please someone tell me where I can alleviate this.
              But right now, Ali throws close to 200 punches a round and isn't affected in the least, and all of Tyson's regular punches seem to have zero affect on him.

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              • Money99
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2002
                • 12694

                #277
                Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by JayBee74
                Ali is overrated mostly by his hook ratings (20 Right, 17 Left), but I've seen decisions where Tyson has gotten questionable favorable calls. This from an earlier post by me:

                Interesting scoring sometimes. I lost a fight because they gave Tyson (my opponent) the first even though I outpunched him 35-23, and outpercetaged him 35-67 (52%)-23-91 (25%). I had the edge in power punches (non-jabs not power modified) 22-21.

                No stuns in that round either.
                Maybe it's simply a CPU boost to help make the game more difficult to win via decision?

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                • Flamehead
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1501

                  #278
                  Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Just curious, what would be reasoning behind the design decision to not allow draws online? To me, the possibility of a draw online just adds to the game.

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                  • JayBee74
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 22989

                    #279
                    Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Originally posted by Money99
                    Maybe it's simply a CPU boost to help make the game more difficult to win via decision?
                    that was on online opponent.

                    Originally posted by Money99
                    I think what bothers me the most right now is that I can't seem to do any damage unless I keep the power-modifier down the entire time.
                    I've hit Ali with some great combo's and counter punches with regular shots and it was like Ali was being bothered by a mosquito.
                    Hmmm...I haven't noticed that. I threw a regular left jab, right cross combo with Tyson and it one punch KOed Ali, and I've landed several power modified punches that had impact but didn't stun or KO my opponent. Very rarely I've tried to use them too much and have felt the stamina drain, or seen my opponent use them too much and they slow to a crawl.

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                    • Money99
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 12694

                      #280
                      Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      Originally posted by JayBee74
                      that was on online opponent.


                      Hmmm...I haven't noticed that. I threw a regular left jab, right cross combo with Tyson and it one punch KOed Ali, and I've landed several power modified punches that had impact but didn't stun or KO my opponent. Very rarely I've tried to use them too much and have felt the stamina drain, or seen my opponent use them too much and they slow to a crawl.
                      Okay. Then I guess I just suck. I'll have to keep learning and trying. Thanks Jaybee.

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                      • Phobia
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11623

                        #281
                        Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        Originally posted by Money99
                        Okay. Then I guess I just suck. I'll have to keep learning and trying. Thanks Jaybee.
                        Money, this is pretty much the mindset you need to have.

                        Regular punches take a "toll" on a fighter. They are the punches you use to SETUP your big shots. Another words don't go in throwing nothing but modified power shots. You will QUICKLY drain your stamina. Punch accuracy is tied to stamina so as you get tired more your punches miss more. So what you want to do is land those quick punch combos. Jab, jab, straight. Then out of no where when you see the opening you land the same combo but with POWER this time. Jab, jab, Power modified Straight. This will conserve energy and will also do big damage over time.

                        Modified punches score better in the judges eyes. (another reason people can be losing on the cards when they think they are winning. Power shots score higher) Also power shots are the shots that "stun" opponents and also "KO" opponents.

                        They are not punches you want to throw non-stop but ones you want to link into combos.

                        I have a video I am uploading today of me SLAUGHTERING a Tyson with Ali. I am hitting him with EVERYTHING, power shots, regular shots, brutal combos, etc. Tyson won't go down. So who ever said Tyson chin is to weak........I beg to differ I got video proof of his tough chin

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                        • acts238shaun
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2714

                          #282
                          Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          I beg to differ I got video proof of his tough chin

                          EA did get his chin rating right this year.

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                          • bill2451
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1123

                            #283
                            Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            I got stunned (and eventually knocked down) as Aluminum Mike w/ a normal jab in the first round by Ali online. No counter, no power (I know this because he didn't throw a single power shot all match, and did not land a counter either).

                            I then proceeded to counter him 14 times over the remaining 2.5 rounds, land 40 power shots, land 65% of my punches to 40%, and not win a single judge (neither player was stunned after the initial one).

                            I can live with me being stunned and not stunning Ali (even though I landed FAR more big clean shots. That annoys me, but it happens). However, the fact that I still couldn't win even a single judge in the remaining 2 rounds was atrocious. Online needs draws

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                            • phant030
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1232

                              #284
                              Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              Originally posted by BlueNGold
                              I really think it's only coming down to punches thrown, which is ridiculous.

                              I've had the same situations happen and the guy that's thrown more punches always seems to get the decision, assuming one guy doesn't score any knockdowns.
                              I disagree....albeit only two fight...I have been outthrown 2:1; but have won every round....i land about 70% and they land about 40-45%.....i feel their connect could be even lower if I fought more defensively.

                              I'll probably destroy utexas in this manner today to prove my point.
                              Last edited by phant030; 02-04-2011, 10:55 AM.

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                              • Phobia
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 11623

                                #285
                                Re: Fight Night Champion Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                I am uploading the Ali vs Tyson destruction right now. But being how long it is. It takes couple hours for it to render, then hour or so for youtube to upload it. So it is coming. Just a heads up guys

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