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  • rickmitchell22
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 757

    #106
    Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

    Saved me $60 bucks

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    • Flightwhite24
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2005
      • 12094

      #107
      Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

      Originally posted by tcrews
      I can't remember the first game I tinkered with sliders in, but from that point til now. If I'm going to play a sports game, I need the sliders. I would rather have a game with no music, no commentators, no halftime show, no homerun camera, and no dozens of other potential presentation settings. As long as I have working sliders, I can make the game play exactly what I deem to be fun. In my case, a "realistic challenge". A level where you go into every fight, match, game, or anything else, knowing that you have an equal chance of losing as you do winning. But at the same time, your losses will not come from the CPU AI knowing your plays ahead of time, having super stats in crunch time, forced comeback logic, the list goes on.

      I strongly believe one of the subtle, not so talked about reasons that the Show and NBA 2k11 are so revered and praised as the ultimate successes in sports-simulation gaming is because everyone, with the options and sliders that these games provide, end up with a game that becomes completely suited to their liking. EA, for all of their money, manpower, and licenses, have yet to figure out the concept of working sliders. The fact Fight Night is still based on a 1 - 10 system is asinine in and of itself. How "custom" and to your liking can you really make something with only 10 clicks to choose from? It's one thing for them to only have 10 clicks, and it's one thing for them to not be anywhere near as effective as they should be (hey guys, remember me? I'm Fight Night Round 4's "0" setting for counter punch window, and yet, I still existed and you got to see lightning hit the ring every 3 seconds like Zeus was ringside causing it every time he cheered). But for them to flat out do almost nothing? Completely unacceptable. I read this earlier today and hoped for the best. Now that I've attempted it myself? Every bit as bad as everyone is describing it.

      The people I feel the worst for are two types. One, the people that don't even know what a forum is, let alone that they exist for video games, sports games, simulation gamers, sliders, etc. Two, just as bad, people that don't have access to download tuner sets and/or patches. The game they bought today is the game they'll always have.

      I don't care how big EA sports is, or better yet, how big they think they are. You can always fall. Ask any of the dozens of business that are much bigger than EA, that had to declare bankruptcy, close down, downsize, or need huge bailouts to continue to exist. EA is now just as well known as a gimmick pushing video game company that only cares about appealing to the casual fan for profits, as they are for anything else. They don't actually care about the sport they're "trying" to re-create, and it shows every year. They just make video clips of them talking about when they fell in love with this sport or when they started watching that sport, etc. Guess what? Watching the Food Network for 10 years won't make you an expert chef, will it? So why do these guys think having never put on a pair of boxing gloves that they're in some way qualified to define what's simulation and what makes for a realistic game? If they understood, they wouldn't have to create an 8 hour motion picture inside of a game to get sales. It's very, painfully obvious that they don't understand most of the sports they're trying to re-create.

      Congratulations EA. Much like where you're at with football nowadays. You're the only company that even puts out boxing games anymore, and you still manage to make people wish for a non existent game or game company to come along and make one better, often just to put you away for good and leave their sport alone. Pat yourself on the back, you've done it again.
      tcrews what else needs to be said??? You hit the nail on the head with this post. Now if the developers will just take heed at this point. Highly doubt it.
      The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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      • DaveDQ
        13
        • Sep 2003
        • 7664

        #108
        Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

        Not to be purposefully contrary, but I messed with the sliders last night and they worked for me. Stamina, speed, even CPU off. awareness was working.
        Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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        • Nines
          Rookie
          • Oct 2009
          • 244

          #109
          Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

          I like the game.
          Rocket Fuel.

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #110
            Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

            Originally posted by SHAKYR
            I'm jealous because you stilling thunder.... :thumbup: just kidding., we need people in the community like us....passion helps make better games.
            It is what it is man. I love the game, I just see the possibility to make it AMAZING and rise to that level of talked titles such as The Show

            Originally posted by DaveDQ
            Not to be purposefully contrary, but I messed with the sliders last night and they worked for me. Stamina, speed, even CPU off. awareness was working.
            Yea most of the global sliders work, but they only effect it minimally. The other two which most would consider pretty important to make the game sim "offline" is the CPU Output and Boxer accuracy. While they are going to fix the boxer issue which is excellent news. The CPU Output is still going to be a issue. On ZERO with 2min accel clock the CPU fighters will still throw between 70-110 punches a round. If you want to fight full 3 min rounds, then the numbers will be insane high.

            Only way to correct this issue with out the global slider working is through the boxer Tendencies Sliders. I still don't know how you would do Legacy with this. I guess you would be limited to Quick Fights only.

            Originally posted by Nines
            I like the game.
            I had a blast last night fighting my OWC fights.

            Fought a guy who was a button users and threw so much he was soooo exhausted by the 5th round. I KOed him in the 6th with two knock downs!!!

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            • grunt
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 9527

              #111
              Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

              Have anyone tried sliders adjustments with a real 3 minute round?

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              • Phobia
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2008
                • 11623

                #112
                Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                Originally posted by grunt
                Have anyone tried sliders adjustments with a real 3 minute round?
                You will have to adjust the Tendencies Sliders and ratings of each boxer is only way if you want realistic punch numbers.

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                • brrmikey
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 826

                  #113
                  Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                  Originally posted by Phobia
                  You will have to adjust the Tendencies Sliders and ratings of each boxer is only way if you want realistic punch numbers.
                  well, i come from the days of having to change baseball rosters down to the player attributes level for them to play like real life...so this is a walk in the park as long as its effective!!

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                  • Phobia
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11623

                    #114
                    Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                    Originally posted by brrmikey
                    well, i come from the days of having to change baseball rosters down to the player attributes level for them to play like real life...so this is a walk in the park as long as its effective!!
                    Yea well it will work for Fight Now matches. Not sure if this can be done for Legacy mode is the issue.

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                    • ralphieboy11
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 543

                      #115
                      Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                      The sliders are definitely a mystery. I just got the game last night and the only thing I did so far was run a cpu vs. cpu bout between Winky Wright and Miguel Cotto. I bumped their tendencies all the way down to zero to see how low I could get punch output. The output was acceptable(Cotto threw less than 40 in some rounds), but Wright was a little more active in every round. I'm not sure why that would be(Aggressiveness?). Maybe that's just a ratings issue. Plus Wright threw mostly straight punches while Cotto threw mostly jabs. Why would they focus more on those punches when I had bumped the tendency for EVERY punch down to zero? Strange. I'm at work now but I'll play around some more tonight.

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                      • grunt
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9527

                        #116
                        Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                        Originally posted by Phobia
                        You will have to adjust the Tendencies Sliders and ratings of each boxer is only way if you want realistic punch numbers.
                        I wanted to know what are the punch numbers with 3 minute rounds.

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                        • Phobia
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11623

                          #117
                          Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                          Originally posted by grunt
                          I wanted to know what are the punch numbers with 3 minute rounds.
                          Well if 2min rounds are seeing 70-110, I am just taking a guess but I would bet 3 min rounds would see the 100-140 range. I could test it later today.

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                          • SHAKYR
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 1795

                            #118
                            Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                            Originally posted by Phobia
                            Well if 2min rounds are seeing 70-110, I am just taking a guess but I would bet 3 min rounds would see the 100-140 range. I could test it later today.
                            So, that means the "Arm Fatigue isn't doing what it's supposed to do, SMH!
                            Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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                            • Phobia
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11623

                              #119
                              Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                              Originally posted by SHAKYR
                              So, that means the "Arm Fatigue isn't doing what it's supposed to do, SMH!
                              Arm Fatigue only works by throwing punches over and over with one arm. Another words if you throw 10 right hooks over and over the punch will get slower. But it does nothing as far as over the course of a fight.

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                              • SHAKYR
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 1795

                                #120
                                Re: Fight Night Champion Sliders Not Working

                                Originally posted by Phobia
                                Arm Fatigue only works by throwing punches over and over with one arm. Another words if you throw 10 right hooks over and over the punch will get slower. But it does nothing as far as over the course of a fight.
                                I don't have the game yet, nor have I played the Demo. So, the boxer's arms don't have the heavy hard to defend feel to them. They don't lower or they are hard tgo keep up after a huge punch output?
                                Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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