Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

[Steven547]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

im not seeing any issue with the damage. guys cut and bleeding damn near every match. Is this an online issue? Im cool with this tuner/patch...... I could still stand to see the accuracy lowered a bit.

One thing I notice about this game and the community interaction, is that as a whole the community doesn't seem to really know what it wants. Maybe less guys are into boxing or have as much of a handle on the nuances of the sport. So what is wanted is actually less sim and more fun/sim. I won't go as far as saying just sim vs. arcade. But most people seem to be more in-between.

That is what makes this game a tough purchase for me. I frequent these boards and value the opinions when a game comes out, but this game basically has a 50/50 rating...either like it or not. Hard to get a good idea if it's a purchase or not for an offline gamer... Are these issues appearing only online etc?

[fistofrage]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

im not seeing any issue with the damage. guys cut and bleeding damn near every match. Is this an online issue? Im cool with this tuner/patch...... I could still stand to see the accuracy lowered a bit.

One thing I notice about this game and the community interaction, is that as a whole the community doesn't seem to really know what it wants. Maybe less guys are into boxing or have as much of a handle on the nuances of the sport. So what is wanted is actually less sim and more fun/sim. I won't go as far as saying just sim vs. arcade. But most people seem to be more in-between.

Before this patch/tuners I was getting 1 punch KO's and TKO stoppages. Now I am not. That is my biggest gripe with the patch/tuner offline and online it sems to have rewarded body spammers.

I love boxing, but I don't think anyone wants an absolute sim where you could run into a John Ruiz here he would hug you for the entire match. I am fine with a little higher punch count that is in the game. I don't want HW fights that are 20 to 30 punches per round. 40-60 is better for me and the fun of the game.

What I do want though is to have the angles, be rewarded for good strategy and punching while still having fun playing the game. I want to be rewarded for popping the jab and causing a bloddy nose ore some major swelling on the eyes or a cut from a big bowershot. I also want to have to protect a cut or swelling if I was careless early in the fight.

I also want to know that if I lower my guard I could lose at any moment, or if I'm behind, I still have a chance to score the perfect KO.

The patch/tuner would have been fine if they would have only tweaked stamina and accuracy and lowered 1 punch KO frequency slightly. Kept the 1 punch KO's in and left the damage as was or actually increased the damage to comensate for lower connect%.

[jtdribbles25]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

That is what makes this game a tough purchase for me. I frequent these boards and value the opinions when a game comes out, but this game basically has a 50/50 rating...either like it or not. Hard to get a good idea if it's a purchase or not for an offline gamer... Are these issues appearing only online etc?

completely understand your point of view. I like it a lot offline, especially since the changes.

[DaveDQ]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

I just put in a H2H match for the first time since the tuner and it is insane ho the jab snaps the head back. I was using Leonard and just aren't used to that because my OWC guys are slow. I can understand the toughness in facing a spammer with that much speed. Insane.

[jtdribbles25]

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Before this patch/tuners I was getting 1 punch KO's and TKO stoppages. Now I am not. That is my biggest gripe with the patch/tuner offline and online it sems to have rewarded body spammers.

I love boxing, but I don't think anyone wants an absolute sim where you could run into a John Ruiz here he would hug you for the entire match. I am fine with a little higher punch count that is in the game. I don't want HW fights that are 20 to 30 punches per round. 40-60 is better for me and the fun of the game.

What I do want though is to have the angles, be rewarded for good strategy and punching while still having fun playing the game. I want to be rewarded for popping the jab and causing a bloddy nose ore some major swelling on the eyes or a cut from a big bowershot. I also want to have to protect a cut or swelling if I was careless early in the fight.

I also want to know that if I lower my guard I could lose at any moment, or if I'm behind, I still have a chance to score the perfect KO.

The patch/tuner would have been fine if they would have only tweaked stamina and accuracy and lowered 1 punch KO frequency slightly. Kept the 1 punch KO's in and left the damage as was or actually increased the damage to comensate for lower connect%.

I understand your point of view as far as your fun factor. And thats the problem for me. So just as much as you think it would've been fine the way it was I don't agree. I don't think it's fun to have heavies punch 60 per round. Were talking elite guys here. that punch output is ridiculous to me.

I haven't fought enough fights to know that the 1 punch ko's are completely out. but I know that as rare as they are in reality, that there were waaay to many in this game. I've had more 1 knockdown ko's in the game since this tuner however. I'll take that, it's pretty nice.

I even had a fight in which I was soundley beaten on the cards, but was able to secure a knockdown, because I got a ko moment in the 7th and finished him for the win. If he would've gotten up, I probably would've still lost the fight.

So all in all I guess we just disagree on how we would like to see the game play out.

[acts238shaun]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

I've had two 1pko's today in legacy, one on Frazier and one on Dempsey, but it wasn't the one with the cutscene. They just laid there and got counted out.

[fistofrage]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

I've had two 1pko's today in legacy, one on Frazier and one on Dempsey, but it wasn't the one with the cutscene. They just laid there and got counted out.

was it the first kd of the fight?

[acts238shaun]

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was it the first kd of the fight?

Yes. It was in the 6th round for Dempsey and seventh round with Frazier using my sliders on the slider thread. Dempsey had both eyes swollen and his left eye cut from eating jabs all fight. Both were knocked down once. They just laid there and were counted out. They were about 65% on health and stamina though,, just so you know. In the fight after those two Morrison got up three times before i put him down for good in the third. My southpaw legacy fighter is rated about 92 with maxed athleticism, 20's for jab and straight, 18 for rear uppercut and has maxed heart, chin, head movement, blocking and combos.

On the flipside Frazier was killing me with the hooks and dempsey was hurting me when he could corner me. Frazier nearly flash KD'd me with a UC, but I was able to clinch quickly.

[DereckM]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

I think they could actually take the accuracy down just a bit more. I really dont want to see Heavy weights throwing 60 punches per round. After that amount of punching they should be really tired.

I have seen a few 1pko's since the patch and I have only played about 10 matches. 2 out of ten is really not too bad. I mean these are the best guys fighting the best guys. Not the best vs bums. I really dont think we should see many 1pko's. They actually dont happen that often in real life. The game is more fun for me the closer we can emulate the real life sport.

[fistofrage]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

I think they could actually take the accuracy down just a bit more. I really dont want to see Heavy weights throwing 60 punches per round. After that amount of punching they should be really tired.

I have seen a few 1pko's since the patch and I have only played about 10 matches. 2 out of ten is really not too bad. I mean these are the best guys fighting the best guys. Not the best vs bums. I really dont think we should see many 1pko's. They actually dont happen that often in real life. The game is more fun for me the closer we can emulate the real life sport.

Here's the deal about 1 punch KO's. The reason I lile them is because every other knockdown, you can get up at 2 the first time you are knocked down. Thats not realistic. If you got rocked in real life by a perfect punch, there is a good chance you wouldn't get up by the count of 10. Because the game doesn't work like that, I would rather have it that we have 1 punch KO's that can end the fight.

I know putting someone completely asleep is pretty rare,,,,,,,,But not as rare as Hitting someone dead nuts square and have them get up at 2. I'd be fine with 1 punch KO's being very rare if first knockdown count outs existed in the game.

[jtdribbles25]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

Here's the deal about 1 punch KO's. The reason I lile them is because every other knockdown, you can get up at 2 the first time you are knocked down. Thats not realistic. If you got rocked in real life by a perfect punch, there is a good chance you wouldn't get up by the count of 10. Because the game doesn't work like that, I would rather have it that we have 1 punch KO's that can end the fight.

I know putting someone completely asleep is pretty rare,,,,,,,,But not as rare as Hitting someone dead nuts square and have them get up at 2. I'd be fine with 1 punch KO's being very rare if first knockdown count outs existed in the game.

First knockdown count outs are happening now. I don't know if thats due to the tuner or not, but I've seen 3 or 4 of em....Now, if that doesn't seem to necessarily be the case in user/user games or when you get knocked down is unknown to me at this point.

[fistofrage]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

First knockdown count outs are happening now. I don't know if thats due to the tuner or not, but I've seen 3 or 4 of em....Now, if that doesn't seem to necessarily be the case in user/user games or when you get knocked down is unknown to me at this point.

I'm not getting that offline or online. In fact I guarantee that even on GOAT if I am knocked down, I can get up at 2 every time. Once pre-patch I was Cotto and I caught Mosely and they gave him a 10 count on the 1st knockdown, but that was the only time I have seen it.

On another note, I was just playing and fought a guy, I was plodding and biding my time through 7 rounds, stick and move staying away from the body jab. I thought for sure I was ahead through 7, I had only won 1 round. So I was baffled, so I went out to mix it up against a tired boxer and trake to close the gap. I landed 57-105 punches he landed 30-70 mostly body shots. He won the round on all cards, no knockdowns.

I won in the 10th round after knocking him down for the 5th time, 1 in the 8th 2 in the 9th, 2 in the 10th. Despite landing 54% of my punches and landing 400+ for the fight, he was still ahead heading into the 10th if he would have avoided that last knockdown, he would have won on the cards.....

[Build_Destroy]

Re: Tuner just dropped...all I can say is WOW

First knockdown count outs are happening now. I don't know if thats due to the tuner or not, but I've seen 3 or 4 of em....Now, if that doesn't seem to necessarily be the case in user/user games or when you get knocked down is unknown to me at this point.

Something tells me the patch/tuner has either been modified or deleted for OWC matches...when it first dropped cuts and swelling were non existent , then all of a sudden my last two fights i recieved a cut within the first 3 rounds like days of old...seems like accuracy along with counters and flash knockdowns have reappeared too....just wondering if anyone else noticed this

[phillyfan23]

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amid all this confusion if the tuner does this or that or if it has been modified...

can someone please help by telling me how to delete the tuner from my PS3???

I know how to delete the patch? How do i get rid of the tuner on my ps3?

The removal of true 1 punch KO just doesn't sit well with me.

[jtdribbles25]

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I'm not getting that offline or online. In fact I guarantee that even on GOAT if I am knocked down, I can get up at 2 every time. Once pre-patch I was Cotto and I caught Mosely and they gave him a 10 count on the 1st knockdown, but that was the only time I have seen it.

On another note, I was just playing and fought a guy, I was plodding and biding my time through 7 rounds, stick and move staying away from the body jab. I thought for sure I was ahead through 7, I had only won 1 round. So I was baffled, so I went out to mix it up against a tired boxer and trake to close the gap. I landed 57-105 punches he landed 30-70 mostly body shots. He won the round on all cards, no knockdowns.

I won in the 10th round after knocking him down for the 5th time, 1 in the 8th 2 in the 9th, 2 in the 10th. Despite landing 54% of my punches and landing 400+ for the fight, he was still ahead heading into the 10th if he would have avoided that last knockdown, he would have won on the cards.....

gotcha... I haven't had it happen to me either once Im knocked down, but I've seen it several times against the cpu.