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  • SHAKYR
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    • Nov 2003
    • 1795

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    EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"



    Bugs in Fallout: New Vegas might have eaten your save file. Maybe they took away a few hours of progress, or forced you to reset a couple of quests. Maybe
    Last edited by SHAKYR; 10-21-2017, 09:03 PM.
    Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.
  • sheredia
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2350

    #2
    Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

    your post speaks for itself.....thank you.

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    • jmarcguy
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      • Dec 2009
      • 1322

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      EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

      Looking at the WWE game by 2k, I wouldn't mind them taking a crack at boxing. I don't know how that game played but it looks amazing.


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      Last edited by jmarcguy; 10-25-2017, 10:59 AM.

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      • pk500
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        • Jul 2002
        • 8062

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        Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

        Originally posted by jmarcguy
        Looking at the WWE game by 2k, I wouldn't mind them taking a crack at boxing. I don't how how that game played but it looks amazing.


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        If there was financial viability for a new boxing game, it would be made. Sadly, the numbers don't add up.
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        • SHAKYR
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          • Nov 2003
          • 1795

          #5
          Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

          Originally posted by pk500
          If there was financial viability for a new boxing game, it would be made. Sadly, the numbers don't add up.
          Why are people keep repeating what the developers are saying. They gave "5" different excuses to why a boxing videogame hasn't been made. I emailed EA CEO Andrew Wilson and he is at least straight forward with an answer. He said their main focus is on the UFC game.
          Poe is an advocate for realistic boxing videogames.

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          • pk500
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 8062

            #6
            Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

            Originally posted by SHAKYR
            Why are people keep repeating what the developers are saying. They gave "5" different excuses to why a boxing videogame hasn't been made. I emailed EA CEO Andrew Wilson and he is at least straight forward with an answer. He said their main focus is on the UFC game.
            Please, man.

            Why do you think EA is focusing on UFC instead of boxing? Because UFC is hotter than boxing -- for now -- in America and has more recognizable athletes to the average American sports fan, such as McGregor and Rousey (at least for UFC 2).

            Who is the active poster boy for boxing to put on the cover of a Fight Night 5? What boxer right now, considering Mayweather is retired and Pacquiao is shot, is the face of the sport in mainstream America. Canelo? Please. He's Mexican and doesn't speak English in public. Golovkin? Please. Crawford? Come on; he's barely known outside of Omaha.

            The answer? No one.

            It's a metaphor for the state of the sport in the United States right now. It's in a transition phase between the stars of the last generation (Mayweather, Marquez, RJJ, Pacquiao, Hatton, Cotto) and the next stars of the sport. It's no different than in the early 80s, between the retirement of Ali and the rise of Tyson.

            You also write as if EA doesn't have the resources to commit to a boxing game right now, which is absolute BS. EA is the biggest damn sports gaming developer on Earth. It could make a boxing game if there were strong market demand and a strong probability of profitability, especially when considering the difficulty of licensing boxing due to the Wild West tapestry of competing interests controlling the sport.

            Neither exist, so the game isn't made. It's really as simple as that.

            Yet you continue to promote the myth that a horde of American gamers are all but begging EA to make a boxing game, and the big, bad gaming colossus is denying this throng its wish due to limited resources or some sort of non-existent agreement with UFC to focus only on its game as EA's exclusive combat sport product.
            Last edited by pk500; 10-25-2017, 08:54 PM.
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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #7
              Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

              Originally posted by SHAKYR
              He said their main focus is on the UFC game.
              ....because its more financially viable. LOL.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #8
                Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                Originally posted by pk500
                Please, man.

                Why do you think EA is focusing on UFC instead of boxing? Because UFC is hotter than boxing -- for now -- in America and has more recognizable athletes to the average American sports fan, such as McGregor and Rousey (at least for UFC 2).

                Who is the active poster boy for boxing to put on the cover of a Fight Night 5? What boxer right now, considering Mayweather is retired and Pacquiao is shot, is the face of the sport in mainstream America. Canelo? Please. He's Mexican and doesn't speak English in public. Golovkin? Please. Crawford? Come on; he's barely known outside of Omaha.

                The answer? No one.

                It's a metaphor for the state of the sport in the United States right now. It's in a transition phase between the stars of the last generation (Mayweather, Marquez, RJJ, Pacquiao, Hatton, Cotto) and the next stars of the sport. It's no different than in the early 80s, between the retirement of Ali and the rise of Tyson.

                You also write as if EA doesn't have the resources to commit to a boxing game right now, which is absolute BS. EA is the biggest damn sports gaming developer on Earth. It could make a boxing game if there were strong market demand and a strong probability of profitability, especially when considering the difficulty of licensing boxing due to the Wild West tapestry of competing interests controlling the sport.

                Neither exist, so the game isn't made. It's really as simple as that.

                Yet you continue to promote the myth that a horde of American gamers are all but begging EA to make a boxing game, and the big, bad gaming colossus is denying this throng its wish due to limited resources or some sort of non-existent agreement with UFC to focus only on its game as EA's exclusive combat sport product.
                Thats what kills me about his "debate". He keep making points about how high the demand is for a boxing game, how FN outsold UFC and about how FN games are rated higher than FNC.....when NO ONE is debating that. No one. Absolutely no one.

                The FN games were better games than the first two UFC games so they should be rated higher (We will see what happens when 3 comes out because it looks and plays good right now).

                The FN games should sell more than the UFC games. Boxing as a whole is more popular than MMA overall. It should be. Its been a round for thousands of years. MMA has been around for less than 40. There are people from PK and my generation who were raised boxing fans and would never consider watching MMA.

                All of those points dont take away the fact that a UFC game is cheaper to produce and that UFC's sales arent that far behind FN. Put those two together and that makes a game thats more profitable and thats all the EA and its shareholders care about.

                5 yrs from now things may be different. Guys like Crawford, Loma, Spence, Wilder, Joshua and others may be household names by then and become perfect for the cover. PBC may go under and more fighters will be under the same promotional banner (which will make them easier to sign).

                But right now, the money is on UFC because its easier and cheaper to produce. He should stop looking for other answers when the right one is being told to him constantly.

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                • Jukeman
                  Showtime
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10955

                  #9
                  Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                  Does a current boxer being on he cover matter? it didn't before in the history of boxing games...

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #10
                    Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                    Originally posted by Jukeman
                    Does a current boxer being on he cover matter? it didn't before in the history of boxing games...
                    They could go with a classic boxer again but when you are trying to sell to a 18-36 market, its probably good to go with a boxer they have seen. Shoot most 36 year olds only remember the post jail Tyson. I've always thought the best approach would be to open the vault for Floyd but thats risky because of how much he would demand.

                    Also how many classic boxers could sell a game right now other than Tyson?

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                    • SHAKYR
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                      • Nov 2003
                      • 1795

                      #11
                      Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      They could go with a classic boxer again but when you are trying to sell to a 18-36 market, its probably good to go with a boxer they have seen. Shoot most 36 year olds only remember the post jail Tyson. I've always thought the best approach would be to open the vault for Floyd but thats risky because of how much he would demand.

                      Also how many classic boxers could sell a game right now other than Tyson?
                      Fight Night Champion sold quite a few with fictitious Andre Bishop on some of it's covers. EA misstep is they forget that an older demographic plays sports games especially boxing. There are many over 35-40 year olds who want a boxing videogame.


                      Last edited by SHAKYR; 10-27-2017, 12:18 AM.
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                      • sheredia
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                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2350

                        #12
                        Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                        Originally posted by SHAKYR
                        Fight Night Champion sold quite a few with fictitious Andre Bishop on some of it's covers. EA misstep is they forget that an older demographic plays sports games especially boxing. There are many over 35-40 year olds who want a boxing videogame.


                        http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=200146
                        true.....not only that, many movies are made about boxing too. creed 2 is coming out sometime soon as well. how many movies have been made about mixed martial arts? they can make ufc 3, 4 etc. but they will never get a higher score than fight night, boxing is just more enjoyable and easier to play, that's the truth.

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                        • SHAKYR
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                          • Nov 2003
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                          #13
                          Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                          The demographic is larger than these producers are saying. Sports Videogames have a bigger age range than what's being advertised.
                          Last edited by SHAKYR; 10-27-2017, 04:47 AM.
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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10955

                            #14
                            Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                            Creed theme fight night would be nice. I would actually be interested in the storyline mode.


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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #15
                              Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

                              Originally posted by SHAKYR
                              Fight Night Champion sold quite a few with fictitious Andre Bishop on some of it's covers. EA misstep is they forget that an older demographic plays sports games especially boxing. There are many over 35-40 year olds who want a boxing videogame.


                              http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=200146
                              Tyson and Ali are also on the cover. Also FNC sold almost a million copies less than FN4. I'm not saying that having a fictional boxer was the sole reason for it selling less...but it didnt help.

                              You are arguing a point that no one is making again. No one said that people over 40 dont want a boxing game. What I'm saying is that gaming companies tend to focus on the 18-36 age range and other than Floyd and Manny there arent any fighters that could carry a cover. That range also has no connection to the Ali and Frazier and barely one to Tyson

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