EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

[aholbert32]

Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

Those games sucked...Also the Creed game that was somewhat ok was a mobile game. Not to mention the Rocky games were years later when the bad movies were coming out and a new generation of children were playing games.


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Creed wasnt THAT popular. It was a successful movie but not enough to base a whole boxing game on imo.

[aholbert32]

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A mixed of modern and classic fighters would be fine. The idea of someone needing to be a cover athlete is a gimmick EA came up with so they are shooting their self in the foot needing to overpay for licenses. All boxing fans want is a great boxing game that is customizable.

The game would do fine if both Canelo and GGG were on the cover together especially if the game was pushed with the hype of the fight.


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LOL.....Huh?

Mike Tyson's Punchout came out in 1987 and he was on the cover. That was before EA ever created a single sports game. Where the hell did you get that from?

Also you overestimating Canelo and GGG's popularity in the US if you think they can carry a game.

[aholbert32]

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EA problem has always been they seem to make games for 12-22 year olds. I discussed this numerous times especially when they love to call their games realistic to the sport.
If they did a survey to see the age group on this forum. It would be more adults than teenagers. Operation Sports has shown videogame companies that they older sports fans make a difference in their sales.

FNC was rated M so I dont know how they were marketing to children under 18 with that game. All the UFC games are rated Teen but there is no evidence any of those games have been marketed to children. The main demo for sports games is 18-36. Hayes said as much in the interview you posted.

That doesnt mean that they ignore older demos, it just means they focus on a demo that is more likely to regularly spend money on video games.

[aholbert32]

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I know for a fact when I was EA Community Leader for Fight Night Round 4 they never really focused on the true boxing fans when making their boxing videogames.

Well thats different with UFC. In the UFC gamechangers, they have a former MMA fighter and BJJ competitor. They have a guy who has been a student of martial arts (kickboxing/Muay Thai) for over a decade.

They have an MMA nerd (me) who's played every MMA game created and has watched thousands (**** maybe tens of thousands) of MMA fights.

Do the devs agree with every suggestion we give? Hell no but they have given us way more input into the upcoming game than I wouldve expected. I cant wait until I can talk about all of the things weve been permitted to give input on.

I wish that was the case with other games like Madden/NHL etc but it doesnt appear to be the case.

[SHAKYR]

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Well thats different with UFC. In the UFC gamechangers, they have a former MMA fighter and BJJ competitor. They have a guy who has been a student of martial arts (kickboxing/Muay Thai) for over a decade.

They have an MMA nerd (me) who's played every MMA game created and has watched thousands (**** maybe tens of thousands) of MMA fights.

Do the devs agree with every suggestion we give? Hell no but they have given us way more input into the upcoming game than I wouldve expected. I cant wait until I can talk about all of the things weve been permitted to give input on.

I wish that was the case with other games like Madden/NHL etc but it doesnt appear to be the case.

I had well over 15 years of boxing knowledge at the time. I even boxed am and pro with 3x Golden Gloves, 3x Diamond Gloves and 3 NJ state titles. This how I knew so many boxers I tried to get on the game. I guess they opened up a little. I saw most of my Fight Night wishlist ideas put in the last two UFC games(still didn't interest me)

[SHAKYR]

Re: EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

FNC was rated M so I dont know how they were marketing to children under 18 with that game. All the UFC games are rated Teen but there is no evidence any of those games have been marketed to children. The main demo for sports games is 18-36. Hayes said as much in the interview you posted.

That doesnt mean that they ignore older demos, it just means they focus on a demo that is more likely to regularly spend money on video games.

One of the producers clearly said a M rated game doesn't stop kids because Call of Duty sells well to young fanbase.

[aholbert32]

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One of the producers clearly said a M rated game doesn't stop kids because Call of Duty sells well to young fanbase.

You are arguing against a point im not making. I'm not saying kids cant buy M games. They can if their parent buys it for them. I said that EA isnt actively marketing to people who are 12-18 when it comes to combat sports games.

[SHAKYR]

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You are arguing against a point im not making. I'm not saying kids cant buy M games. They can do if their parent buys it for them. I said that EA isnt actively marketing to people who are 12-18 when it comes to combat sports games.

[aholbert32]

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What point are you trying to make with these covers? The combat sports game that you just showed is rated Teen and those covers arent specifically marketing to 12-18 yr olds.

[sheredia]

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Those games sucked...Also the Creed game that was somewhat ok was a mobile game. Not to mention the Rocky games were years later when the bad movies were coming out and a new generation of children were playing games.


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exactly....not only that creed was a great movie and would have been a perfect tie in for the champion mode. not saying the story they had wasn't good, but if it was based off of a movie franchise with recognizable characters, even better. i actually did a career mode using a created adonis creed and it makes it better for me. the only thing was, i wasn't able to create boxers (from the movie) to use in the mode to have adonis match up against conlan for the title (can't have everything, i guess).

[Culture Rot]

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Here's the truth. Ea only wanted to produce one "combat" sport game. Sometime around 2013-2014 they had their eye on ufc. They let go of boxing, and a few years later got the ufc license. There won't be another ea sports boxing game until ea no longer has the ufc license. They won't make a MMA and boxing game. I'm not saying I agree with the stance.

[jmarcguy]

EA producers and community Administrators, "Metacritic scores hold weight"

I don't have anything to add to the debate about whether a new game would be popular. I'm just disappointed because for me, there was always a boxing game. I go back to ...Atari so I realize those were different times. I remember boxing games without any actual boxers. Audiences are much more sophisticated now & the demands are greater. Games weren't as expensive to make then either.

Boxing has had a decent year but it's not mainstream here in the US anymore. Combat sports in general are more frowned upon I think with all the discussion about brain injuries in other sports. I hope it does make some sort of comeback. There was a time when I actually turned over during the Super Bowl to watch an ESPN fight. I remember going to school & everyone talking about the upcoming Leonard / Hagler fight or about Tyson. I had a boxing game on every console I played. It's a downer that there aren't any on the horizon.


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[SHAKYR]

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If boxing wasn't doing so great why does Dana White want a piece of the action?!? There are a few articles that say next year he's promoting boxing events. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blo...regor-mma-news

[aholbert32]

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If boxing wasn't doing so great why does Dana White want a piece of the action?!? There are a few articles that say next year he's promoting boxing events. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blo...regor-mma-news

No one ever said Boxing wasnt doing well.

[jmarcguy]

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Boxing is having a solid year. There have been some good fights.


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