People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night 2

[Atman]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

A powerful "normal" straight right would ruin gameplay because there would be little to no incentive to throw anything else. If a straight is as or more powerful than an uppercut or hook, then why throw those punches at all when the straight is so much faster and easier to hit your opponent with? I suppose they could add a trigger button so you can load up on your straight rights, but I don't see how that would be functionally any different than throwing a "haymaker" right hook. *shrugs*

I did test the strength of each punch on an idle Ray Robinson and found the straight right to be significantly more powerful than the jab. It took 63 jabs to knock down Ray while it only took 48 straight rights.

[Atman]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

A powerful "normal" straight right would ruin gameplay because there would be little to no incentive to throw anything else. If a straight is as or more powerful than an uppercut or hook, then why throw those punches at all when the straight is so much faster and easier to hit your opponent with? I suppose they could add a trigger button so you can load up on your straight rights, but I don't see how that would be functionally any different than throwing a "haymaker" right hook. *shrugs*

I did test the strength of each punch on an idle Ray Robinson and found the straight right to be significantly more powerful than the jab. It took 63 jabs to knock down Ray while it only took 48 straight rights.

[JayBee74]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

I did test the strength of each punch on an idle Ray Robinson and found the straight right to be significantly more powerful than the jab. It took 63 jabs to knock down Ray while it only took 48 straight rights.

That's not significantly more powerful. If I'm not mistaken, tests I did with last year's game had the cross TWICE as powerful as the jab, 2.5 times weaker than the hook, and 3 times weaker than the uppercut. The cross is getting no respect but I see you're point about the ability to more easily land a cross than an upperut. The cross is faster, longer, and more accurate.

[JayBee74]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

I did test the strength of each punch on an idle Ray Robinson and found the straight right to be significantly more powerful than the jab. It took 63 jabs to knock down Ray while it only took 48 straight rights.

That's not significantly more powerful. If I'm not mistaken, tests I did with last year's game had the cross TWICE as powerful as the jab, 2.5 times weaker than the hook, and 3 times weaker than the uppercut. The cross is getting no respect but I see you're point about the ability to more easily land a cross than an upperut. The cross is faster, longer, and more accurate.

[Nkredible]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

That's not significantly more powerful. If I'm not mistaken, tests I did with last year's game had the cross TWICE as powerful as the jab, 2.5 times weaker than the hook, and 3 times weaker than the uppercut. The cross is getting no respect but I see you're point about the ability to more easily land a cross than an upperut. The cross is faster, longer, and more accurate.

maybe it just means the jab is more powerful now...which is a GOOD thing...and maybe they just kept the str8 the same...i dont know

..but i do agree with dude uptop who said if the str8 was as powerful as the uppercut and hooks it would be very cheap..because its faster and u can reach farther with a str8 than you can with an uppercut or hook...there would be no reason to use the hooks/uppercuts because you could just keep your distance and throw right str8's all fight....

..only thing i see now after playing the demo for a couple days str8 is that i wish the jab could be thrown multiple times a lil quicker...like last year's game you could throw ...lets say 3 jabs... faster than you can in this one...

[Nkredible]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

That's not significantly more powerful. If I'm not mistaken, tests I did with last year's game had the cross TWICE as powerful as the jab, 2.5 times weaker than the hook, and 3 times weaker than the uppercut. The cross is getting no respect but I see you're point about the ability to more easily land a cross than an upperut. The cross is faster, longer, and more accurate.

maybe it just means the jab is more powerful now...which is a GOOD thing...and maybe they just kept the str8 the same...i dont know

..but i do agree with dude uptop who said if the str8 was as powerful as the uppercut and hooks it would be very cheap..because its faster and u can reach farther with a str8 than you can with an uppercut or hook...there would be no reason to use the hooks/uppercuts because you could just keep your distance and throw right str8's all fight....

..only thing i see now after playing the demo for a couple days str8 is that i wish the jab could be thrown multiple times a lil quicker...like last year's game you could throw ...lets say 3 jabs... faster than you can in this one...

[JayBee74]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

maybe it just means the jab is more powerful now...which is a GOOD thing...and maybe they just kept the str8 the same...i dont know

From what I've been hearing the two power punches, the hook and uppercut, are not as powerful as they were in last year's game, at least not without the benefeit of a haymaker amplifier.
If this is true the jab's overall power would relatively increase because of the decrease in the power of the non enhanced hook and uppercut. But the big question is,"Is the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab better than last year's game?". Also, will the ability to punch while moving increase the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab?

[JayBee74]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

maybe it just means the jab is more powerful now...which is a GOOD thing...and maybe they just kept the str8 the same...i dont know

From what I've been hearing the two power punches, the hook and uppercut, are not as powerful as they were in last year's game, at least not without the benefeit of a haymaker amplifier.
If this is true the jab's overall power would relatively increase because of the decrease in the power of the non enhanced hook and uppercut. But the big question is,"Is the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab better than last year's game?". Also, will the ability to punch while moving increase the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab?

[Money99]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night 2

victorius boxers started the innovation but i wouldnt call that game realistic due to the fact you cant use any boxing strategies.

I highly disagree. You had to use strategy all the time. Every fighter had strengths and weaknesses that you had to exploit to win.
I played VB for over a year without ever getting bored of it. FN 2004 started collecting dust after 1 month of play for me.

With VB there were dozens of fighters with different styles. In FN there were 2. They either ran or they brawled. Hopefully they've fixed this for Rd2.
Also, VB2 boasts perhaps the greatest career mode of any sports title. I hope that FN2 has at least a tenth of the depth of that game.

[Money99]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night 2

victorius boxers started the innovation but i wouldnt call that game realistic due to the fact you cant use any boxing strategies.

I highly disagree. You had to use strategy all the time. Every fighter had strengths and weaknesses that you had to exploit to win.
I played VB for over a year without ever getting bored of it. FN 2004 started collecting dust after 1 month of play for me.

With VB there were dozens of fighters with different styles. In FN there were 2. They either ran or they brawled. Hopefully they've fixed this for Rd2.
Also, VB2 boasts perhaps the greatest career mode of any sports title. I hope that FN2 has at least a tenth of the depth of that game.

[Vast]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

But the big question is,"Is the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab better than last year's game?". Also, will the ability to punch while moving increase the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab?

The answer to that my friend is ABSO FREAKIN LUTELY!! I love the jab in this game oh man!! I jab comin in , I jab while stepin back im tellin I float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

[Vast]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

But the big question is,"Is the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab better than last year's game?". Also, will the ability to punch while moving increase the EFFECTIVENESS of the jab?

The answer to that my friend is ABSO FREAKIN LUTELY!! I love the jab in this game oh man!! I jab comin in , I jab while stepin back im tellin I float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

[JayBee74]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

The answer to that my friend is ABSO FREAKIN LUTELY!! I love the jab in this game oh man!! I jab comin in , I jab while stepin back im tellin I float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

ABSO FREAKIN LUTELY!! That's a pretty strong endorsement. The punch while being able to move may be the best addition to this game.

[JayBee74]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

The answer to that my friend is ABSO FREAKIN LUTELY!! I love the jab in this game oh man!! I jab comin in , I jab while stepin back im tellin I float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

ABSO FREAKIN LUTELY!! That's a pretty strong endorsement. The punch while being able to move may be the best addition to this game.

[Pared]

Re: People attacked me when i didnt agree with "moving while punching" in Fight Night

This is SO typical EA bullcrap. In every one of their sports games they'll think up some stupid gimmic and then overuse the crap out of it.
In real life if any boxer stalked their opponent with their arm cocked they'd get beat down. The fact that you can only interrupt a haybmaker with another haymaker or parry is completely unrealistic. Why does EA have to do this with all their games? I can see this being a HUGE online problem and thousands of people are going to complain about it. And then when OS does an interview for FN Rd3 Kudo will say "Last years haymaker feature was flawed. We've fixed it. But this year, check out our all new "Lightning Jab" feature! You can now throw 1500 jabs in a second and the only way to avoid it is to do a sweep kick! It's gonna be awesome!"

I'm done with EA. They've destroyed every sports game they've ever created with all their dumb "features" and "innovations" (with the exception of Madden, who only improved their game because of the 2K series).
Here's an idea. Why don't you make a game that realistically represents the sport? Now there's a concept.

My only hope is that Sega makes a boxing game or VB3 gets created and published in the US.

OMFG The world is over, the sky is falling!!!

So much for actually playing a game before actually making a judgement call on it. Way to go.