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  • mdiggitydawg
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 475

    #106
    Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

    Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
    Career mode is a nice sandbox, pretty dynamic. Once they add in a bit of flare and presentation it’ll be a keeper. If I’m not mistaken training mini games, press conferences, etc are on the way, as well as upwards of 50 + more boxers coming in 6 man packs every few weeks. There’s a few things slated to be patched in December which hopefully makes the overall gameplay experience better
    Would love them to address the gameplay issues, like the inability to chase down or even walk towards a stunned opponent....some of those fixes and more boxers would be great... career, I found I had to lose about 13 times before I started winning consistently and moving up in length and challenge.

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    • BitTexas
      Rookie
      • Sep 2022
      • 86

      #107
      Re: Undisputed impression

      Originally posted by Johnny_Montesinos
      This right here. I'm 57 and I'm also really enjoying this game for what it is, I'm pretty much exclusively an offline player, & I'm really enjoying career mode and also creating dream matchups going up against the AI, I'm also very thankful to have a boxing game.

      Hey buddy...almost same age as you...born in "68

      How can you compare this to fight night? Im just looking for some good ol' boxing game Although the price is kinda steep for me...but if its worth it then I'll buy...otherwise ill wait for thanksgiving/christmas sales.

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      • Gotmadskillzson
        Live your life
        • Apr 2008
        • 23439

        #108
        Re: Undisputed impression

        The patch today made blocking way too good in the game now. Also they nerfed the hell out of hooks and straights. The stamina hit is insane now if you throw more then 3 hooks in a row. They also severely increased the stamina hit for power shots too. So now more then ever you really have to rely on your jab because that is the only thing that didn't receive a stamina hit.

        Stamina is still unbalanced between the USER and CPU though. Also noticed counters are way more powerful now. Hit detection is still very much problematic however.

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21793

          #109
          Re: Undisputed impression

          Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
          The patch today made blocking way too good in the game now. Also they nerfed the hell out of hooks and straights. The stamina hit is insane now if you throw more then 3 hooks in a row. They also severely increased the stamina hit for power shots too. So now more then ever you really have to rely on your jab because that is the only thing that didn't receive a stamina hit.

          Stamina is still unbalanced between the USER and CPU though. Also noticed counters are way more powerful now. Hit detection is still very much problematic however.
          The game sounds like a huge mess.
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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #110
            Re: Undisputed impression

            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
            The game sounds like a huge mess.
            Seems like the majority of Early Access was like this and its carried over into release. They just can't seem to nail down the balance of the core aspects of boxing.

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            • BadAssHskr
              XSX
              • Jun 2003
              • 3534

              #111
              Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

              I so badly want this game to be a success. Every time I get the urge to buy it I come here to see what’s up and I keep backing out.
              "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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              • Lionz67
                Rookie
                • May 2024
                • 40

                #112
                Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                I personally think the game plays fantastically well!
                There are some things that will need addressing, but overall this game plays a very nice sim style boxing game.
                Find a league like TrueSim Boxing League and you are good to go!

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                • mdiggitydawg
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 475

                  #113
                  Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                  PLEASE FIX THE QUICKSAND I AM IN WHEN I STUN AN OPPONENT!!!!!

                  It Literally kills the experience as one can rarely "Put away" a challenger when they are hurt....

                  If you can fix this one aspect, the rest is tolerable..almost

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                  • Armor and Sword
                    The Lama
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21793

                    #114
                    Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                    I picked it up today on the PSN Black Friday Sale.

                    Initial quick impressions are very positive.

                    First of all…..we have a boxing game again. So good to finally have one after a long long wait.

                    Punching feels snappy and good. Graphics are damn good. Stamina and strategy are absolutely in this game and you actually have to box!! It’s not a spam fest.

                    I am going to stick to intermediate/simulation on quick matches to test all the different fighters etc and stream some classic matchups this evening.

                    I am really looking forward to getting a lot more classic boxers via DLC and hopefully boxer share will unlock on the PS5 in a future update and the ability to create classic boxers with proper ratings.

                    Overall though this feels like a solid effort thus far as I know more support is coming.

                    Also career mode is pretty damn good.
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                    • sheredia
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2351

                      #115
                      Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      I picked it up today on the PSN Black Friday Sale.

                      Initial quick impressions are very positive.

                      First of all…..we have a boxing game again. So good to finally have one after a long long wait.

                      Punching feels snappy and good. Graphics are damn good. Stamina and strategy are absolutely in this game and you actually have to box!! It’s not a spam fest.

                      I am going to stick to intermediate/simulation on quick matches to test all the different fighters etc and stream some classic matchups this evening.

                      I am really looking forward to getting a lot more classic boxers via DLC and hopefully boxer share will unlock on the PS5 in a future update and the ability to create classic boxers with proper ratings.

                      Overall though this feels like a solid effort thus far as I know more support is coming.

                      Also career mode is pretty damn good.
                      just picked it up too and agree with your comments. boxer share is essential if quite a few legends (and current some fighters) are missing. also, capping out the stats at 81 hurts, especially if we want higher stats for offline play. the create-a-fighter tools are pretty extensive, so that's nice. no vegas or new york venues are an odd omission. some better create-a-fighter nicknames would be welcome too.

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                      • Lionz67
                        Rookie
                        • May 2024
                        • 40

                        #116
                        Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                        This game is amazing, but, still a few issues to fine tune. But some of the complaints about punch tracking, stamina and ghost punches are all something that you can control.
                        The best way is to make sure you are hardwired first off and then play the game through SharePlay or Parsec. You will not have any lag and that eliminates the ghost punching. Punch tracking issues come down to footwork. You have to be aware of where your feet are in relation to your opponent when letting your fists fly. Stamina… take your time and pick your spots, ease off on the power shots and you will be fine.

                        I hope to see some of you in the ring at some point

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                        • kingsofthevalley
                          MVP
                          • May 2011
                          • 1962

                          #117
                          Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                          Originally posted by Lionz67
                          This game is amazing, but, still a few issues to fine tune. But some of the complaints about punch tracking, stamina and ghost punches are all something that you can control.
                          The best way is to make sure you are hardwired first off and then play the game through SharePlay or Parsec. You will not have any lag and that eliminates the ghost punching. Punch tracking issues come down to footwork. You have to be aware of where your feet are in relation to your opponent when letting your fists fly. Stamina… take your time and pick your spots, ease off on the power shots and you will be fine.

                          I hope to see some of you in the ring at some point
                          The punch tracking issue has grown 100s of legs and ran off in different directions I'm noticing. To pull the reigns back in and focus on what the issue was originally (and is now), is referring to the lack of being able to use "weaving" (hold LT weave) to dodge punches. The punches just follow (track you) and connect, regardless of the "lean" or timing of lean (weave). Leaning back is the only direction that will actually avoid punches.

                          Don't get this confused with the "slip" mechanic, which DOES allow for you to evade punches but is extremely unintuitive to pull off. Not sure why they would separate the "slip" and "weave", that was a very bizarre decision. They're the EXACT same thing, however, one works and one doesn't do anything at all. Oddly, the one that isn't intuitive or really make sense to try and pull off during the heat of a fight is the one that works, and the normal "weave" which is very intuitive (already proven in previous combat sports titles) and smooth to pull off in the heat of it all, doesn't do anything. The "weave" is supposed to be effective and produce the results that you get from the "slip" but it does not because the punch tracking for some reason is locked on to you when trying to weave (hold LT weave).

                          Think of Fight Night Champion, remember how you could move the left stick left/right with the left trigger and actively slip punches? Thats what we're getting at. The inability to use the stick and sway out of the way of punches completely renders inside fighting obsolete because there's really no way to stay in front of your opponent and successfully NOT get hit without an effective weave mechanic.

                          Another visual I can provide, is think of how classic Mike Tyson used to close distance (moving his head left and right while approaching). You could effectively do this intuitively with timing/stick skills (or something similar) in every combat sports game made for the most part, it was pretty much made a staple early on in the Fight Night series but for some reason, it was implemented, but doesn't work in Undisputed.

                          Hope that made sense.
                          Last edited by kingsofthevalley; 11-24-2024, 01:19 PM.

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                          • Lionz67
                            Rookie
                            • May 2024
                            • 40

                            #118
                            Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                            I do believe that the weave issue will get attention in the Dec patch. I also expect to see clinching being brought back. They had to take it out because it was just completely broken.

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                            • kingsofthevalley
                              MVP
                              • May 2011
                              • 1962

                              #119
                              Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                              Absolutely, I’m fully aware of the story of the clinch, why it was removed and that it will make a return. However, as far as the weave being addressed, I’ve never heard the devs even “off hand” acknowledge that it was ever a problem. That’s what worries me. Also, I haven’t even heard about it in various comment sections (which is odd as well).

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                              • Lionz67
                                Rookie
                                • May 2024
                                • 40

                                #120
                                Re: Undisputed Deluxe WBC Edition Launches Today - Post Your Impressions

                                Originally posted by kingsofthevalley
                                Absolutely, I’m fully aware of the story of the clinch, why it was removed and that it will make a return. However, as far as the weave being addressed, I’ve never heard the devs even “off hand” acknowledge that it was ever a problem. That’s what worries me. Also, I haven’t even heard about it in various comment sections (which is odd as well).
                                I think they took the weave into account with the freeze that your boxer gets every now and then. You know what I mean? I can’t really describe it other than when I’m close and trying to counter/ block and weave, the guy gets kinda stuck on the spot. They are aware of that and I wonder if the weave is part of that fix.

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