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  • Thetruth9012
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 1287

    #106
    Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

    Originally posted by FightNightKing16
    So I've been playing this game religiously since Beta. I like playing ranked until I reach Division 6, I can get there undefeated, however at "top level" it becomes a cheesefest and guys lagging hard to deny and beat me up on the ground when they realize they can not stand with me(which is about 5 seconds into the match).

    So far I've been able to enjoy my online experience meaning that I have enough experience to beat any kind of cheeser, leg kick spammer, lagswitcher, Clinch spammer, you name it I'll beat it.

    However there is a certain style I still get beat on rare ocassion.

    The lagswitcher grappler. This guy would put me into a clinch I would deny his transitions but he would deny my TDs with lag and then counter with an undeniable TD with his lag trick.

    Once I'm on bottom they just stall or rush to mount or SC even if I deny on time their lag allows them to finish their transitions like butter, and hold on SC which turns me off completely about this game just like the backside position.

    They hold me on SC and keep rotating between denying me and going to Crucifix, no matte if I fake, stall, change my timing or what they seem to hold me down and deny until I have no stamina left and finish by this cheesy way when they know that is their only chance.

    I had this sad guy use that Jordan bum guy from Heavyweight and I was Overeem so he started running while popping jabs, I cut the octagon off start whooping his *** and decided to clinch him since he had no stamina left, what a mistake...

    They guy works his SC and Crucifix magic and ends the fight in less than 1 min in the first round, this was my first loss in about two weekends(I only play Saturday evenings, all day Sunday, and all morning Mondays).

    It felt cheap, I did not quit, did not broke any controllers just sat there trying to figure out how did guy is holding down Overeem with his poor stats like nothing.

    I waited for him to finish hugging me, let my stamina replenish only for my fake to be denied, and the same cycle until he finished me.

    What can be done on this situations, against these skilled lagswitch grapplers I do not seem to have any answers.

    I've handled myself against some skilled grapplers without lag and won but these really skilled at SC and Crucifix seem to lock you down and that is it.

    What can I do when these grappling "masters" deny my fakes, my transitions even by following Zhunter's grappling guide such as never been predictable and change up the patterns but nothing seems to work?
    Sounds like you talking about Saintclair chapa lol i have the same experience...

    Sometimes i just cant deny any attempts they dont use any tactic that i wouldnt know just simple transistions... after the fight i see their record like 320-35 ...

    Wysłane z mojego LG-H525n przy użyciu Tapatalka
    Last edited by Thetruth9012; 05-06-2016, 10:44 AM.
    2k18 fixes

    Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

    Late contest on laups matter too much.

    Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

    Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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    • a_guy_in_559
      Rookie
      • May 2016
      • 9

      #107
      Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

      I just want to know how to not suck.
      I'm so ready to just give up on this game... I really want to be good at it and like it, and I've had it since launch... But I just don't understand the mechanics of this game or why things happen the way they do.
      I'm on ps4,I just need some schooling.
      This game is frustrating the hell out of me

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      • Thetruth9012
        MVP
        • Oct 2013
        • 1287

        #108
        Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

        Originally posted by a_guy_in_559
        I just want to know how to not suck.
        I'm so ready to just give up on this game... I really want to be good at it and like it, and I've had it since launch... But I just don't understand the mechanics of this game or why things happen the way they do.
        I'm on ps4,I just need some schooling.
        This game is frustrating the hell out of me
        We can train add me

        Thetruth9012

        Wysłane z mojego LG-H525n przy użyciu Tapatalka
        2k18 fixes

        Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

        Late contest on laups matter too much.

        Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

        Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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        • Tyler_1873
          Banned
          • Apr 2016
          • 149

          #109
          Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

          Originally posted by Chmielu9123
          Sounds like you talking about Saintclair chapa lol i have the same experience...

          Sometimes i just cant deny any attempts they dont use any tactic that i wouldnt know just simple transistions... after the fight i see their record like 320-35 ...

          Wysłane z mojego LG-H525n przy użyciu Tapatalka
          I thought it was common knowledge in the community that SaintClair lives in the rain forest and plays on dial-up.

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          • Marginal0
            Rookie
            • May 2016
            • 30

            #110
            Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

            Is there some move list somewhere that contains all different reversals and transitions and what level enables them? The game offers very little help and has a move list without even mentioning he positions in which to do the takedowns you can buy in career.

            Sometimes the AI does cool transitions and takedowns that I want to do too. Surely it can't be the point to just "find them" yourself?

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            • scyth223
              Rookie
              • Apr 2016
              • 283

              #111
              Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

              Originally posted by Marginal0
              Is there some move list somewhere that contains all different reversals and transitions and what level enables them? The game offers very little help and has a move list without even mentioning he positions in which to do the takedowns you can buy in career.

              Sometimes the AI does cool transitions and takedowns that I want to do too. Surely it can't be the point to just "find them" yourself?
              Some of the guys who have youtube channels on this forum need to jump on this. Some detailed videos covering everything would be great.

              There's stuff that loads of people have missed or don't know about.

              Martial Mind's was good, but i'm looking for stuff more in detail that covers as much as possible.

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              • Marginal0
                Rookie
                • May 2016
                • 30

                #112
                Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                Originally posted by scyth223
                Some of the guys who have youtube channels on this forum need to jump on this. Some detailed videos covering everything would be great.

                There's stuff that loads of people have missed or don't know about.

                Martial Mind's was good, but i'm looking for stuff more in detail that covers as much as possible.
                I've looked but most just cover the basics that I (and people who've played the game for over 30 minutes) already know, given it's listed in the training mode.

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                • chapmandachamp
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 379

                  #113
                  Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                  trying to beat the sub skills challenge (offense) on hard in this current state doable? u have to land all 3 perfectly! any tips or just grind and get lucky/better
                  Last edited by chapmandachamp; 05-12-2016, 06:15 PM. Reason: to correct?

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                  • cernac
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 164

                    #114
                    Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                    #1 Please make available players' moves lists and levels available in some form. Preferably as an app, perhaps as a pdf, and if all else fails a strategy guide for $10. My memory is good, but not good enough to memorize all the players' moves and strengths.

                    #2 "Perks." I hear that some fighters have a flow perk, or heavy hands, etc. Where do I find that information?

                    #3 On the old forums, they used to post four different strategy guides on the front page from the developers and gamechangers covering grappling, striking, MT, etc. Please repost those and keep them at the very top of the forum; they were excellent and should be read by all.

                    The developers and game changers have correctly pointed out how difficult it is to weed through all the negativity and unspecific posts. If you like any or all of the above ideas, please second them in your following posts before moving on to your post. All of the above are easy to implement.

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                    • RyanFitzmagic
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1959

                      #115
                      Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                      How does the mechanic work when you get knocked down and then pounced on? What do I do to make the "Recover" meter fill up faster? It looks like it fills up without me even hitting anything.

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                      • Bigg Cee
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4676

                        #116
                        Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                        Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                        How does the mechanic work when you get knocked down and then pounced on? What do I do to make the "Recover" meter fill up faster? It looks like it fills up without me even hitting anything.
                        Yup very true, you don't even have to touch it and sometimes the meter fills up but not as fast.

                        In my opinion it should not even fill up if you don't move the stick for the input.

                        There's been times I was getting beat down and with lag made it no fun so I just let him KO me and when I get rocked to the floor with good health my meter fills up fast and puts me right back in the game without me even touching controller. lol

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                        • norml
                          curmudgeon
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 331

                          #117
                          Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                          Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                          Yup very true, you don't even have to touch it and sometimes the meter fills up but not as fast.

                          In my opinion it should not even fill up if you don't move the stick for the input.

                          There's been times I was getting beat down and with lag made it no fun so I just let him KO me and when I get rocked to the floor with good health my meter fills up fast and puts me right back in the game without me even touching controller. lol
                          It seems to work better when you just want the fight to be over.
                          "Faith: Not wanting to know what is true." Friedrich Nietzsche

                          PS4- zappaforever

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                          • SUGATA
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1375

                            #118
                            Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                            Questions for those who knows:


                            1) RANKING SYSTEM?
                            - How players are rewarded by RP in ranked modes like Championship
                            - How this system is forcing players to use different fighters and with low OVR?

                            2) Current MATCH UP LIST?
                            GPD gave us this for 1st part:
                            Welcome to EA Forums, where you can chat about games with other players, help each other out, share feedback, and report issues you’re having with EA games.


                            3) STRIKING MECHANIC?
                            - Combo multiplier details? (what resets combo, what strikes and how to perform them to amke a combo? how combo multiplier counting for every follow up strike/coefficient? what defines final damage of the strike?)
                            - Stuns and Full body hit reaction details (FBYH)? (what damage summary causes FBHR? What prons for getting FBHR?)

                            4) Default SUBMISSION and other Grappling moves ATTEMPT DENIAL WINDOWS?
                            GPD gave us this for 1st part:
                            http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/li....page#33390143

                            5) BASE DAMAGE FOR EVERY STRIKE TYPE:
                            GPD gave us this for 1st part:
                            http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/li....page#33637684
                            And my compilation:
                            Welcome to EA Forums, where you can chat about games with other players, help each other out, share feedback, and report issues you’re having with EA games.


                            6) "SECRET"/Hidden MOVES like REVERSALS:
                            - give us full list please
                            7) What reset combo:
                            - any whiff (by sway, dodge, side step, zoning by moving)
                            - block
                            - parry
                            - the same side repeating (left-left)
                            - L1 advanced strike but still getting final combo multiplier
                            - possible to reset combo by quick or any other strike (opponent is getting hit)??

                            What we need to know in striking:

                            - combo coefficient?
                            - what the ammount of damage causes FBHR (full body hit reaction)?
                            - what causes Health events?
                            Example: Bisping 3 strike combo (Jab headm body hook, L1 spin head kick) 99% causes Knockdown with Health event (head) on _100% healthy full stamina opponent_. It is a script or Health event was caused by appropriate ammount of damage?
                            - i am sure that my stamina only causes SPEED slow down of my strikes but not the damage now in EA UFC 2 (i tested, i am on 0% stamina and my 3 hit combo deals FBHR and the same dmg on full stamina opponent).

                            About COUNTER WINDOW (CW) opportunity:
                            CW - in this window if i hit the opponent he will get increased damage which can cause FBHR

                            Successful Parry give us 2 sec CW
                            Successful Dodge, Sway - 3 sec CW
                            Moving and opponent whiffed - 3 sec CW

                            Parry, Dodge, Swat and zoning has as i think already the same dmg bonus.

                            So, DISBALANCE: Parry is the hardest def tool but has shorter CW and the same dmg bonus > need to increase dmg bonus after successful Parry!

                            Am i right that if both fighters are in CW (both make whiffs for ex) then CW dissappear and no dmg bonus then?

                            As i deal a FBHR to opponnent (=Stun) he will push away from me and is able _immediately_ to atcivate his Block........... so what prons for me from dealing FBHR (stun) in the game???



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                            • SisterRay
                              Rookie
                              • May 2016
                              • 289

                              #119
                              Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                              Does anyone know how to do the counter knee bar from standing? Just pulled this but have no idea which position to do it in.

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                              • playerdoss
                                Just started!
                                • May 2016
                                • 3

                                #120
                                Re: Official EA UFC 2 "Teach me how/strategy" thread

                                I have played zhunter who used a move I have not seen before or seen advertised. When I was in his guard he went from left to right and swept me on to half guard top. by swaying left to right. Iassume this is a montentium scissor sweep and how do I perform this thanks in advance.

                                2. ps Why does it say guard when I am in guard oto when i push the stick towards guard nothing happens my character looks like he is trying to sweep but fails the move looks like a scissor sweep

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