1/2 to the body spam

[drinklime]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

To be clear I am a top player (as are several posters in this thread) and even we are saying this must be fixed.

I've fought FtD before and can vouch for his skill. He put up a very good fight for 5 rounds.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

To be clear I am a top player (as are several posters in this thread) and even we are saying this must be fixed.

So uppercuts don't stop 1-2s to the body?

Hooks/overhands don't stop 1-2s to the head?

[Find_the_Door]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

So uppercuts don't stop 1-2s to the body?

Hooks/overhands don't stop 1-2s to the head?

Uppercuts don't unless you throw it prior to the first punch landing. I'm an experienced player with a record of 600-196 with Big Nog. I'm well aware of the mechanics - I'm saying the hit stun aspect is broken in regards to how it handles 1/2s to the body

[Phillyboi207]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

Uppercuts don't unless you throw it prior to the first punch landing. I'm an experienced player with a record of 600-196 with Big Nog. I'm well aware of the mechanics - I'm saying the hit stun aspect is broken in regards to how it handles 1/2s to the body

Huh? The jab only stops the uppercut from coming out if it lands on the first few frames

You should have plenty of times to throw one if you see him dip down for the body shots.

Hooks should always work as well if they're always throwing straights.

Imo the only reason it's OP is because it stops all TDs which is fake. Strikes don't stop TDs. Footwork does

[segap]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

So uppercuts don't stop 1-2s to the body?

Hooks/overhands don't stop 1-2s to the head?

and to the player base that are essentially not boxers ?
We now need to discourage them via boxing ? That will work wonderfully with the athleticism.

What we're asking for is either a change so that people who spam body/head 1-2 show at least some vulnerability to being grappled. As I've said I can side step to avoid them but even with them missing I can't even get a under/over or single clinch.
In this video

https://streamable.com/4whs

The person misses a shot , has a shot parried & Strikes mid ****ing takedown but is still somehow given the chance to sprawl


I'm not sure on my rank but it's definitely top 10 in LW on UT , but I am playing against people who are able to punish you severely because they have no fear of the clinch or takedowns.
Yes they will work on weaker lesser opponents and even the top ranked guys the odd time but the advantage these people have by virtue of being able to deny clinch and takedowns as late as they do is beyond ridiculous

[Find_the_Door]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

Huh? The jab only stops the uppercut from coming out if it lands on the first few frames

You should have plenty of times to throw one if you see him dip down for the body shots.

Hooks should always work as well if they're always throwing straights.

Imo the only reason it's OP is because it stops all TDs which is fake. Strikes don't stop TDs. Footwork does

There's far more wrong with it beyond that. Should be able to hit them right in the temple despite then throwing 1/2 to the body.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

and to the player base that are essentially not boxers ?
We now need to discourage them via boxing ? That will work wonderfully with the athleticism.

What we're asking for is either a change so that people who spam body/head 1-2 show at least some vulnerability to being grappled. As I've said I can side step to avoid them but even with them missing I can't even get a under/over or single clinch.
In this video

https://streamable.com/4whs

The person misses a shot , has a shot parried & Strikes mid ****ing takedown but is still somehow given the chance to sprawl


I'm not sure on my rank but it's definitely top 10 in LW on UT , but I am playing against people who are able to punish you severely because they have no fear of the clinch or takedowns.
Yes they will work on weaker lesser opponents and even the top ranked guys the odd time but the advantage these people have by virtue of being able to deny clinch and takedowns as late as they do is beyond ridiculous

eh, UT is an entirely different beasts that I don't have much experience with so I can't really comment on it.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

There's far more wrong with it beyond that. Should be able to hit them right in the temple despite then throwing 1/2 to the body.

But you can....

Hooks/Overhands on the same side as straights will NOT be interrupted.

If they're going to start the spam then you start leading with hooks/overhands

[Find_the_Door]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

But you can....

Hooks/Overhands on the same side as straights will NOT be interrupted.

If they're going to start the spam then you start leading with hooks/overhands

Mine are interrupted before they land with any power everytime post patch.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

But you can....

Hooks/Overhands on the same side as straights will NOT be interrupted.

If they're going to start the spam then you start leading with hooks/overhands

When you start seein the 1-2 followed by hooks and crazy uppercuts to counter it, that's when you know you have an issue. Then the game turns ugly.

Just my thoughts ppl, nothing more, nothing less...

[Phillyboi207]

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Mine are interrupted before they land with any power everytime post patch.

I find that hard to believe... The info comes from GameplayDev himself

I usually knock people silly with hooks/overhands when they start trying to spam straights.

Any of y'all on Xbox?

I wouldn't mind seeing the body spam in person. Maybe i havent run into someone good enough at it

[Find_the_Door]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

I find that hard to believe... The info comes from GameplayDev himself

I usually knock people silly with hooks/overhands when they start trying to spam straights.

Any of y'all on Xbox?

I wouldn't mind seeing the body spam in person. Maybe i havent run into someone good enough at it

I'm on PS4 and can assure you that is the case. The minute you go to counter they throw an overhand to your dome that because they're "comboing" is much faster than your counter punch and more powerful. Thus it interrupts.


Exploit undoubtedly.

[kenjr86]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

My first fight of the night, this shows the problem with them nerfing neutral clinching positions. I have fought Iron before and know he'll guard his head endlessly. You literally cannot get into the clinch with these players - all you can do is endlessly spam 1/2 to the body as he soley protects his head.


Of course when you do happen to hit his body clean he'll just overhand you to oblivion. Kudos to him for not following up on a rock as he knows I'd keep him down. But look at the 1/2 body spam.


Obviously if I could block I would but I'm simply stuck there standing frozen from the 1/2 body hit stun (which shouldn't exist). There are many missed opportunities on my own behalf here and I'm not disregarding that. I'm posting this to convey fundamental problems with the game.

Thoughts?





Edit: Thanks for the GIF tissues

Im getting really tired of fighting Tyson body spammers. I think the past 10 HW fights in a row were all the same. And Tyson is amazing at BJJ in this game as well somehow. I'm not very good at all in this game but man, hes got an impressive ground success rate in this game.

[JimboSlice]

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Im getting really tired of fighting Tyson body spammers. I think the past 10 HW fights in a row were all the same. And Tyson is amazing at BJJ in this game as well somehow. I'm not very good at all in this game but man, hes got an impressive ground success rate in this game.

What exactly do you mean by "ground success rate?"
Every time ive fought a Tyson user they were finished within 2 mins of being taken down. I dont play 50 fights a day like some guys but i cant see Tysons ground game as much of an issue.

[jabj24]

Re: 1/2 to the body spam

Mine are interrupted before they land with any power everytime post patch.

Mine as well