Martial mind posts combos that abuse hit stun

[Dave_S]

Wasn't he a game changer, someone who should try and get rid of exploits.

What a joke.

[Kenetic NRG]

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I genuinely believe he has good intentions. I think he sees his style as non cheesy when in reality his videos put striking skill level so far behind on PS4.

Saw in a video the other day at him raging at a guy clinching him when he was spamming back dashes and jab bodykicks. Like cmon now, the ONLY way to counter dash spam is clinching. Cage cutting works up until they side step and you can't hit them.

People think my style of aggression is cheesy because I throw long combos. I say watch me play a top player and I'm MUCH more hesitant to throw a 6 or 7 piece because they know how to defend it.

[aholbert32]

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Wasn't he a game changer, someone who should try and get rid of exploits.

What a joke.

Behind the scenes he's very active in trying to remove known exploits and improve the striking in the game. Many of the things that the community is complaining about on OS are things that he's been pretty vocal about removing too.

I cant speak to how he plays because I havent watched many of his videos.

[Dave_S]

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His 10 favorite combos is a lot about hit stuns. He might think he has good intentions, but from my point of view he might as well be posting cheat codes trying to get YouTube views.

The fact he's so proud of them is confusing.

[Josh1735]

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Lmfao hit stun for real? thats what were bitching about now? you want us to just walk to the middle of the cage and mash X and Y until somebody falls? while i understand it can be frustrating there would be no balance. without hit stun fights would literally become a punching duel in the center of the cage where the higher rated fighter wins 95% of the time. certain hitstun needs to be removed like body hook hit stuns but the straight punch opening that martial likes to use? thats the most basic mini hit stun there can be.

seriously quit your bitching

[Dave_S]

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He's not teaching people how to strike. He's teaching certain order of pressing buttons that leaves opponent unable to do anything while the next particular button input is pressed.

Of course their should be hit stuns, but you should not be able to take advantage of them 100 times out of 100by using inputs some gamechanger put on YouTube.

[Josh1735]

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He's not teaching people how to strike. He's teaching certain order of pressing buttons that leaves opponent unable to do anything while the next particular button input is pressed.

Of course their should be hit stuns, but you should not be able to take advantage of them 100 times out of 100by using inputs some gamechanger put on YouTube.

90% of those combos open with the straight which is the one that matter and that is working as intended you wanna know the counter? the jab because if a job hits somebody mid strike it cancels there strike and they get hit stunned. so if your opponent is using these on you do something similar only open with the jab so yours hits first and you win

ive improved most of those combos of my own accord just playing the game and im far from a top player

your gripe is with the straight punch almost always causing hit stun which is working perfectly as intended and the counter is a combo of your own opening with a jab.

again hes teaching people how to strike if you cant beat these combos you suck. my roommate is terrible at the game i knock him out within 2 min of the first round 100% of the times we fight and even he can defend most of these combos just by noticing patterns and blocking appropriately.

if you cant stop it then just hold high block and counter punch then the straight punch isnt a problem anymore is it

"but then he will just body kick me for a hit stun"

which is exactly the ****ing point you jackasses you are supposed to predict where hes gonna hit then block there if you block high and he goes low it should hurt

i think where you people are confused is that there shouldnt be a 100% formula to winning fights. you shouldnt be able to fight every opponent with the exact same strategy and people seem to think they have this perfect strategy down so the second they lose they come to the forums to bitch and complain

[Dave_S]

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You Sir, have a potty mouth.

I like to time strikes and play reactively. If you need cheat codes to win, well that's okay, but imho it's more fun to lose playing original than win using YouTube combos.

[Josh1735]

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it not cheat codes i use my own combos i invented that are better than his also i gave you the counter jab, jab is your friend use jab

also im cursing alot because im sick of all the bitching they have actually done a pretty good job balancing so far

[Dave_S]

Re: Martial mind posts combos that abuse hit stun

it not cheat codes i use my own combos i invented that are better than his also i gave you the counter jab, jab is your friend use jab

also im cursing alot because im sick of all the bitching they have actually done a pretty good job balancing so far

That alone says your opinion is 100% invalid if you think game is balanced. The seemingly random assignment of arm traps is about as unbalanced as it gets.

[Josh1735]

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That alone says your opinion is 100% invalid if you think game is balanced. The seemingly random assignment of arm traps is about as unbalanced as it gets.

arm traps are broken but i said they have done a good job balancing so far, so far meaning there is more to do i didnt say it was 100% perfect i said people are bitching way too much instead of learning to play

[oshighwayman]

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that really illustrates what kind of community we got in this game. I like UFC, I want simulation of UFC not some crazy sci fi half broken game with half cooked mechanics, which only force u to abuse any glitch u find.
people doesn't want fight like UFC, they just need to win all the time and they abuse everything


MM might be great fighter, but as a UFC fan I totally dislike his playing style

[Yaari]

Re: Martial mind posts combos that abuse hit stun

It's quite common that people post their combo's in fighting games. Maybe MM didn't post them for the purpose of showcasing their was issue with them, but he posted them and it highlighted an issue and made the community aware of it.

Now to follow up on that, is there an issue with these strikes. Will you ever need to throw another strike, knowing this combo itself?

If yes, then the real issue is that it is still in the game, and that there's no sight of it being removed at all. Pretty much rendering the remaining hundred strikes, quite useless.

If there's no issue with the combo, then why are we talking about it?


MartialMind highlighted an issue but holds no responsibility for the balance of this game.

that really illustrates what kind of community we got in this game. I like UFC, I want simulation of UFC not some crazy sci fi half broken game with half cooked mechanics, which only force u to abuse any glitch u find.
people doesn't want fight like UFC, they just need to win all the time and they abuse everything


MM might be great fighter, but as a UFC fan I totally dislike his playing style

Welcome to pretty much any competitive game, ever. But a nice way to generalize an entire community I guess.

I still think LEC was a great addition to the game. Because it highlights issues like this, like no other. Once potential rewards are involved, people are willing to go the extra mile to get their win.

I don't blame anyone for playing cheap. A win is a win. Blame the game if you must, but only if there is an legitimate issue. No point to get salty over every loss.

[Supreme_Bananas]

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Some combos may be stupid or unrealistic, but not nearly all of them. straight-lead upper-straight is a beautiful, realistic combo that I use all the time now.

Speaking of unrealistic combos, what else are you supposed to do when:
- the combo multiplier makes single counterstrikes near useless
- the high block is an impenetrable shield
- you can move backward faster than forward, even on low stamina

I think a big step towards real sim-style gameplay would be slowing the game down a lot. Most people throw more strikes in a single round (on an accelerated clock) than real fighters throw in a whole fight. Getting rid of the combo multiplier, decreasing the strength of the block and increasing single strike damage a lot would make slow power hitters like Mark Hunt much more viable

[GitPoopedOn6279]

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You Sir, have a potty mouth.

I like to time strikes and play reactively. If you need cheat codes to win, well that's okay, but imho it's more fun to lose playing original than win using YouTube combos.

"Cheat Codes"?? Him being a game changer and posting tips about striking and countering opponents, this stopping them in their tracks is not a "cheat code".
There are no cheat codes for this game just like there are no strikes or moves that do not have a counter of some sort.
As to your comment saying that him being a game changer and posting cheats on YouTube is like teaching people how to cheat. That is absolutely ridiculous. That is no different than saying that the GamePlayDev posting videos (which he does/has) about countering and defense on the ground is cheating.
Game changers as well as the Dev's are here to teach people how to play effectively and to help people learn that what appears to be a complex game, is actually much easier if you take some time to learn the finer points.
He's not posting how to cheat. He's posting videos on how to win in his opinion. It's not like these videos are private and he's only telling a small portion of people the tricks. They're there for everybody. I have watched plenty of them and I do not play anything like he does. I pick the style that works for me. If he gives a good tip, I will integrate it into my formula but as mentioned above there are many ways to win fights and going into a game with 1 game plan will only let you beat the people who fall for that exact game plan and are not able to change up there game plan if it does not work.
I played a guy who had a style that I could not properly counter or defend against. He beat me pretty decidedly in the first two rounds. Then in the third and final (not a championship fight) round I figured out a new strategy that worked. Unfortunately for me I had already lost two rounds and had to just slug it out until the finish, losing the fight my 29/28 on the score cards. Exactly the outcome I expected.