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  • Haz____
    Omaewa mou shindeiru
    • Apr 2016
    • 4023

    #931
    Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

    My ****ing man Gil Burns just smokin' dudes left and right.
    PSN: Lord__Hazanko

    Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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    • SHADOW_UFCMMA
      Banned
      • Nov 2019
      • 419

      #932
      Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Haz____
      My ****ing man Gil Burns just smokin' dudes left and right.
      Yup... im so glad he moved up. And at the right time. (Just another fun fighter to use in ufc 4 to).

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      • Haz____
        Omaewa mou shindeiru
        • Apr 2016
        • 4023

        #933
        Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by SHADOW_UFCMMA
        Yup... im so glad he moved up. And at the right time. (Just another fun fighter to use in ufc 4 to).
        Man is criminally underated in UFC 3.
        PSN: Lord__Hazanko

        Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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        • IzakB907
          Rookie
          • Oct 2018
          • 49

          #934
          Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

          Sorry if this one is a little long.


          Aleksei Oleinik
          S.Speed: 85 to 82/83
          Accuracy: 88 to 86

          Tai Tuivasa
          S. Stamina: 89 to 86
          Endurance: 88 to 86

          Jan Błachowicz
          S. Speed: 87 to 89
          Power: 86 to 92
          C. Grapple: 85 to 88

          Corey Anderson
          Chin strength: 89 to 86
          Toughness: 89 to 87
          Heart: 89 to 87

          Robert Whittaker
          Toughness: 92
          Heart: 93

          Chris Weidman
          Chin strength: 88 to 86/87

          Luke Rockhold
          Chin strength: 87 to 84/85
          G. Stamina: 92 to 90
          Endurance: 93 to 91
          S. Speed: 95 to 92

          Krzysztof Jotko
          C. Grapple: 85 to 87
          Takedown: 81 to 86/87
          Top game: 85 to 87
          G. Stamina: 86 to 88

          Kelvin Gastelum (MW)
          Toughness: 88 to 92
          Heart: 87 to 92

          Paulo Costa
          S. Stamina: 90 to 88

          Israel Adesanya
          Accuracy: 92 to 94
          S. Speed: 93 to 94
          Submission offense: 81 to 85
          S. Stamina: 90 to 92/93
          Endurance: 89 to 91
          Toughness: 88 to 90
          Heart: 88 to 90

          Tyron Woodley
          T. Defense: 98 to 95/96

          Gilbert Burns
          S. Speed: 87 to 89
          Accuracy: 86 to 88/89
          T. Defense: 82 to 84
          Top game: 88 to 91
          Submission offense: 92 to 94
          S. Stamina: 88 to 90
          Endurance: 87 to 90

          Leonardo Santos
          Power: 84 to 91
          S. Speed: 86 to 88
          Accuracy: 83 to 88

          Anthony Pettis
          T. Defense: 88 to 86
          S. Defense: 95 to 93
          Toughness: 90 to 88
          Heart: 90 to 87

          Kevin Lee
          S. Stamina: 89 to 87
          G. Stamina: 92 to 88

          Claudia Gadelha
          S. Stamina: 89 to 87

          Karolina Kowalkiewicz
          S. Speed: 95 to 92
          Head movement: 93 to 88

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          • SHADOW_UFCMMA
            Banned
            • Nov 2019
            • 419

            #935
            Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

            Give charles olivera crane kick to the head and body.

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            • TheUFCVeteran
              Pro
              • May 2016
              • 878

              #936
              Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by SHADOW_UFCMMA
              Give charles olivera crane kick to the head and body.
              https://forums.operationsports.com/f...thread-77.html

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              • Haz____
                Omaewa mou shindeiru
                • Apr 2016
                • 4023

                #937
                Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                Put some RESPECT on Gil Burns!
                PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                • Haz____
                  Omaewa mou shindeiru
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4023

                  #938
                  Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Haz____
                  My ****ing man Gil Burns just smokin' dudes left and right.

                  PSN: Lord__Hazanko

                  Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                  • IzakB907
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 49

                    #939
                    Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by IzakB907

                    Gilbert Burns
                    S. Speed: 87 to 89
                    Accuracy: 86 to 88/89
                    T. Defense: 82 to 84
                    Top game: 88 to 91
                    Submission offense: 92 to 94
                    S. Stamina: 88 to 90
                    Endurance: 87 to 90
                    Gilbert Burns
                    S. Speed: 87 to 91
                    S. Stamina: 88 to 93
                    Endurance: 87 to 94
                    Power 89 to 92/93
                    H. Movement: 87 to 90/91
                    Blocking: 87 to 91/92
                    Takedown: 86 to 90/91

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                    • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2019
                      • 419

                      #940
                      Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by IzakB907
                      Gilbert Burns
                      S. Speed: 87 to 91
                      S. Stamina: 88 to 93
                      Endurance: 87 to 94
                      Power 89 to 92/93
                      H. Movement: 87 to 90/91
                      Blocking: 87 to 91/92
                      Takedown: 86 to 90/91
                      stamina needs to be 90


                      endurance 91


                      i seen him gas at 170 before trust me, and he kept this fight at his pace. trust me from experience when you keep a fight at your pace you dont get as fatigued.


                      but other then that i agree with you. oh yea his accuracy needs to be buffed a bit.



                      this man Gilburt is going to be fun to use. and i got him against usman if they fight. has better striking, and bjj off his back when it goes to the ground.




                      masvidal seems he wants diaz so Gilbert deserves this fight with usman.





                      i don't want to hear colby vs Gilbert. usman is free rn.

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                      • Kingslayer04
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 1482

                        #941
                        Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                        Tyron Woodley

                        Striking Speed — 94 to 91. Woodley has lost a lot of his explosiveness and his speed is part of that.

                        Power — 97 to 95. Slight reduction. He hasn't suddenly become pillow-fisted, but his punches don't have the same venom in them due to him losing his explosiveness.

                        Blocking — 95 to 92. Burns tagged him clean a bunch of times, dropped him twice. 95 is too high. 92 is a good stat. He doesn't get hit much because people respect his power but that may change soon and then even 92 could be seen as generous.

                        TDD — 98 to 93. 98 is insane and he no longer warrants it. Taken down by both the current champion and an rising up-and-comer, nothing like the TDD shown against Maia for example. We've now seen for a fact he's not untouchable wrestling-wise.

                        Bottom Game — 89 to 87. Nothing off his back against neither Usman nor Burns, apart from a quick explosive get up at one point against Burns. His move levels will probably have that covered though. He's quite helpless off his back. 87 may be harsh as his last two fights were against elite grapplers, but anything above 88 is too much in my opinion.

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                        • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2019
                          • 419

                          #942
                          Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Kingslayer04
                          Tyron Woodley

                          Striking Speed — 94 to 91. Woodley has lost a lot of his explosiveness and his speed is part of that.

                          Power — 97 to 95. Slight reduction. He hasn't suddenly become pillow-fisted, but his punches don't have the same venom in them due to him losing his explosiveness.

                          Blocking — 95 to 92. Burns tagged him clean a bunch of times, dropped him twice. 95 is too high. 92 is a good stat. He doesn't get hit much because people respect his power but that may change soon and then even 92 could be seen as generous.

                          TDD — 98 to 93. 98 is insane and he no longer warrants it. Taken down by both the current champion and an rising up-and-comer, nothing like the TDD shown against Maia for example. We've now seen for a fact he's not untouchable wrestling-wise.

                          Bottom Game — 89 to 87. Nothing off his back against neither Usman nor Burns, apart from a quick explosive get up at one point against Burns. His move levels will probably have that covered though. He's quite helpless off his back. 87 may be harsh as his last two fights were against elite grapplers, but anything above 88 is too much in my opinion.
                          i agree with everything except button game. he does such a good job not taking damage from bottom and not getting submitted. really watch back his fight with usman and Gilbert they couldent land when they were on top of him. yes they landed in the clinch, but not when they where on top of him and on the ground. and how the hell does he not get subbed by Gilbert after getting rocked like that? because hes good at what i just said.oh and hes explosive to get up if he has the chance. the only thing is he has trouble with is transitioning and moving on the ground. like if someone is on top half guard over him he does not know how to get them back into full guard to get back up.

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                          • Kingslayer04
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 1482

                            #943
                            Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by SHADOW_UFCMMA
                            i agree with everything except button game. he does such a good job not taking damage from bottom and not getting submitted. really watch back his fight with usman and Gilbert they couldent land when they were on top of him. yes they landed in the clinch, but not when they where on top of him and on the ground. and how the hell does he not get subbed by Gilbert after getting rocked like that? because hes good at what i just said.oh and hes explosive to get up if he has the chance. the only thing is he has trouble with is transitioning and moving on the ground. like if someone is on top half guard over him he does not know how to get them back into full guard to get back up.
                            That's a nice point. I agree that Woodley does a good job of minimising damage from the bottom.

                            However, the Bottom Game stat affects transition speed from the bottom (someone correct me if I'm wrong). There is a Sub Defence stat for submission defence. Maybe drop it to 88, not an 87 then? But if it is strictly about transition speed 87 is probably good. He is helpless on the ground and the best he can do is not get pummelled.

                            On second thought though, those were elite wrestlers and some leeway is due here. 88 it is.

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                            • SHADOW_UFCMMA
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2019
                              • 419

                              #944
                              Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Kingslayer04
                              That's a nice point. I agree that Woodley does a good job of minimising damage from the bottom.

                              However, the Bottom Game stat affects transition speed from the bottom (someone correct me if I'm wrong). There is a Sub Defence stat for submission defence. Maybe drop it to 88, not an 87 then? But if it is strictly about transition speed 87 is probably good. He is helpless on the ground and the best he can do is not get pummelled.

                              On second thought though, those were elite wrestlers and some leeway is due here. 88 it is.
                              if were talking ea ufc 3 here 100% but id imagine ufc 4 bottom game stat probably has a lot more to do then transition speed. or id like to hope so. guess well wait and see. nonetheless good thinking.

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                              • Kingslayer04
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 1482

                                #945
                                Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

                                Cory Sandhagen

                                As soon as I saw a glimpse of Sandhagen I thought the guy is special, but now I decided to watch three straight fights very closely so I can present my observations here. He is special. This will be a combination of notes, stats and moves based on his fights against Assuncao, Lineker, Bautsita and partially Alcantara.

                                Notes on the Lineker fight (most of these apply to the other 2-3 fights as well):

                                — Dillashaw and Cruz-like stance switching. On the offensive, on the defensive, in motion, all the time, flawlessly.
                                — tremendous footwork, almost never there to be hit. Brilliant evasion.
                                — good in the clinch but gives up his back very easily, got taken down and stood up fast. Still, giving up his back is a common pattern in his game and was evident in the other fights I watched.
                                — however, his scrambling ability is outstanding and got him out of trouble in all those instances. If there was a scrambling stat it should have been 98-ish. Move levels probably cover that. Get ups LVL 4
                                — fantastic head movement and blocking, Cruz style. Never there to be hit clean and if something is in fact going to his head he always has a hand there to block it. If there was a parry stat that would have been very high. Also Philly shells, if that's a thing in UFC 4. However, he gets tagged to the body, that appears to be the easiest target for his opponents to land on. Still, the shots didn't trouble him at all which indicates good Body Health.
                                — elite conditioning. Midway through R3 a stat showed 109/206 sig. strikes landed. That indicates two things: his stamina and his accuracy.
                                — ran into a nasty guillotine off of a TD attempt but weathered it until the end of the round. Only one example of exceptional submission awareness, more on that later. Still, truly impressive.

                                Moves:
                                — Jab LVL 3
                                — Superman punch LVL 1
                                — Rear Front Kick LVL 2
                                — Lead and Rear teeps to the body LVL. 3 and 4, respectively
                                — Lead and Rear flying knees LVL 3
                                — Lead and Rear oblique kicks LVL 2
                                — Cartwheel kick LVL 2 (good execution, just nonchalant, like a lot of his moves)
                                — rear spin to the body LVL 2
                                — Lead body hook LVL 3 + BODY SNATCHER LVL 2
                                — Switch kick to the body LVL 3
                                — Jumping lead teep to the body Lvl 2
                                — Lead elbow LVL 2
                                — Lead and rear body crane kick LVL 3

                                Notes on Assuncao fight

                                My impressions on his attributes were mostly reaffirmed here and will be reflected in my final stats. I'll try to only list new impressions. Note that this is a very good opponent here, so displaying the same level of impressive attributes is remarkable. Also note that Sandhagen is a pressure fighter who sets a very high pace.

                                TDD — taken down via back take again, slammed. Again shows great scrambling and sub. defence to get out of trouble. Very respectable top and bottom game, but the bottom game is slightly better because he's had to use it much more often.

                                — avoided getting leg locked here.

                                Moves:

                                — rear ? kick LVL 1
                                — rear straight to the body LVL 2
                                — rear hook/uppercut to the body LVL 3
                                — Kimura from Sub. Back Clinch LVL 2
                                — Leg Lock from Dom. Full Guard LVL 1
                                — Lead leg kick LVL 2, Rear leg kick LVL 3


                                Notes on Bautista fight


                                — Aldo-esque 1-2-rear leg kick combo
                                — drops him with a lead double knee, reflected in Moves earlier
                                — gives his back again, slammed again, again scrambles, avoids getting triangled, threatens kimura, finishes with armbar. Again, outstanding submission versatility.

                                Iuri Alcantara notes
                                — avoids getting armbarred in an insane manner, proceeds to pound Alcantara out.


                                Verdict (Stats)

                                Striking

                                Striking Speed — 90
                                Power — 88
                                Accuracy — 91
                                Blocking — 92
                                Head Movement — 93
                                Footwork — 95
                                Switch Stance — 98

                                Total — 92

                                Grapple

                                Clinch Throws — 91
                                Clinch Grapple — 91
                                Takedown — 89
                                Takedown Defence — 88
                                Top Game — 91
                                Bottom Game — 93
                                Sub. Offence — 92
                                Sub. Defence — 97

                                Total — 91

                                Fitness

                                Strike Stamina — 92
                                Grapple Stamina — 92
                                Endurance — 90

                                Total — 91

                                Health

                                Chin Strength — 90
                                Body Strength — 91
                                Legs Strength — 90
                                Toughness — 90
                                Heart — 90

                                Total: 92


                                PS: LVL 5 BJJ moves, LVL 4 wrestling moves/reversals; keep in mind those are the ones that are in packs. For the individual moves I've only added what I've seen (to my CAF)


                                Perks:

                                Body Snatcher LVL 2
                                Escape Artist LVL 5
                                To Your Feet LVL 4
                                Marathoner LVL 3
                                Last edited by Kingslayer04; 06-02-2020, 10:17 AM.

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