EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

[Serengeti1]

Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

It's not a hand speed stat, that's what I'm saying, it's a strike speed stat. Like, Michael Johnson has really quick hands, and unremarkable kicks (not slow, not fast), so if you split into 10 points for kicks and 10 points for hands, giving him a 9 or a 10 for hands and a 4 or a 5 for kicks and ending up at 94 since the floor is 80 is totally reasonable. Michael Johnson also only has 4 KOs in 18 UFC fights, I have no problem with 89 power for a dude with a 22% knockout rate in the UFC.

When he's KO'd people... he's done it without GnP. He also lost a ton of those fights so that's not really a fair way of putting the statistic. He does not have below average power in the division. That's straight up lunacy. It's his speed combined with his power is what makes his hands as effective as they are.

MJ does not feel like MJ on the game. That's what matters the most. There are a ton of mistakes here tho. The fact that they do the stats so poorly makes this more difficult to debate too. Cerrone having the same hand speed as MJ on the game makes me want to jump out of a window tho. His hand speed doesn't stand out now because there's a bunch of fast kickers at LW who have a fast speed stat. So frustrating. I say give MJ a perk or anything that will make his hands faster tho.

[aholbert32]

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It's not a hand speed stat, that's what I'm saying, it's a strike speed stat. Like, Michael Johnson has really quick hands, and unremarkable kicks (not slow, not fast), so if you split into 10 points for kicks and 10 points for hands, giving him a 9 or a 10 for hands and a 4 or a 5 for kicks and ending up at 94 since the floor is 80 is totally reasonable. Michael Johnson also only has 4 KOs in 18 UFC fights, I have no problem with 89 power for a dude with a 22% knockout rate in the UFC.

This exact convo took place when we discussed MJ. The stat handicaps us. 94 is very reasonable given that speed governs his kicks and hands.

[Phillyboi207]

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I looked at the .gifs. I've read every post in this thread. Doesnt mean I'm going to agree with you. Doesnt mean the devs (who make the final decision) are going to agree with me.

Can i get some feedback on Black Beast tho? Especially the get up perk

[Serengeti1]

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I looked at the .gifs. I've read every post in this thread. Doesnt mean I'm going to agree with you. Doesnt mean the devs (who make the final decision) are going to agree with me.

I know but if you know what you're looking at... You can see Kelvin's head movement/timing/general boxing fundamentals is quite a rarity in MMA. That would imply he needs a buff in several areas when he is below average.

Overeem's chin is certainly not average btw. He gets rocked even in the fights he wins. He's lost a bunch of fights he was winning because he gets hurt by any relatively flush shot.

I'm kinda done arguing these things tho because it seems to be an impossible task. Seems you have to get through you arguing everything and then the developers on top of that who we have no communication with.

[aholbert32]

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When he's KO'd people... he's done it without GnP. He also lost a ton of those fights so that's not really a fair way of putting the statistic. He does not have below average power in the division. That's straight up lunacy. It's his speed combined with his power is what makes his hands as effective as they are.

MJ does not feel like MJ on the game. That's what matters the most. There are a ton of mistakes here tho. The fact that they do the stats so poorly makes this more difficult to debate too. Cerrone having the same hand speed as MJ on the game makes me want to jump out of a window tho. His hand speed doesn't stand out now because there's a bunch of fast kickers at LW who have a fast speed stat. So frustrating. I say give MJ a perk or anything that will make his hands faster tho.

A couple of points:

- MJ has an 89. With the exception of Chad Laprise and Melendez, there isnt a single person that currently has a higher power rating than MJ...that shouldnt.

- You overrate MJ. I've played with him online alot. I think he feels EXACTLY as he should. He is fast (94 equals fast). His footwork is good (91) and his chin is suspect.

- Saying there are a "ton" of mistakes is laughable. There are 5,390 stats in the game (240 fighters x 22 categories). The fact that majority of people in this thread are arguing about 1-2 point differences actually shows that the stats arent far off.

Not to say there arent mistakes. I shouldve taken a close look at HW because things like Overeem's and Rothwell's chin is off. We overrated Belfort. Matt Brown is probably underrated.

With that said, lets not exaggerate. There arent a ton of issues with the actual stats. Now if we are talking about stat categories...you have a point.

[aholbert32]

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I know but if you know what you're looking at... You can see Kelvin's head movement/timing/general boxing fundamentals is quite a rarity in MMA. That would imply he needs a buff in several areas when he is below average.

Overeem's chin is certainly not average btw. He gets rocked even in the fights he wins. He's lost a bunch of fights he was winning because he gets hurt by any relatively flush shot.

I'm kinda done arguing these things tho because it seems to be an impossible task. Seems you have to get through you arguing everything and then the developers on top of that who we have no communication with.

Come on man.

I disagree with you. I told you why i disagree with you. Thats fine. All I do is say "Dev, what do you think about giving fighter X a 90 up from an 88 in power?" I present why it should happen and the dev says yes or no. They disagree with me all the time.

There are changes that are coming that have NOTHING to do with me. Some that came from this thread where I disagreed with the person.

Take Nugget. I disagree with some of his suggested Karolina nerfs. He presented a great argument and I disagreed with parts of it. It doesnt mean that his suggestions wont happen. It just means I disagreed. I dont have any pull nor would I want to prevent his suggested changes. So if the devs decide to do it, it will have nothing to do with me and vice versa.

The difference is he can agree to disagree and move on. You obviously cant. Not everyone is going to agree with you man. That doesnt mean that you cant participate in this thread.

[aholbert32]

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Can i get some feedback on Black Beast tho? Especially the get up perk

I think thats a good idea. The problem is I dont have direct access to the dev who controls the perks. I can pass it along though.

[Phillyboi207]

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Derrick Lewis deserves gamechanger level 3 or 4.

His overhand is ridiculous

He also deserves “to your feet” level 3 or 4.

His ability to get up is amazing. Dude just stands up when he feels like it and is done resting on his back. Being able to just get up against a grappler like Roy Nelson is no joke.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comment...D3&sh=5622936c

Max Holloway also deserves at least 95 striking stamina. Fights at an insane pace and does not get tired at all

Garbrandy deserves untouchable level 4. His head movement is ridiculous. I know he just got KO’d but it happens against an opp like TJ

Posting again so you wont have to search for it

And honestly Derrick Lewis stamina should be about 3 points lower in both grappling/striking. But have power upped by 2 or 3

Dude gasses hard all the time

[Serengeti1]

Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

A couple of points:

- MJ has an 89. With the exception of Chad Laprise and Melendez, there isnt a single person that currently has a higher power rating than MJ...that shouldnt.

- You overrate MJ. I've played with him online alot. I think he feels EXACTLY as he should. He is fast (94 equals fast). His footwork is good (91) and his chin is suspect.

- Saying there are a "ton" of mistakes is laughable. There are 5,390 stats in the game (240 fighters x 22 categories). The fact that majority of people in this thread are arguing about 1-2 point differences actually shows that the stats arent far off.

Not to say there arent mistakes. I shouldve taken a close look at HW because things like Overeem's and Rothwell's chin is off. We overrated Belfort. Matt Brown is probably underrated.

With that said, lets not exaggerate. There arent a ton of issues with the actual stats. Now if we are talking about stat categories...you have a point.

That's your opinion. Iaquinta has a 3 point advantage over MJ. 3 points is at least within reason but I don't agree with it. Gaethje has a 5 point power advantage. He has hard leg kicks. Otherwise I wouldn't say he hits nearly that harder than MJ. He beats guys by overwhelming them primarily. That's how his stoppages come. Honestly, I could go through the whole roster but I don't want to because it's annoying me.

The fact that stats are not separated is what's causing most of these mistakes.

Also, 1-3 point stat differences matter when all the stats are so close. Most are within like 5 points

The difference is he can agree to disagree and move on. You obviously cant. Not everyone is going to agree with you man. That doesnt mean that you cant participate in this thread.

Hey... Don't attack my character. lol. I admit I'm getting too invested but it's frustrating when you're passionate about MMA and the game being right and everything you say is argued by two people at once. Even little things like the word 'starched" (shoutout Nugget lol).

The fact that a significant flaw of the game is being used as a defence is also annoying (stats being merged). That said, it's very relevant and it's neither of your faults.

While that's how it is.... arguing power and speed stats seems relatively pointless as it increases the subjectivity of it even more. Also just looks like we're gonna have to settle with the issues it causes with the game.

[Nugget7211]

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Even little things like the word 'starched" (shoutout Nugget lol)

I just think starched was poor word choice haha

[aholbert32]

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Hey... Don't attack my character. lol. I admit I'm getting too invested but it's frustrating when you're passionate about MMA and the game being right and everything you say is argued by two people at once. Even little things like the word 'starched" (shoutout Nugget lol).

The fact that a significant flaw of the game is being used as a defence is also annoying (stats being merged). That said, it's very relevant and it's neither of your faults.

While that's how it is.... arguing power and speed stats seems relatively pointless as it increases the subjectivity of it even more. Also just looks like we're gonna have to settle with the issues it causes with the game.

I understand you being annoyed. I've been annoyed about the merged stats for over a year. All you can do is play with the cards that you are dealt though. The stat categories are what they are.

Take Pettis. The GCs and the Devs didnt know what to do with him because he has really fast and powerful kicks but not punches. So we had to find a middle ground. It sucked but its the best we could do.

[Serengeti1]

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Tecia Torres' overall striking stat is very surprisingly low. It's 86. She's outstruck everyone she's fought. And even when Rose beat her in the second fight it was close... Rose edged it out with her grappling. She also pretty handily outstruck Waterson who has better striking stats as well.

Tecia should be much faster (she's a little hurricane) and have better footwork.

I understand she hasn't knocked anyone out but neither have many 115 female fighters. An 81 power stat is over the top. Especially when she comes from a taekwondo background and has pretty powerful kicks. Her speed should stand out in particular though.

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Go to 1:40 to see her drop Rose.

She also fought Rose in southpaw the second time and had a lot of success so her switch stance stat should be more than 83. It was a very close fight but the grappling gave Rose the edge as I said above.

Hoping she can get some decent buffs because it'd add some nice depth to the division to get a small, fast, solid striker like her with decent stats.

[Papadoc60]

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He shouldn’t be because his chin is average.


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Thank you!!! Everyone saying Reem has a glass chin, go look at the Mark Hunt fight recently. He took some bombs from the super samoan and kept on coming. That's a very recent example of his at least average chin.

[Phillyboi207]

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Thank you!!! Everyone saying Reem has a glass chin, go look at the Mark Hunt fight recently. He took some bombs from the super samoan and kept on coming. That's a very recent example of his at least average chin.

Maybe I have to rewatch it but i remember him clinching everytime he got hit.

[Papadoc60]

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I think Darren Elkins stats are a bit too low. He is now the #9 ranked featherweight, and just finished Mirsad Bektic ( also underrated in this game ) and Michael Johnson. Now, I know he's not a killer on the feet or anything and is a grinding type of fighter, but I think he deserves just a meager boost in striking stats. His grappling and stamina seems fine to me.

His chin is only 85! He has one of the best chins in the division and is known for employing the homer simpson defense with great success. I also think maybe he should get some sort of cardio perk like a level 1 or 2 higher altitude.


1. Small striking boost, maybe to blocking/power. His striking stats are just so bad.
2. Raise chin stat
3. Cardio Perk, level 1 or 2 higher altitude

Let me know if you guys agree at all please