EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

[Serengeti1]

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Some of Woodley's stats need changing.

He has an accuracy rating of 90. Thompson has an accuracy rating of 97.

FightMetric says Woodley is the more accurate striker -

http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/4a28cb716c19157a

http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/effd9de9937996f8

I would understand if you'd want to keep Thompson's stat ahead because of his martial arts background and because he's a fan favourite but this is MMA. Woodley has a better striking accuracy. Please at least buff it by several points. Not only the stats show how good his accuracy can be... So do his fights. He doesn't throw much but when he does... He often hits you.

Woodley's overall striking rating is lower or equal to about 10 fighters in the division so I don't think a buff would hurt balancing.

His leg kick is also only a level 3. I found this out the hard way after hitting GSP with about 100 leg kicks before I got a health event. He's known for having one of the most powerful leg kicks in the UFC. It should at least be a level 4.

Granted Condit's other leg was injured before this... but you can see the power in this kick...



The most important thing to change is his accuracy rating tho. I'd suggest a stat of 95. Leaving him two points behind Thompson.

[Nugget7211]

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Some of Woodley's stats need changing.

He has an accuracy rating of 90. Thompson has an accuracy rating of 97.

FightMetric says Woodley is the more accurate striker -

http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/4a28cb716c19157a

http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/effd9de9937996f8

I would understand if you'd want to keep Thompson's stat ahead because of his martial arts background and because he's a fan favourite but this is MMA. Woodley has a better striking accuracy. Please at least buff it by several points. Not only the stats show how good his accuracy can be... So do his fights. He doesn't throw much but when he does... He often hits you.

Woodley's overall striking rating is lower or equal to about 10 fighters in the division so I don't think a buff would hurt balancing.

His leg kick is also only a level 3. I found this out the hard way after hitting GSP with about 100 leg kicks before I got a health event. He's known for having one of the most powerful leg kicks in the UFC. It should at least be a level 4.

Granted Condit's other leg was injured before this... but you can see the power in this kick...



The most important thing to change is his accuracy rating tho. I'd suggest a stat of 95. Leaving him two points behind Thompson.

Those fightmetric percentages include ground and pound and clinch strikes, you need to go into actual fights and look at significant distance strikes which is everything but jabs on the feet to get a good idea of actual accuracy as it relates to purely stand up striking which is what the stat governs in UFC 3, like for Woodley's last 4 fights he's landed 33% of his distance strikes, which is average for the UFC.

[Serengeti1]

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Those fightmetric percentages include ground and pound and clinch strikes, you need to go into actual fights and look at significant distance strikes which is everything but jabs on the feet to get a good idea of actual accuracy as it relates to purely stand up striking which is what the stat governs in UFC 3, like for Woodley's last 4 fights he's landed 33% of his distance strikes, which is average for the UFC.

Link to these statistics?

[Nugget7211]

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Link to these statistics?

http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-details/30553d630491094a

That's for the Maia fight, under the significant strike banner where it gives you the breakdown of targets and range, it'll give you the landed and attempted numbers for distance, you have to do the percentages yourself though, 36.8% for that fight, if you're curious.

[Serengeti1]

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http://www.fightmetric.com/fight-det...553d630491094a

That's for the Maia fight, under the significant strike banner where it gives you the breakdown of targets and range, it'll give you the landed and attempted numbers for distance, you have to do the percentages yourself though, 36.8% for that fight, if you're curious.

It says Thompson landed 52 of 144 and Woodley landed 30 of 92 in their second fight.

I've forgotten how to work out the percentage of something and I can't be bothered to work it out so I'm going to give it a miss lol. But their percentages are roughly the same there. Wouldn't imply a huge 7 point difference anyway.

I'm not going to go through all the stats so I'll have to take your word for it that his average in his last 3 fights was the UFC's average. However, I still think his accuracy deserves a buff. He was hitting Kelvin Gastelum nicely who is a guy who has some very nice boxing (his stats also need buffing... Probably more so than Woodley's).

I'm going to drop this Woodley thing for a second because Kelvin needs a buff much more..

Kelvin has KO'd Bisping, Vitor, Kennedy, and knocked down Weidman. All of those guys have better striking stats than him (Tim isn't in the game tho).

His power is only 89 which is below average in the game. That definitely should be changed. His accuracy is also what gets him those KO's (which is 91). So maybe buff them both by a couple of points. His head movement stat is only 89 and he utilises head movement much better than most fighters. Should be buffed quite a bit.





His blocking is 89 and footwork is 90. His footwork stat should be buffed as he's very good with distance management. Just a small buff needed for now. I can't speak on the blocking as it's kind of a weird stat in general and I'm not sure how they work it out.

Kelvin might be a small MW... but his striking is extremely legit as he's shown. Even for that division.

[Nugget7211]

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It says Thompson landed 52 of 144 and Woodley landed 30 of 92 in their second fight.

I've forgotten how to work out the percentage of something and I can't be bothered to work it out so I'm going to give it a miss lol. But their percentages are roughly the same there. Wouldn't imply a huge 7 point difference anyway.

I'm not going to go through all the stats so I'll have to take your word for it that his average in his last 3 fights was the UFC's average. However, I still think his accuracy deserves a buff. He was hitting Kelvin Gastelum nicely who is a guy who has some very nice boxing (his stats also need buffing... Probably more so than Woodley's).

I'm going to drop this Woodley thing for a second because Kelvin needs a buff much more..

Kelvin has KO'd Bisping, Vitor, Kennedy, and knocked down Weidman. All of those guys have better striking stats than him (Tim isn't in the game tho).

His power is only 89 which is below average in the game. That definitely should be changed. His accuracy is also what gets him those KO's (which is 91). So maybe buff them both by a couple of points. His head movement stat is only 89 and he utilises head movement much better than most fighters. Should be buffed quite a bit.





His blocking is 89 and footwork is 90. His footwork stat should be buffed as he's very good with distance management. Just a small buff needed for now. I can't speak on the blocking as it's kind of a weird stat in general and I'm not sure how they work it out.

Kelvin might be a small MW... but his striking is extremely legit as he's shown. Even for that division.

I hate that Weidman clip, that's like 4 seconds after Weidman got eye poked or a knuckle in the eye, dude had no depth perception when that happened, although I do agree Gastelum needs a buff, even if I think he's pretty ****ed against anyone ranked above him and that his wins at MW aren't that great tbh.

And their percentages are only similar when they're fighting each other, Woodley's stays about the same whereas Wonderboy goes up to 40-45% against anyone else, a 7 point difference is fine IMO

[Serengeti1]

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I hate that Weidman clip, that's like 4 seconds after Weidman got eye poked or a knuckle in the eye, dude had no depth perception when that happened, although I do agree Gastelum needs a buff, even if I think he's pretty ****ed against anyone ranked above him and that his wins at MW aren't that great tbh.

And their percentages are only similar when they're fighting each other, Woodley's stays about the same whereas Wonderboy goes up to 40-45% against anyone else, a 7 point difference is fine IMO

I mean he also knocked Weidman down too. I firmly believe his striking is among the best at MW. I can see him outstriking Brunson, Romero, Rockhold, and even Whittaker. Whether he would or not is another thing. I just think he's fully capable of doing so. Rockhold is susceptible to boxing pressure. Kelvin likes that. Romero isn't a fundamentally good striker so anyone who is has a solid shot at him. I think Kelvin would do what Whittaker did to Brunson on the feet. Whittaker would be the toughest fight striking wise for Kelvin. Do I think Kelvin would beat all these guys? Nah. But he could outstrike them. I think he'd beat some of them too.

[aholbert32]

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There is a flipside to the Kelvin needs a power buff argument:

He KO'd a Bisping who had been in a brutal championship fight 3 weeks early.
He KO'd a Belfort who is shot and had been KO'd in 3 of his last 4 fights.
He KO'd a Kennedy who was coming off of a KO loss and hadnt fought in 2 yrs.

I think his power is a bit overrated because of it.

If anything looking at these stats, I would like to lower Belfort a bunch but it appears that the team doesnt have that much flexibility when it comes to his numbers because of UFC approval.

[IMUHBOXER]

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I've never seen Tyron stamina instantly deplete round one with his 89 stamina stat. As the current champion he seems to have no problem with stamina in real life holding the undisputed WW title.

But he has a subs stamina problem in game. Seems like it should be on par with Wonderboy or a notch better since we saw the two go head to head for 10 rounds. And Woodley best him.

[Nugget7211]

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I mean he also knocked Weidman down too. I firmly believe his striking is among the best at MW. I can see him outstriking Brunson, Romero, Rockhold, and even Whittaker. Whether he would or not is another thing. I just think he's fully capable of doing so. Rockhold is susceptible to boxing pressure. Kelvin likes that. Romero isn't a fundamentally good striker so anyone who is has a solid shot at him. I think Kelvin would do what Whittaker did to Brunson on the feet. Whittaker would be the toughest fight striking wise for Kelvin. Do I think Kelvin would beat all these guys? Nah. But he could outstrike them. I think he'd beat some of them too.

I think Whittaker's a better striker (although you can argue that, I just think Whittaker has beaten better opposition) and everyone else above him (Romero, Rockhold, Jacaré and Weidman) would out grapple him pretty easily. Also, what fight shows Rockhold's susceptibility to boxing pressure? Because Bisping let Rockhold come after him when he beat him, Branch ran into the clinch with punches and only landed a single clean combination that didn't hurt Rockhold at all really. Like, I don't think Rockhold is a defensive mastermind or anything, but I don't think he falls apart under pressure like JDS or Pettis either.

And to be clear, I wasn't saying he's a worse striker than Weidman, it's just that one specific clip of that fight bothers me.

[IMUHBOXER]

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Overrem should have a glass chin. He's the goto pick of the HW division. Not realistic.

[Serengeti1]

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There is a flipside to the Kelvin needs a power buff argument:

He KO'd a Bisping who had been in a brutal championship fight 3 weeks early.
He KO'd a Belfort who is shot and had been KO'd in 3 of his last 4 fights.
He KO'd a Kennedy who was coming off of a KO loss and hadnt fought in 2 yrs.

I think his power is a bit overrated because of it.

If anything looking at these stats, I would like to lower Belfort a bunch but it appears that the team doesnt have that much flexibility when it comes to his numbers because of UFC approval.

I don't know who his power is overrated by. I personally don't think he's an extreme powerhouse or anything but it should be above average for the division based on what we've seen. It's currently below average. Every time he's KO'd someone he's starched them too. I think like a 91 or 92 stat would suffice. With Kelvin it's more accuracy and timing but he does have power too. Near enough all his striking stats need buffing at least slightly as I stated above though. It's not just about power. I think what I've suggested is reasonable.

He'd beat Bisping anyway imo but that excuse has relevance I guess. But we should be careful when using excuses like that. You can use them in basically any scenario.

[Nugget7211]

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He'd beat Bisping anyway imo but that excuse has relevance I guess. But we should be careful when using excuses like that. You can use them in basically any scenario.

I'd agree with you if the excuse was a weight cut or something, because that's opening a whole can of worms for a bunch of fights, but "got dropped and choked out in a title fight 3 weeks ago" isn't going to come up ever. Especially since it was within his medical suspension as well.

[Serengeti1]

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I think Whittaker's a better striker (although you can argue that, I just think Whittaker has beaten better opposition) and everyone else above him (Romero, Rockhold, Jacaré and Weidman) would out grapple him pretty easily. Also, what fight shows Rockhold's susceptibility to boxing pressure? Because Bisping let Rockhold come after him when he beat him, Branch ran into the clinch with punches and only landed a single clean combination that didn't hurt Rockhold at all really. Like, I don't think Rockhold is a defensive mastermind or anything, but I don't think he falls apart under pressure like JDS or Pettis either.

And to be clear, I wasn't saying he's a worse striker than Weidman, it's just that one specific clip of that fight bothers me.

This isn't about grappling. It's about striking. Sure, they'd most likely all out-grapple him.

Rockhold has a nice check hook but once you're past that he's pretty lost. You've got to try and overwhelm him.

Branch didn't run into the clinch. Rockhold clinched him because he was hurt and couldn't deal with the boxing pressure. He also attempted to awkwardly move his head with his hands down while getting lit up lol. Either way, we're getting off topic.

[Nugget7211]

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This isn't about grappling. It's about striking. Sure, they'd most likely all out-grapple him.

Rockhold has a nice check hook but once you're past that he's pretty lost. You've got to try and overwhelm him.

Branch didn't run into the clinch. Rockhold clinched him because he was hurt and couldn't deal with the boxing pressure. He also attempted to awkwardly move his head with his hands down while getting lit up lol. Either way, we're getting off topic.

I'd argue that standing so close to the dude you're hitting that he can reach out and grab double collar ties is running into the clinch, I never said Branch initiated the clinch. And you made it about striking after I said I think Kelvin would lose to the people above him, so you changed the topic first :P